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Topic: Hard to deal with my pets death...
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Aquarian Girl
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posted August 09, 2004 11:39 AM
 
My Jack Russell puppy was run over several months ago and I'm still having a hard time dealing with the guilt. I'm hoping someone can tell me what they believe happens to an animal's soul when it dies. I want to believe that Angel is now in doggy heaven, but I would feel much better knowing what beliefs people actually hold... I'm tearing up now just thinking about it all. That dog meant so much to me. Compounding my guilt is the fact that we gave her away a month before she was run over. She wasn't in our care when it happened. I can't help but feel that if I took care of her, it would never have happened.
She was just shy of her 2nd birthday, and when we got her my husband was in the military and I didn't work, we had a house with a yard and lots of kids in our neighbourhood. We thought he would re-enlist, but he didn't and for the first year it was ok because he worked from home and I walked her everyday and she got a lot of attention. Then he changed jobs, so she was locked up all day. I couldn't do this to her. It broke my heart every day. And she loved and trusted me and I felt like I was betraying her trust by effectively jailing her every day. So we very carefully found her a new home with a family with lots of animals (2 cats, 2 birds and one other dog) and a big yard... A few months after we gave her to them, their neighbour came over and accidently left the door open and Angel bounded out and got hit by a car. She was the sweetest little animal, I've had a lot of dogs before and honestly, she had the most loving, most affectionate, purest little nature of any animal. I have dreams about her all the time. Last night I dreamt we moved and we had all these other dogs and I realised my husband gave her away and I made him bring her back. I've had other animals die before, but I just feel so much guilt and grief over Angel. She was just so special. I wish I could know where she is, or what the next step for her little soul is. I think it will help me get over it. IP: Logged |
Randall
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From: Columbus, GA USA
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posted August 09, 2004 12:45 PM
http://www.petloss.com/poems/maingrp/rainbowb.htm ------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
pidaua
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From: Sierra Vista, Arizona
Registered: May 2002
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posted August 09, 2004 01:13 PM
Hi Aquarian Girl, Only time can really ease the pain. Our pets are our world and our family. Losing them does leave a hole in our hearts. You did the best you could for Angel by giving her to a home that could take care of her and spend all the time that a Jack Russell requires. There is nothing more sad on this Earth than a Jack Russell NOT getting that time to run and play. They become very depressed. You did what you did because you care. Even the best kept dogs can break free and get hit by cars. I have seen it again and again working at the ER vet hospitals. Even us techs lose dogs to running outside or getting off their leash and getting hit by a car. It is heart wrenching, but animals do not always understand the dangers of the outside world. I still miss every one of my animals that have passed aways. They represented more than just pets, they were my friends (and my two fat cats I have now are my little buddies, my family). The pain subsides...the grief goes away, but never forget them - keep them in your heart. I truly believe that you will see your pets again. I keep a little memory box where I put a picture of every animal I have had with a little card about how much I loved them. Sometimes I look through them and I remember the joy they brought me and the times we had. Maybe that will help you with your pain? My prayers are with you. ~Pidaua IP: Logged |
Nephthys
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From: California
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted August 09, 2004 09:55 PM
Dear Aquarian Girl,First, I am so sad for you, and empathetic for your loss.  
I lost 5 pets in 2 years. I have their pictures all over my desk and walls. I think about all of them all the time. Have you ever seen the Pet Psychic? She believes that the Souls of our animals are with us always.
Two books which I recommend are;
- "The Soul of your Pet", by Scott S. Smith
- "Blessing the Bridge - What Animals Teach Us About Death, Dying and Beyond", by Rita M. Reynolds
I made a list of recommended animal books here;Recommended Animal Books and now here is what I believe........
Animals have souls. Their bodies are simply a "shell" just like humans. When they die, their Souls or Spirits leave the body and go to the Spirit World. They can visit or stay with us, spiritually whenever they want. There are people in the Spirit World who take care of animals. All animals get along with each other in the Spirit World.
Oh, I have another thread here;
Multiple Pet Loss All best to you ~ 
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Randall
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From: Columbus, GA USA
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posted August 09, 2004 10:55 PM
I believe the same way, although I also believe insects and other creatures may have one OverSoul for each type. I have no reason why I believe this other than a feeling. What if I have a pet tarantula? Maybe the Love of a human actually gives that creature a separate Soul? Something to ponder. Maybe the Love I had for the baby finch I tried to care for (but who gave one last goodbye chirp and died anyway) actually received a ticket to the Rainbow Bridge due to my Love. ------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
pidaua
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From: Sierra Vista, Arizona
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posted August 09, 2004 10:57 PM
I never thought of that Randall. That makes sense. I would like to think that everything we love will depart into a much happier area and their souls will meet with us again someday  IP: Logged |
Aquarian Girl
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posted August 10, 2004 09:52 AM
Wow, thanks everyone for all your kind responses. You know, it's wierd, but I kind of feel better after just writing out that post, because it made me realize that I really did want the best for Angel, and so did her new family... The lady worked with my husband and he said she cried at her desk all week, and I remember before we gave her to them they took time to reinforce their fence and everything... but then stuff just happens anyway. The neighbour was upset too! Angel was very, very loved. I have some friends that were raised buddhist (they don't necessarily practice though) and they told me they believe animals go on to "be something better" after they die... I really hope this is true. Angel didn't have a malicious bone in her little body and I feel very guilty because I couldn't provide her with a good home. I really hope that my love helped her little soul in it's journey somehow. I'm sorry if I sound melodramatic or ridiculous, but when I adopt a pet I take it very seriously and Angel was with me through a lot of changes and upheaval in my life, I felt so close to her and I feel like I promised to take care of her and I failed her. She was a little creature that was weaker than me and depended on me and adored me, and I just feel that I could have done better for her, that's probably why I'm having such a hard time with it. I'm going to buy some of those books about the souls of animals, I think with a deeper understanding I will feel better. IP: Logged |
Sheaa Olein
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From: Laaandon
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted August 10, 2004 01:02 PM
Aquarian Girl - I'm glad you feel better, welcome by the way. It is one of the most difficult things to encompass, and comprehend - my healing thoughts are with you. quote:
I'm sorry if I sound melodramatic or ridiculous, but when I adopt a pet I take it very seriously and Angel was with me through a lot of changes and upheaval in my life, I felt so close to her and I feel like I promised to take care of her and I failed her. She was a little creature that was weaker than me and depended on me and adored me, and I just feel that I could have done better for her, that's probably why I'm having such a hard time with it.
I feel you on that - you don't sound melodramatic!! Honestly - it's a strong love bond and friendship, there is lots of beautiful writing here, I'm so glad I read it. On the same note, thank you to you, Randall, pidaua, & Nephthys. You helped me too Love to you Aquarian Girl - it'll be good to hear from you and see how you're doing. Sheaa  ------------------
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trillian
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From: The Boundless
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted August 10, 2004 04:08 PM
for you Aquarian Girl. You're not silly or melodramatic at all.I too know that animals live on, as do we. I miss and think about my beloved T.C. nearly every day. Randall, excellent points. I have contemplated a bug's life and spiritual journey from time to time.  IP: Logged |
Isis
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From: CA
Registered: Jan 2004
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posted August 10, 2004 08:16 PM
I don't think you're silly at all. I had a cat several years ago, he and his siblings were abandoned by thier mom, so I had him from a very young age - only about maybe 6 months total IF THAT, and when I moved back to CA my mother left the back door open, he got out and was run over right in front of her house. I was so distraught, couldn't go to work for a week. I felt so silly, like what is wrong with me - and the corporate world isn't too sympathetic with "I need some time, my cat died". It was the concept of kitty heaven that made me finally feel OK with it, and it also taught me one of the main reasons why humans need to believe in something greater than themselves - death: the fear of it, or the loss of loved ones because of it. He was my first first-hand experience with death, and I didn't do so well. I still miss him sometimes, and even still feel guilt on the rare ocassion (and that was 7 years ago)...so while I'm of course biased I think it's quite normal to grieve as intensely for a pet as you would for a person close to you. It's a similar, if not the same, loss IMO. IP: Logged |
Nephthys
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From: California
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted August 10, 2004 11:10 PM
All of my pets are my children, so when I have lost them, it has been devastating for me. I agree, Isis, the corporate world is not understanding. Nor are people who never had a pet or don't like animals. *******Please, no one on this forum, ever say you are ridiculous or anything like that for mourning your pets or loving them. That's what this forum is for; to love animals, pets, and support one another.  IP: Logged |
Aquarian Girl
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posted November 03, 2004 12:19 AM
Thanks so much for all your love and messages of support... I do feel much better about Angel, although I still get really upset if I look at her pictures too much.I'm convinced she has gone on to "something better" and I'm OK not knowing exactly what that is. but I really know in my heart of hearts how pure she was and I know nothing bad could ever happen to her little soul. I don't even want to ever get another dog because I'm afriad I wouldn't love it as much as I did Angel. I can't explain how attached I was to her, it was so heartbreaking to give her away and then to have her die shortly afterwards in their care was just too much guilt. Anyway... Thank you again, I really think you all helped me get where I am with this toady. I thought about everything you all said deeply, and it did help me. Thanks. IP: Logged |
Nephthys
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From: California
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posted November 03, 2004 12:45 PM
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juniperb
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From: Big Dipper
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posted November 03, 2004 08:04 PM
Aquarian Girl you have my deepest sympathy. It is said both Angels and Animals submitted to God and they are in the same Realm. That gives the Heart joy.  ------------------
If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans. ~James Herriot IP: Logged |
Aquarian Girl
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posted November 07, 2004 11:23 PM
 thanks so much. the other day i was showing a friend some pictures and for the first time i didn't feel sad talking about her, i just spoke about how funny she was and her quirky little personality. she was hands-down the most intelligent dog i've ever known and it made for some really funny incidents, lol. she was really great. i miss her a lot. i can't access my ftp server from work, but i'll post some of those pictures later. she was the prettiest jack russell you ever saw! not that i'm biased or anything  IP: Logged |
Nephthys
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From: California
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted November 08, 2004 09:39 PM
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AWAKE
Shake dreams from your hair
My pretty child, my sweet one.
Choose the day and choose the sign of your day
The day's divinity
First thing you see.
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Cable
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From: Manila, Philippines
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted January 04, 2005 09:41 AM
Hi everyone, I'm a newbie here, how bout this for a first post:Four years ago my friend's pitbull gave birth, and as I was veterinary med undergrad, he asked me to stand-by in case anything went wrong, Logan was the last of the 8 that popped out, he was the runt of the litter, and I didn't really expect him to make it - but to make a long story short -Logan became my dog (or I became his boy, however you want to look at it), he became a constant companion whenever I was at home, he managed to open screen doors and make it up the stairs to be in front of my room when I woke up in the morning (he was a BIG dog that belonged outside!), anyway, I loved this one like a brother, a friend, a family member (actually referred to Logan as my first-born son!), imagine how terrible I felt when he got sick a year ago, right after christmas (he developed some sort of problem with his tongue), the nearby vets were closed for the holidays to boot!
He was a fighter though, and he made it past new years, I brought him to 2 clinics, both doctors could'nt figure out what was wrong either (I trust those guys, they were former teachers of mine).
It was so hard to see him struggle, trying to survive, and me not knowing what to do to help him, believe me, if I could have given some of my life essence, I would have! I sat by him the whole time, it was a terrible new year, sometimes all I could do was hold him and pray (and I am not the praying type).
Finally on the 5th, his already emaciated body just couldn't take it anymore, I was watching over him when he let out a frightening yelp and passed away. I was crushed. Thinking that maybe there was something more, anything, that I could have done to help him make it... he came into this world right into my hands, and he went out with me still holding on... it still nags me to this day, but I choose to instead remember the happy times we had, I guess if I didn't do that, it would be too depressing. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted January 04, 2005 10:44 AM
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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Nephthys
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From: California
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted January 04, 2005 09:11 PM
Dear Cable,Welcome to Heathcliffe's Corner!!! We hope you enjoy your stay here I am so sorry to hear of the story and loss of your wonderful dog, Logan I am so glad you were with him when he was born and also when he took his last breath ~ I am sure he is with you always  Best Wishes IP: Logged |
raihs
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From: eastcoast australia
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted January 20, 2005 12:18 AM
I lived on an isolated property for years and my good old dog was getting old. My (hate to say it), partner at the time thought he'd do me a favour and send me to town for the day to get supplies (strange i thought, he does that). Came home and he simply said "Ive put her down for you, she was getting old". I was so very angry with him, the method, and no goodbyes. (shotgun)  cried till bedtime, and then I heard her howling (cries while writing this). I never beleived in the Elvis phenomenon till I had this dream that same night, Elvis came to me and my dog, he gently took her lead from me and said "I'll take her now".
Off they walked....... IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted June 05, 2005 05:20 PM
Hope you are doing better. ------------------
"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll IP: Logged |
Tranquil Poet
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From: IN HELLLLLLLLLLLL
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posted June 09, 2005 03:01 PM
It is hard coping with the loss of an animal.
He is in heaven don't worry. You will see him there. i know many physcic personally and they have made it clear that animals go to heaven.
Reminds me a movie I saw.
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Devilfish
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posted June 12, 2005 03:36 PM
it gets lighter
we were blessed to have a blue pit bull named indigo
she was an awesome dog and was really close to my kids
she died on our farm we had to put her down,
long story still hurts.
that was 4 years ago
we thought about getting another dog but it didnt seem right
then one day a year and half ago our neighbor got a year old pit
they abused it and kept it locked in a basement
when they would bring her out and put her on a cable i would watch her play and chase butterflys
i could tell she was sweet
i watched the neighbor kids hit her and she did nothing but love
one day they said they were gonna take her to the pound
i said we would take her
she is so great and super intelligent my kids and i love her
i feel good knowing that although we couldnt save indy, we could save sandy.
its like its in honor of her.
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Randall
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posted June 13, 2005 01:03 PM
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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll IP: Logged |
Tranquil Poet
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From: IN HELLLLLLLLLLLL
Registered: Apr 2005
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posted June 14, 2005 01:40 AM
You know....the man I love lost his kitty. She was 5
Just 2 months ago. Wost part he was away when it happened. he called me and told me and I couldn't believe it
I got attached to her also. She was adorable. That was his baby...his daughter. her name was nona. Not many people really understand how the loss of an animal can be. I was there for him. I felt so bad. I went to his house and you could sense the sadness in that room. It was overwhelming. I cried. He cried when he called me. He never cries. I know how it is. You miss feeling there fur there touch. you feel like u have no soul. But you will meet again.
he threw away her water. It was all dirty....yesterday after so long. he couldnt let her go. he had her since she was 4 months old
My father was an animal lover. I could recall a pigeon with a broken leg he was taking care of dying after 2 days. I remember he cried.
Sweetheart
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