posted February 05, 2016 12:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
FEAR: False Expectations Appearing Real

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posted February 09, 2016 01:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Valentine:
I like this.

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posted February 09, 2016 03:33 PM            

To do 'good' and be 'altruistic' implies a lessening of the self-ego or to be selfless in a sense. That there be some level of understanding whether consciously or unconsciously that each individual is the same god-essence with no greater or no lesser though the parts they play on the stage of life be different. Without a self-ego, one no longer takes oneself seriously and therefore considers more things to be blessings than curses. You can then see how it may not actually be the events of their lives that are rewarding them with Karma but only that they consciously focus on the good events and don't let the bad ones affect them per se.

To believe in negative Karma however must include the belief of reincarnation, again whether believed in consciously or unconsciously. As souls evolve through their experiences incarnating on earth, our guides and higher essence are our teachers and just like every teacher, they aren't too happy when they know that we did something we 'knew' we shouldn't - not because it's bad in a sense, but because it doesn't work - it doesn't alleviate what really hurts us, it's more like an escape from dealing with the issues we really wanted to deal with. Thus, over many lifetimes, we 'know' that there will be a review of our deeds though when we are incarnating on earth, we don't know where from so we just assume it's under some kind of higher power that rewards and punishes, or natural law of consequences.

posted February 14, 2016 05:32 PM            

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Originally posted by SDragon:
My understanding on the topic follows the line of thought that:

To do 'good' and be 'altruistic' implies a lessening of the self-ego or to be selfless in a sense. That there be some level of understanding whether consciously or unconsciously that each individual is the same god-essence with no greater or no lesser though the parts they play on the stage of life be different. Without a self-ego, one no longer takes oneself seriously and therefore considers more things to be blessings than curses. You can then see how it may not actually be the events of their lives that are rewarding them with Karma but only that they consciously focus on the good events and don't let the bad ones affect them per se.

To believe in negative Karma however must include the belief of reincarnation, again whether believed in consciously or unconsciously. As souls evolve through their experiences incarnating on earth, our guides and higher essence are our teachers and just like every teacher, they aren't too happy when they know that we did something we 'knew' we shouldn't - not because it's bad in a sense, but because it doesn't work - it doesn't alleviate what really hurts us, it's more like an escape from dealing with the issues we really wanted to deal with. Thus, over many lifetimes, we 'know' that there will be a review of our deeds though when we are incarnating on earth, we don't know where from so we just assume it's under some kind of higher power that rewards and punishes, or natural law of consequences.

With these underlying beliefs in the subconscious, we then let them create the experiences we expect. Not really co-creating with our mind we feel we are at whim to the external world and not 100% responsible for what happens. The mind is great for analyzing details but I find when it relates to Karma, the heart is the organ that truly 'knows' why things happened for the soul's growth.

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posted February 18, 2016 06:17 PM            

Great all-around comments too.... I've been back here two or three times now, and there's so much food for thought. Always go away seeing things from another viewpoint and the shifts inside are amazing.
(Thanks folks!)

One of the things that has bothered me about the concept of Karma has been victim-blaming and a kind of sick perpetuating voyeurism. Like a Bullying spirit.

If you have the ability to help someone out of a pit, and you always leave them there, then what kind of 'cookies' will be released onto the shelf-plate of those voyeurs at the end of life?

P.J. .... I've seen the kind of thing you're talking about. I've been in trauma-groups too. Some of those broken-hurt souls can lay such selfish VENGEANCE on someone else who had wounding too. "Hurt people, hurt people" {quote, Joyce Meyer, a survivor of sexual abuse}

Actually for me, I've found out 'after the fact' many times, that GOD incurred punishment on some who had harmed me in the deepest and most-wickedly conscious way. And the consequences were breathtaking to me... I wouldn't have expected such harsh penalty... but then GOD knows what's in that person's heart. So it's better that I turn my head and don't interfere.

I mean, God deals with ME all the time, in my natural-state with natural mistakes... And to my credit, I have a teachable-spirit, so He knows He has FULL permission to 'show' me what I need to see about my own self. I'm into Growing. He's into me having better esteem too... I 'feel' that He bucks me there when I don't see my own self at the level He wants me to be.

I've really KNOWN how ~God/etc~ (haha) can test others by your life, too. P.J., you don't realize the amount of 'good' you've left in your wake. You find that out through accretion later down the line. Sometimes it's obvious, then over the long-haul, you can SEE how 'strong' your effect was, and what GOD did through you.

(Of course, translate the pronouns I use. I have a consecrated life, and so I relate to the male-pronoun, but I also know how 'nourishing and feminine' the energy of GOD is, too. (Sometimes I capitalize GOD to mean the All-Knowing All-Inclusive... uses less letters! LOL ..)