posted March 21, 2020 12:46 PM            

Don't get me wrong. They have contributed greatly to the world too-in medicines, in martial arts etc.

They want to eat wild animals and don't care about sustenance.

The year of the Rat , 2020 brings diseases and plagues to them.
Update 03/28/2020:

They made a bio weapon in their labs (perhaps together with the unpatriotic Americans) , they played with fire and it backfired.
http://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.26.919985v1.full

They are also guilty of rolling out 5G mobile network that is known to destroy human immunity. No wonder the 5G testbeds are succumbing faster , Wuhan, Iran, Italy.

Thoughts.

posted March 21, 2020 05:10 PM            

And now that they've gotten a handle on it while the rest of the world endures, many of them want their Chinese relatives abroad to come back to China where they'll be safer until this blows over.

It appears that this was started by an elite and corrupt group of Chinese using unsafe marketing practices and it, once again, blew up in their faces (as opposed to made in a lab as some weapon--and if it was designed, they suck at it, probably hired the same morons spreading this conspiracy trash over Facebook).

Tell me, do you accept responsibility for the actions of your nation? Because if so you should be focused more on your karma than theirs. Sure, they've got a lot coming, but so do we, and if some Chinese guy (I assume this guy is actually Chinese, and not someone whose ancestors are from China but is now Canadian or American or some such because if it's the latter then he's irrelevant) has it coming, then so do you.

x

Though from a more mechanistic rather than moralistic view of karma (that is, more cause and effect) this is indeed karma, but that's not justice, that's our own stupidity and fear and anger cycling back and forth in a wheel of pain that runs over the entire world (us as much as them), and will continue to do so until we learn that we're in this together and learn to act with compassion (or at least enlightened self-interest) rather than separate into tribes based on ethnicity, religion, race, gender, nationality, and the like.

posted March 21, 2020 06:46 PM            

Karma of group of people deciding to form a nation is a reality. No escape out of it.
Even Freud and others first coined the word "collective" unconscious. There are several realities of a conscious mind.

China has become greedy. Agreed America drives most of the demands but the Chinese always had choice. They have been destroying nature. Fulfilling those needs. Not just America but of Europe too. They could have stand up.

They have been hiding too many secrets from the people. Not providing sanitation and other basic needs for people outside of big cities. Enforcing 5G on them.

People are treated like machines. No respect for dignity of the people.

posted March 21, 2020 06:53 PM            

Do you think people won't get arrested for refusing to be quaranteed in their homes?

What is the right thing to do during these tumultous times? You are right todd, everyone needs to ask the right questions so that they are able respond correctly.

Seattle and Chicago are already resembling 3rd world countries as you tour some parts of their city.

posted March 21, 2020 09:40 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
THEIR greed? The reason they maintain such good relations with the USA (most of the time) is because of OUR unlimited greed.

And now that they've gotten a handle on it while the rest of the world endures, many of them want their Chinese relatives abroad to come back to China where they'll be safer until this blows over.

It appears that this was started by an elite and corrupt group of Chinese using unsafe marketing practices and it, once again, blew up in their faces (as opposed to made in a lab as some weapon--and if it was designed, they suck at it, probably hired the same morons spreading this conspiracy trash over Facebook).

Tell me, do you accept responsibility for the actions of your nation? Because if so you should be focused more on your karma than theirs. Sure, they've got a lot coming, but so do we, and if some Chinese guy (I assume this guy is actually Chinese, and not someone whose ancestors are from China but is now Canadian or American or some such because if it's the latter then he's irrelevant) has it coming, then so do you.

x

Though from a more mechanistic rather than moralistic view of karma (that is, more cause and effect) this is indeed karma, but that's not justice, that's our own stupidity and fear and anger cycling back and forth in a wheel of pain that runs over the entire world (us as much as them), and will continue to do so until we learn that we're in this together and learn to act with compassion (or at least enlightened self-interest) rather than separate into tribes based on ethnicity, religion, race, gender, nationality, and the like.

And right now, fear and hate do a lot more harm than the coronavirus itself, as it always had, and perhaps always will.

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posted March 22, 2020 01:51 AM            

Probably to reduce over population.

No new cases in Wuhan.
Lets pray for a divine intervention (creative forces of the universe) and hope to halt the virus in its path.

I too want quality of life for every one and less population definitely helps. But killing is not my method.

posted March 23, 2020 07:30 PM            

They take pleasure in eating banned animals
and don't care about sustenance.

Perhaps if we left to nature, the virus had no need to jump to human hosts as it was getting its food from the animals .

Who knows , in time it would have jumped to humans anyways.

posted March 24, 2020 07:02 PM            

Trump is no doctor, he's a politician. His word on this is pretty much worthless (though he has access to others, he doesn't seem inclined to listen to them unless it's of personal interest, as opposed to national interest), right along with the media. I could see you asking what his karma for trying to end social distancing if it hurts his hotels, but not pointing out that he said what many others have said. (And btw, South Korea operated with a lot more transparency then the United States and many other nations and seem to have demonstrated less corruption, insider trading, and general incompetence in dealing with this.)

And what exactly are you saying? That we should export all those of Chinese descent from Western nations and then bar all tourism so that this never happens again?

posted March 26, 2020 04:53 PM            

Karma means cause and effect. It will come back to you. Saturn now in capricorn means you shall reap as though sow.

Chinese people worldwide should recognize and come to an understanding of this.

Do not hurt nature. Do not eat endangered species. Think of sustenance. When number increases, think about it. Animal kingdom is part of the one whole cosmic family. Imbalance in one causes ripple effect in other kingdoms. We all like to watch movies like "Synchronicity" but don't learn anything from them.

Do good deeds as it did by releasing first the gnome of the Virus to the rest of the world for a speedy cure.

Also good deed in selling supplies to Spain for cheap.

Substandard is better than using trash bags and plastic lol

[URL=http://www.foxnews.com/world/china-money-coronavirus-spain-467-million-faulty-supplies]http://www.foxnews.com/world/china-money-coronavirus-spain-467-million-faulty-supplies[/ URL]

posted March 26, 2020 04:59 PM            

No other nation is devoted to Medidation/Prayers like the Tibetan. Do them right. Recent corona virus has proved the herd immunity is stronger in villages. And Tibetans are mountain people.

posted March 26, 2020 09:21 PM            

Our cruise ships are a really shady biz as well which also contributed to this among many other problems. Frankly, I think we'd be better off if they went out of business.

If we want to meditate on karma, then instead of "The Chinese" we could focus on our own. 'Course we're ruthless, greedy, materialistic pigs as well. Wal-Mart, the Gap, so many others keep getting busted for using child labor in foreign nations under horrid conditions (sometimes resulting in deaths as a building burns down because they're not up to code), but every time they (and thus we) pretend to be surprised even though it happens on a regular basis since as long as I can remember. But hey, cheap clothing while the CEOs and fashion designers are among the wealthiest in the world (my "favorite" is how many Che Guevara shirts and hats are made by child labor in sweat shops--not that I think he's the hero many make him out to be, but those who buy the products of the worst excesses of capitalism seem to think so). That's just one of the evils of our fashion industry.

Naturally, when this was legal in the United States, plenty of parents sent their kids off to sweatshops even though it was suffering and risked mutilation and death, sometimes so mamma and papa could drink and smoke (think the money belonged to the kids who worked 12 hour + shifts in appalling conditions?), and it wasn't that we collectively recognized the wrongness of it, but that unions at the time didn't like how they could often be replaced by child labor so came up with importing the idea of compulsory public schools (even then they couldn't sell it without summer, that is when parents needed their kids as free labor for farm chores back when such schools were first instituted) as developed in Prussia, IIRC, different from how schooling was in the US at the time (of course pointing out the benefits to corporations and the military--back then there was a draft but too many were too malnourished to be fit soldiers, thus the school lunch with PE was instituted, separate for boys and girls since girls needed more body fat for healthy babies while boys needed more muscles to be drafted, that is the schools weren't for the children but for the rich and powerful even if the unions were the ones to push the idea in the first place). And what I could say of modern school boards and their ruthless, greedy, corrupt practices...

And oh yes...the great irony that we might see an uptick of is people being evicted, by the homeless. A great many people want the best prices they can get and charge outrageous rents, because they can, and can jack up the price about any time they want. When someone loses a job (like many more may now do) they get evicted. And who serves the eviction notice? Around here, many homeless people (some who were evicted this way themselves) get hired over Craigslist as cheap, expendable labor to serve 'em up. Of course this doesn't come anywhere close to enough money to allow the homeless to get off the streets so that it balances out, but does allow them some food money (no, not every or even most homeless person is a heroin addict or alcoholic).

I guess that's mild considering our other dog eat dog daily life, but the irony really gets to me. 'Course we make many people homeless, imprison (and execute) the innocent, and all that, much like the Chinese.

Factory farming could be a topic to explore. While I'm not a fan of PETA, even I can't ignore how vile it gets, and surprised some practices have to be voted on rather than considered animal cruelty by law to begin with (guess if you make enough money rather than doing it for kicks that it makes it okay). And hear of how many corporations hold farmers in fear so many won't speak up in defense of themselves for being exploited, and how politicians, without reasons given, continued to vote against any protection of them even when they did (and the farmers who spoke up punished for it by the corporations)?

I remember the time I saw hundreds of needles sloshing up against a sea wall in Corpus Christi. I mentioned to the trucker walking with me that there sure were a lot of junkies and he corrected me, saying when it's like that, the local hospitals hire someone to get rid of their used needles, typically hiring the cheapest, and the cheapest then dumps those needles into the Gulf of Mexico. There are A LOT of practices along those lines that don't get a comment, but are just begging for trouble.

How's all that, from sugar to uncontrolled price spikes to child slavery gonna bite our greedy, materialistic, ruthless butts?

Maybe our access to firearms without meaningful ways to screen out the dangerous ones means we'll be having an uptick in mass shootings, the moment schools and cinemas reopen?

Seems more relevant to ask than what the karma of the Chinese is, unless you're Chinese...though your neighbor doesn't count because he's not involved in the government of China or those activities as far as we know. He may actually be a nice guy, and he'll share in our karma rather than that of the Chinese. Let's not hold the Chinese to higher standards than we hold ourselves. If everyone Chinese must pay, then all of us must also pay for our worst in power.

I personally don't see it as okay or just to punish people here of Chinese descent because of China's corrupt government and vile business practices, just like the lot of us shouldn't be for what our own ruthless business and political leaders do. Or if we do...well, we all have our karma. And those of Chinese descent who are citizens here share the karma you and I do, not those living in Wuhan.

And what it really comes down to is that I don't see a point in focusing on someone else's karma when we've got our own karma to work through, both as individuals, and as collective entities as nations, church denominations, businesses, and the like. We support it with our taxes and our shopping habits, after all, and a lot of times worry more about the economy and our first world toys (gotta have the latest phone, even if it will be obsolete as planned in a year or so!) even if some preteens gotta slave for 12 hours and perhaps die in a fire on the other side of the world to make it happen. Never mind that the economy as it exists is not necessary as we could live for A LOT cheaper if we just changed our habits and priorities (and the only reason the endless series of bubbles which make up our foolish economical practices keeps happening is because big business get bailed out every time it pops).

posted March 27, 2020 01:32 PM            

[URL=http://www.newsweek.com/melting-glaciers-thawing-permafrost-ancient-viruses-1486037]http://www.newsweek.com/melting-glaciers-thawing-permafrost-ancient-viruses-1486037
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/ancient-viruses-found-tibetan-glacier

A poem comes to mind....not a karma thing......
The Hollow Men
by T.S.Eliot

quote:

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This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

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posted March 27, 2020 02:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:

A poem comes to mind....not a karma thing......
The Hollow Men
by T.S.Eliot

[QUOTE]This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

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This quote appears in the beginning of the mini series "The Stand" by the book by Stephen King about the fatal "super-flu"..

posted March 27, 2020 03:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
This quote appears in the beginning of the mini series "The Stand" by the book by Stephen King about the fatal "super-flu"..

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posted March 28, 2020 01:52 AM            

Noticed how many times he used rat . more than once. Synchronicity?

2020 is the year of Rat according to the chinese. This year the people didn't get a chance to celebrate the new year during the epidemic. The rats came to the doors and went away unhappy finding no food. The rats brings plagues and diseases therefore.