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BNY10
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posted August 17, 2015 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BNY10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like to know more about astral travel. I know someone who astral travels, and he says he has sex with people in the physical realm. I am curious to know what he means? How is astral sex different from real sex? Does he actually penetrate the person? Or is it a mind thing? And how come the person he is having sex with doesn't feel the orgasm? And can someone tell me about the effect of him continuously having sex with the same person? How is that person's energy changed?

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PixieJane
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posted August 17, 2015 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It might do well to define astral sex (including your friend). I've noticed that many who talk about "astral sex" actually mean in their dreams (presumably shared with the other) or they "feel a connection" while masturbating.

As for the lore I've read on it astral sex is supposed to be between two astral bodies, not just one being astral. I have read of people having sex with tulpas (sometimes called thought forms or elementals) which are essentially "astral robots" (astral bodies but rather than as a vehicle for astral travel they're "programmed" so are astral bodies that can act independent of their creators) created by the user (though they can be imbued by the subconscious which can make them dangerous as well as very hedonistic and even pervy) and sex with them is supposed to "feel like rubber" (I guess like a blow up doll).

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posted August 17, 2015 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BNY10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
It might do well to define astral sex (including your friend). I've noticed that many who talk about "astral sex" actually mean in their dreams (presumably shared with the other) or they "feel a connection" while masturbating.

As for the lore I've read on it astral sex is supposed to be between two astral bodies, not just one being astral. I have read of people having sex with tulpas (sometimes called thought forms or elementals) which are essentially "astral robots" (astral bodies but rather than as a vehicle for astral travel they're "programmed" so are astral bodies that can act independent of their creators) created by the user (though they can be imbued by the subconscious which can make them dangerous as well as very hedonistic and even pervy) and sex with them is supposed to "feel like rubber" (I guess like a blow up doll).


Thanks for replying. I am not sure if I understand what you wrote.
Ok, so about the dream part, I think I understand. They would send you a dream telepathically, and you have "mind sex.'
As for masturbation, how do they connect to the other person? Do you mean that if someone who astrally travels masturbates, the other person feels it? How do they feel it?
As for the robot, what does the creator get from sending a robot to have sex with an unsuspecting person? So do these robots have penetrative sex? I am not really understanding the robot?

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posted August 17, 2015 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BNY10:
Thanks for replying. I am not sure if I understand what you wrote.
Ok, so about the dream part, I think I understand. They would send you a dream telepathically, and you have "mind sex.'
As for masturbation, how do they connect to the other person? Do you mean that if someone who astrally travels masturbates, the other person feels it? How do they feel it?

First understand that I learned of the occult that was fairly traditional in many ways and that affects my paradigm. The occult (and a lot of religion for that matter) deal with esoteric matters that are hard to describe in words, and sometimes concepts are even called "the mysteries" because they can't be explained, only experienced. (Heck, many psychedelics are like that. )

Given the occult paradigm (and how I define things like astral bodies and travel) I have I don't believe that "shared dreams" or "masturbation" involve astral sex at all. It's probably just intensely felt so it seems real (though it may be mutual, by coincidence) and if it IS paranormal then it's telepathic (mind to mind) rather than astral travel. Others define astral travel and sex very differently from me however which is why you need to ask. Your acquaintance may have a completely different idea of "astral sex" than I do or anyone else for that matter.

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posted August 17, 2015 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BNY10:
As for the robot, what does the creator get from sending a robot to have sex with an unsuspecting person? So do these robots have penetrative sex? I am not really understanding the robot?

I didn't say people made tulpas to have sex with other people.

What I said is what it felt like to have sex with a tulpa, which is essentially an astral body (more complicated than that but I'm going to keep it simple). If that's how it feels having sex with a tulpa then I speculated that's probably what it feels like having sex with an astral body, from the perspective of someone in their physical body as you described.

Astral bodies, in my paradigm, are created as vehicles by projecting astral material through a silver cord to create an astral body in which the astral traveler then projects their consciousness into (effectively switching consciousness from the physical to the astral). Tulpas and elementals are also astral bodies created (though they can tap other sources, not just one's own astral energy/material), but not as a vehicle for conscious astral travel but instead to carry out a mission or otherwise be useful, typically meant to do as the creator intends (like a familiar or ally spirit). In essence the astral construct is given orders, much like a robot, and many view them as subsentient. Comparing them to robots isn't a perfect match as robots must have things like "decision trees" with specific software in the correct hardware but it's much more of an art than a science to create astral constructs as tulpas in which one shapes what they desire through sheer will. (I'm leaving out a lot, I can't explain every little detail about it anymore than I can explain every little detail about robotics.)

When tulpas are created for sex then it's for the creator. However, even when not created for sex they can come to seek out sex on their own, either of their creator or with others (possibly those the creator is attracted to so that the tulpa becomes something like the Id of the creator, acting on the subconscious desires the creator suppresses). This is generally thought to be because the subconscious of the creator is automatically imbued into the tulpa and as a tulpa becomes more independent (apparently they can learn and adapt) then they start acting more on those subconscious impulses it's imbued with than their master's commands, and can become dangerous enough to need to be destroyed (typically by assimilation back into the components it was shaped from, including the astral material of the creator).

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posted August 17, 2015 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BNY10:
have sex with an unsuspecting person

Btw, if someone said they were doing this I'd stay away from them, whether or not I believed them. This is not a nice person or someone to trust.

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Randall
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posted August 18, 2015 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, astral creepy.

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Ra
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posted August 19, 2015 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very good explanations PixieJane.

Astral sex has nothing to do with "penetration" in the physical sense. It is completely different.

I'm not sure what this person you know is doing, but it sounds intrusive and perhaps immoral. Are we reading that wrong?

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posted August 20, 2015 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ra:
Very good explanations PixieJane.

Astral sex has nothing to do with "penetration" in the physical sense. It is completely different.

I'm not sure what this person you know is doing, but it sounds intrusive and perhaps immoral. Are we reading that wrong?


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Randall
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posted August 21, 2015 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Disturbing to think of this.

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