posted September 23, 2017 03:36 PM            

As I read in stars signs Linda's opinion about abortions is that is it in fact an act against nature but not murder. Its a waist of nature's energy and a waist of a creation of a body.

My mother had an abortion when she was teenager and felt so guilty all her life. Then she had 3 children but she still think she will get bad karma and even confessed that to me crying in a therapy we were doing.

She have been best mum ever, so dedicated and caring so I wonder which bad karma can she get for something she did as a teen out of fear.
I guess if she had to learn a lesson about motherhood she learnt that in this life by the 3 children she had later.

So as an act against nature, I wonder which bad karma can she get if she truly regrets about it.
As Linda says some karma goes away when we ' learn the lesson'.

So I don't know ... diferent spiritual traditions says diferent things about the topic.

But if its not murder and the person we are speaking about its someone like my mum I wonder which bad karma is she suposed to get.

I will apreciate the answers of people who knows a bit about it.

posted September 23, 2017 09:50 PM            

Relevant part:

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Karma, in the original Buddhist scriptures, is a blind machine; in fact, it is functionally identical with the scientific concept of natural law. Sentimental ethical ideas about justice being built into the machine, so that those who do evil in one life are punished for it in another life, were added later by theologians reasoning from their own moralistic prejudices. Buddha simply indicated that all the cruelties and injustices of the past are still active: their effects are always being felt. Similarly, he explained, all the good of the past, all the kindness and patience and love of decent people is also still being felt.

Since most humans are still controlled by fairly robotic reflexes, the bad energy of the past far outweighs the good, and the tendency of the wheel is to keep moving in the same terrible direction, violence breeding more violence, hatred breeding more hatred, war breeding more war. The only way to “stop the wheel” is to stop it inside yourself, by giving up bad energy and concentrating on the positive. This is by no means easy, but once you understand what Gurdjieff called “the horror of our situation,” you have no choice but to try, and to keep on trying

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That is to say I don't see it as a force that rewards and punishes by human standards. Sometimes, it's the innocent who are harmed the most because they're not watching their backs like those willfully doing wrong and worry about retaliation, justice, or other consequences. This view scares and distresses many people which is why it was changed to something less scary and more moral in the human sense.

I don't think your mother has anything to worry about karma-wise over this, other than what she inflicts upon herself (which could follow her into another life).

posted October 02, 2017 08:27 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
I don't know about karma and all that but personally I think its a far better option than giving birth to a child and giving the child a slow death. If the mom wanted to abort in the first place, I doubt she'd welcome the child with arms wide open, not in most cases anyway, somewhere deep down there might lurk a regret of having given birth and even if the mom might try her best to nurture the child, it can still show up unconsciously, deep down she might hate the child.

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posted November 11, 2017 06:31 PM            

...But I came across long ago the concept that the soul generally does not enter the fetus until late in the pregnancy...in the range of the last few months of pregnancy, to even a few days after birth. It may check in and out of the womb earlier, but it doesn't choose to take permanent residence in it's physical body until then. Before that time, the soul may still reconsider and determine that this particular woman, as a mother, would not be ideal for its current growth goals. (In that case, if you don't have another soul eager to jump in to the fetus, there might be a still-birth situation--which of course may be just the life experience the birth mother was meant to have, anyway.)

This view has always felt correct to me--perhaps something I always "knew" within myself.

Interestingly, scientists say that the average time of brain activity beginning in a fetus is around 30 weeks--sometimes earlier, sometimes later; corresponding to the time the soul is thought to enter the fetus.
http://www.livescience.com/54774-fetal-pain-anesthesia.html

The rabid, overwhelmingly male, anti-abortion hounds trot out the claim that the fetus can feel pain. As the above article describes, while the neurological pathways are indeed developing that allow the body to feel pain, the brain is not fully aware of and responsive to it until around that 30 week mark.

It seems sadly primitive to me that the dominant cultural view still holds this juvenile view about abortion; and for lack of a mature view about birth control we have a society full of unplanned-for babies born to ignorant, guilt-induced young women, ill-prepared to care for them, physically or emotionally; and they and society suffer accordingly for their choices.

posted November 22, 2017 04:25 PM              

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Originally posted by Randall:
But I am pro life.

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posted January 29, 2018 08:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
Me too.

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posted January 30, 2019 09:55 PM            

I don't believe there are repercussions for abortion, as in you'll pay for it later. I personally believe that the soul hasn't committed to the body until the first breath is taken and possibly a few months after.

posted January 30, 2019 10:50 PM            

..you are another who has
been here in the past!?

posted January 31, 2019 12:48 AM            

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Originally posted by ballerina:
I had an abortion at 19,
I have and will regret my
weakness, forever...

..you are another who has
been here in the past!?

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I've actually had 2 abortions for 2 drastically different reasons. I used to regret having the first. I don't anymore, I've accepted the decision I made then and learned from it. Thinking of the could have been, or what ifs can wear you down and possibly keep you from seeing what could be. As with any past trauma, healing needs to take place so you can feel that you're on the right path for you. Love yourself and all of your mistakes and weaknesses, those lessons you've learned will be your foundation to bring your best light forward. ❤❤❤