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Novabronte
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posted September 28, 2016 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ann7:
I haven't read all the way through so I apologize if someone already mentioned this. As a reader, I cannot necessarily pick up on every thought a person has but I read their energy. This is second nature. A lot of times things will come without me trying or even wanting to pick them up. So it's not really a matter of being purposely invasive.

I've yet to meet anyone that has the ability to literally read another persons every thought so it's not something I would stress over.


Just an observation - were not talking about reading energy, which is different. We were discussing reading thoughts.
This is clairsentience vs telepathy....different ability

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posted September 28, 2016 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Novabronte:
Just an observation - were not talking about reading energy, which is different. We were discussing reading thoughts.
This is clairsentience vs telepathy....different ability

Well I agree with something a few others have said, its the energy in the ethers and sometimes its not on purpose if other people can read your energy. Once we evolve a bit more in maybe in 20 000 years its going to be similar to being at a public pool (your telepathy) and able to see the others playing.

@Ayelet

If he's really putting in a lot of extra effort to try to "absorb your energy" and whatever it takes to interact with it and understand it. If anyone is reading your thoughts then its basically your energy because I don't think its possible to just magically read thoughts unless thoughts are generating energy patterns which can be picked up and understood in the ethers as energy. So everyone is really open to it.

If he's really putting in extra effort to "absorb" your energy feeling, just tell him to stop. You have the free will to say I don't like that and its kind of creepy/annoying/ "I dont like it". But if you don't know if he is, then maybe he's not. Maybe he's just something like a scorpio moon who understands something deep about you and you don't know what it is that he understands but he understands something and maybe youre assuming he can read your thoughts. Who knows.

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posted October 03, 2016 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ayelet... I'm remembering that story you told (in another forum) of meeting those teachers. When I saw this thread, it occurred to me that what if that trauma opened some kind of hole or made a tear that needs to be closed?

If you had the money, I'd say consult with a high-level very reputable spiritual surgeon (I'm not sure if that's the actual name), and have them close that opening with you.

People who are real adepts, masters, can sense-see the hole and both of you together (from ether realm) CLOSE that door.

This is not an airy fairy poof I'll say the magic words and we're done. No. There are ACTUAL real etheric-metaphysical doctors out there, who are able to perceive and do this work. You need to shut that portal. It will not bother you again.

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posted October 03, 2016 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Mirage. Unfortunately, I don't know any spiritual doctors/surgeons/adepts. I don't know the source of all that I've heard, not even if it was one source or several. But lately I'm beginning to think again that the voice I seldom hear is of the teacher I met. I don't know. Of course I don't want to fool myself. It is the things he says which make me assume it. But I've been through terrible experiences with voices before, so I don't know. Thing is, it is very gentle, comes at night when I'm sleepy, and I'm not afraid anymore.

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posted October 03, 2016 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is merely an assumption (to whom the voice belongs, if it is not mine). It is a voice, nothing more, nothing less. And it seems to reply to thoughts I'm thinking while asleep.

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posted October 03, 2016 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Thing is, it is very gentle, comes at night when I'm sleepy, and I'm not afraid anymore.

Ayelet, I don't think this is your voice, coming from you. This happened to me a few times, but as I can sense the energies I can tell it is not mine. What you can do is test it, when you hear it ask yourself : Is this thought mine?
You will get a clear internal answer , more like a feeling because it comes from your energy field. I know it's a bit abstract, but try it.
When you realize the voice is not yours, your soul will block it or get you to wake up.

There are times of more intense psychic activity, and I find that this is when these type of incidents happen. They are called psychic attacks, they happen in astral plane. Check if you have a South Node conjunction to anything, either natal or by transit, esp if aspecting Vx.

If you think(sense) that this is coming from your 'guru' then you probably have an open channel to him, as someone earlier mentioned.
Close the channel. It's very simple, just state the intention that you now cut all energetic cords from you to the person, and from the person to you, that you don't wish to be affected or influenced in any way whatsoever by this person ever again. And that you release them from this connection, and release yourself from this connection goodbye and farewell.

By the way, any holes in aura can be closed by doing the purple flame cleansing. Search for IQ and purple flame, he posted the link to the process some time ago.

Hope this helps, we all go through these things, you're not alone

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Ayelet
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posted October 03, 2016 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Novabronte. Thing is, if I knew for sure the source is the guru I met, then I would never have done anything to block the person, as he is a good person and not spiritually abusive in any way. Thing is, I can't be sure since I've been through painful stuff with voices, and I don't think he would have hurt me. If it was him and only him, I wouldn't have been hurt at all.

And tNeptune conjunct my SN right now, but this has been going on for several years now, and has gotten a lot better.

I would block the painful voices of the past, but I don't mind it so much when it's gentle and non-intrusive. And many times I do wake up because of a voice. And sometimes I can remember what I thought and what it said in response, while at other times I don't seem able to trace the thought I had because the voice is audible and wakes me up sometimes, and I can't even remember what it was answering to. If it will return to inflict pain in any way I shall try to block it, but as it is right now I don't even have any control over it, as it comes during my sleep.

If I knew that it was that guru (not the painful part), I would have been happy, I guess. Because I didn't want to lose him.

The experience confused me, and someone told me no good and wise guru would have talked into my head. He would have come directly at me, like a human being. That's partly why I thought the voice comes from me. But if just part of it comes from him, then I am not afraid anymore. And I also don't think anyone reads my mind whenever besides the silent witness within. I liked what you wrote of "soul rules".

How did you deal with what you've heard?

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posted October 03, 2016 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ayelet:

And tNeptune conjunct my SN right now, but this has been going on for several years now, and has gotten a lot better.

How did you deal with what you've heard?


Well, I immediately got myself to wake up. A few days ago, as I was falling asleep I was running through my usual protection formulas or prayers lets say, and a male voice close to my face was telling me to shut up. I denied him. I don't go into dialogue, I react immediately.
I am aware of the dangers. If things get too intrusive, I invoke Archangels for help.

One thing you need to remember - if you hear any voice whatsoever, other than your own, the best course of action is to deny it...even if its a voice from God. Because anything good, God or otherwise, will understand that you are denying it because it made you fearful and will find another way to contact you.

You have an active transit of Neptune to SN conjunct, and this brings psychic abilities and allows the native to be influenced from the astral plane. It can bring cosmic consciousness or a malevolent intrusion of selfish and evil spirits.
Do the psychic protection which I mentioned a few posts earlier. Refrain from trance meditation, or drinking or drugs as this will make things worse, these substances weaken the astral body. Focus on positive things, silence negative thoughts, play Christmas music if you have to, just make sure you have no negative stuff around you at least while the transit is active.
Try asking Todd in Interpersonal Astrology forum to do the nodes reading for you, he has great knowledge.

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posted October 04, 2016 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, but how can I ask a question in interpersonal astrology when it's not about relationships?

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Ayelet
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posted October 04, 2016 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, Novabronte - has your guardian angel ever spoken to you? How can you get a message from him/her?

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posted October 05, 2016 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And thanks a lot for the support..

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posted October 05, 2016 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Thanks, but how can I ask a question in interpersonal astrology when it's not about relationships?

Just try, I see that Todd visits there often. Worst case Randall asks you to move the post to a different thread, but Todd will see it there.

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posted October 05, 2016 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks I'll try.

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posted October 08, 2016 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the brick thing,

This works, you can block it if you want

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posted October 08, 2016 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't be afraid of your own thoughts. Do you realize there is no privacy in this world. A physical satellite can zoom in on you live when you are walking out of your house, cell phones can capture images and videos without you ever knowing it, etc. even drones can spy on you from outside your windows.

We are energy and energy is always changing Thoughts are things like all other energies and they can be transferred, transmuted and intercepted. Thoughts come and go, so understand where they come from, embrace them and their existence, then release them with love, transmute them, and you end up controlling your own energies instead of allowing them to control you

It's the responsibility of all of us to control our own energies and no others, and to not allow control by others. We can block them.

If you are so gifted as to have beyond physical abilities, then embrace them and understand them, use them with integrity, and if there is a discomfort or temptation to abuse those gifts then you can learn to control them because you allow them to manifest. Perhaps unconsciously, but they are a part of your creation. One reason I love astrology is because the asteroids show you your gifts and help you understand them.

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posted October 09, 2016 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
Don't be afraid of your own thoughts. Do you realize there is no privacy in this world. A physical satellite can zoom in on you live when you are walking out of your house, cell phones can capture images and videos without you ever knowing it, etc. even drones can spy on you from outside your windows.

We are energy and energy is always changing Thoughts are things like all other energies and they can be transferred, transmuted and intercepted. Thoughts come and go, so understand where they come from, embrace them and their existence, then release them with love, transmute them, and you end up controlling your own energies instead of allowing them to control you

It's the responsibility of all of us to control our own energies and no others, and to not allow control by others. We can block them.

If you are so gifted as to have beyond physical abilities, then embrace them and understand them, use them with integrity, and if there is a discomfort or temptation to abuse those gifts then you can learn to control them because you allow them to manifest. Perhaps unconsciously, but they are a part of your creation. One reason I love astrology is because the asteroids show you your gifts and help you understand them.


I don't think I have beyond physical abilities more than anyone else. I've been fearing my thoughts because, as it appeared, they could have been read and even commented over. But that may not have been "real", though it was real enough for me. It was a frightening experience, and I hope it will not return, at least not the way it was. At the time that it happened, I didn't know how to block it. Now there is hardly any need to. But recently I dreamt that I met my teacher and he could read my mind, and at first I was happy about that, but then my head just filled with the wrong thoughts, and in the end he left me. That was my fear ever since what that happened to me with the thoughts. I wasn't usually afraid of them. It is the experience of hearing voices, and perhaps meeting those people which I want to meet again, that triggered it.

But I guess that is true that no one is allowed to control us, not even elevated beings.

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posted October 10, 2016 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well-said.

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Ayelet
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posted October 11, 2016 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also agree with you, PlutoSurvivor, that negative thoughts should be embraced, then released. I just couldn't, it was out of control, because of fear. It's different now, when I have more peace of mind.

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