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maklhouf
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posted August 19, 2006 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maklhouf     Edit/Delete Message
At first sight these look cruel.Are they?

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juniperb
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posted August 19, 2006 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.idausa.org/facts/rodeos.html
http://www.nationalwestern.com/nwss/home/index.asp?rpg=/nwss/rodeo/animalwelfare.asp

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maklhouf
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posted August 21, 2006 04:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maklhouf     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks JB. the Australians are also fond of wrestling with animals and they get tourists to come and have a go as well. I am more dubious about that.

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salome
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posted August 22, 2006 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for salome     Edit/Delete Message
ANIMAL ABUSE INHERENT IN RODEO
Peggy W. Larson, DVM, MS, JD

"In order for a calf roper to become proficient he must spend a great deal of time practicing. Baby calves sold to the practice pens are roped over and over until they are injured or killed."


During the course of my lifetime, I have been a farmer, bareback bronc rider in the rodeo, a large animal veterinarian, a medical researcher, a meat inspector, a state veterinarian, and a prosecutor. I have also worked with the media as a consultant on animal abuse issues including rodeo and PMU horses.

Based upon my extensive experience with large animals, I have come to the conclusion that rodeo events are inherently inhumane. The most cruel are the roping events.

In calf roping, baby calves weighing less than 300 pounds are forced to run at speeds in excess of 25 miles per hour when they are roped. The reason they run at such high speeds is that they are being tortured in the holding chute. Their tails are twisted, their tails are rubbed back and forth over the steel bars of the chute and they are shocked with electric prods until the gate opens. They burst out of the chute at top speed only to be stopped short -- clotheslined -- with a choking rope around the neck. They are often injured and some are killed. These calves would still be with their mothers on pasture if they were not in the rodeo.

In order for a calf roper to become proficient he must spend a great deal of time practicing. Baby calves sold to the practice pens are roped over and over until they are injured or killed. Dr. T. K. Hardy, a veterinarian who was also a calf roper, was quoted in Newsweek stating that calf roping is an expensive sport. He stated that 2 or 3 calves are injured in each practice session and have to be replaced.

As a pathologist and former meat inspector, I believe my colleagues when they report horrendous injuries to rodeo cattle. Dr. C. G. Haber, a veterinarian with thirty years experience as a USDA meat inspector says: "The rodeo folks send their animals to the packing houses where...I have seen cattle so extensively bruised that the only areas in which the skin was attached was the head, neck, legs, and belly. I have seen animals with six to eight ribs broken from the spine and at times puncturing the lungs. I have seen as much as two and three gallons of free blood accumulated under the detached skin."

A career USDA meat inspection veterinarian, Dr. Robert Fetzner, Director of Slaughter Operations for FSIS (USDA) stated in our phone conversation on September 9, 1998, "Lots of rodeo animals went to slaughter. I found broken ribs, punctured lungs, hematomas, broken legs, severed tracheas and the ligamenta nuchae were torn loose." Torn ligamenta nuchae are broken necks.

This is the cruel fate of baby cows in rodeos.

"As with roping calves, tripping steers may be used over and over again in practice sessions. When they are crippled from the repeated abuse, they are sent to slaughter."


As with calf roping, steer tripping puts a rodeo animal at extreme risk of injury or death. Steers weighing approximately 700 pounds are forced to run at top speed while the roper throws the rope around the steer's horns. The roper then flips the rope over the right side of the steer, while turning his galloping horse to the left.

Within a split second, the steer's head and neck are jerked 180 degrees and more, causing the animal to be violently tripped, rolled and dragged for approximately 30 feet. That's a 700 pound body being dragged by the neck, with the horns digging into the dirt. Sometimes the horns fracture. The stress to the neck is enormous.

The roper's intent is to make the steer sustain a sufficiently violent fall and subsequent dragging to stun him. The purpose of the stunning is merely to enable the roper to tie the steer's legs for a score. If the steer is not sufficiently stunned in the first attempt, he may be tripped and dragged repeatedly in the same run until he stays down.

These steers are usually very thin, with sores on their backs and hips. They appear to be depressed, not lively. They are used so often that their injuries do not have time to heal. As with roping calves, tripping steers may be used over and over again in practice sessions. When they are crippled from the repeated abuse, they are sent to slaughter.

Animals also injured and killed in other rodeo events.

Bull riding may appear less harmful, as the bulls are so large. However, in order to enhance the bull's performance, cattle prods are often used to repeatedly shock the bulls as they stand trapped in the bucking chute. Bucking straps and spurs can cause the bull to buck beyond his capability and his legs or back can be broken. Eventually, when bulls cease to provide a wild ride, they too are sent to slaughter.

Bronc riding, both saddle and bareback, causes the deaths of many rodeo horses. It is common for horses in these events to crash blindly into posts in the fencing around the arena or into the holding fencing and chutes. Bucking horses must be spurred over the shoulders on each jump or buck for the rider to qualify. The spurs cause blunt trauma to the shoulders which again never have time to heal properly before the horse is ridden and spurred in another rodeo.

The bucking strap often causes chafing to the flank area, which increases the discomfort to the horse. The irritation of the spurs and the bucking strap often cause the horse to "run blind" and fail to see fencing, posts or chutes.

"Instead of humanely euthanizing the suffering animal, the rodeo people chose to ship her, leg dangling, across two states in a transport truck with other horses. She died before she could be killed at the slaughterhouse."


Horses (and cattle) have to be shipped from one rodeo to the next, often in double-deck trailers. These trailers are very dangerous because the horses often fight during transport. The same type of fighting may occur with the bulls when they are shipped.

Dr. Temple Grandin at Colorado State University works with the cattle industry on humane treatment of animals. She states one case in which a bucking horse suffered a badly broken front leg. Instead of humanely euthanizing the suffering animal, the rodeo people chose to ship her, leg dangling, across two states in a transport truck with other horses. She died before she could be killed at the slaughterhouse.

Dr. Grandin also states that transport injuries and fighting are major causes of injuries in horses. Rodeo animals are constantly in transit.

Steer wrestling also causes injuries and deaths. In this event a steer is forced to run at top speed while a contestant leaps from his horse, grabs the horns of the steer and twists his neck until he falls to the ground.

In one case involving a rodeo steer in Connecticut the steer did not fall when the rider jumped on his head. In response, the competitor violently twisted the steer's head again. When he fell, the steer suffered a broken neck.

A number of cities across the US have passed ordinances eliminating rodeo's tools of torture -- the electric prod, spurs and the flank strap -- all of which use pain to force the animals to "perform." It is no accident that where these devices are eliminated, rodeos disappear. Without torture, there can be no rodeo.

In my opinion, and based on my extensive training and experience, it is impossible to create a humane rodeo.

http://www.sharkonline.org/abuseinherent.mv

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juniperb
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posted August 22, 2006 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
I put both links for both sides of the story... Too many times the animals are mistreated as much as the association would like to keep it a clean rodeo.

I will never endorse attending one.

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salome
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posted August 22, 2006 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for salome     Edit/Delete Message
School District Sued for Bringing Students to Rodeo

San Francisco, CA— In Defense of Animals (IDA), Action for Animals (AFA), and a concerned parent of a student in the San Francisco public school system, have filed for an injunction Thursday against the San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, and Alameda Unified School Districts’ upcoming field trip to the Grand National Rodeo on October 24.

A press conference was held to discuss the injunction on Thursday, October 17 at 12 noon on the steps of Carlton Goodlett Plaza outside City Hall in San Francisco.

Approximately 9,000 students are expected to attend this year’s "Special Arena Performance" at the Cow Palace in San Francisco. Many of them, unfamiliar with rodeos, will be shocked at what they witness. Injuries to rodeo animals are commonplace. The Grand National Rodeo has a long history of animal injuries and deaths.

Horses and cattle have incurred back and neck injuries, torn ligaments and broken bones, and have suffered severed spinal cords and tracheas. In order to make the animals frantic, stock handlers and cowboys provoke the animals with electric prods, kicks, and slaps. Then handlers tighten the "bucking strap," which causes the animal to buck wildly as he leaves the pen. At the 2000 Grand National Rodeo, a bull was killed, which upset and traumatized children and adults who witnessed the event.

Student attendance at the event is not only traumatic, it is also against the law. The California Education Code requires that teachers and teaching materials promote "the humane treatment of living creatures." The Code also specifies that school-sponsored activities off of school premises must not involve animals being injured for "any purpose whatsoever."

"The law requires that we teach our children to treat animals humanely,” said David Blatte, the attorney for the plaintiffs. "As a former high school teacher, I know how impressionable young people are, and I am appalled that the local school districts bring children to the rodeo, which glorifies the inhumane treatment of animals," he continued.

"This is not the lesson we should be teaching our children."

"This field trip is an egregious misuse of school time and taxpayers' money," according to AFA coordinator Eric Mills.

"To expose children to this brutality sends the false message that the mistreatment of innocent animals is acceptable."

"As a veterinarian, it is clear that rodeos teach little more than cruelty and abuse to terrorized animals,” said IDA President Dr. Elliot M. Katz. "Our goal is to reduce violence in schools. Seeing this type of violence toward animals only contributes to it."

http://www.veggieplace.com/animals/articles.asp?cid=270

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maklhouf
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posted August 24, 2006 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maklhouf     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Salome. I suppose I really didn't need to be told. Another dirty secret of the human race.

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salome
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posted August 24, 2006 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for salome     Edit/Delete Message
hi maklhouf ~ no, you don't need to be told, of course you don't.....

i do appreciate knowing that the answers are available here though, for those who might choose to peruse this thread.

thank you for broaching this topic here.

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pidaua
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posted August 24, 2006 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Yuck... I hate reading this stuff, but people have to find out about what really goes on in various industries.

I have never liked horse or dog racing (with the exception of the Weiner dog races because it is actually a fun time for the weiner dogs and happens only once a year in most places). I will never go to a bull fight or the running of the bulls- I think it is actually just desserts when an idiot get a horn up their bum. Rodeo's make ill and I have only seen a couple.

Ick....

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salome
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posted August 24, 2006 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for salome     Edit/Delete Message
they're a way of life in the region where i grew up....i used to get a new outfit to go to the rodeo every year...

one year my dad put my hair in braids for me because he said that's how real cowgirls wear their hair. one of my best memories.

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mysticaldream
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posted August 28, 2006 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mysticaldream     Edit/Delete Message
I've never been to one and honestly had never realized the animals were hurt.

I think it's disgusting people pay to see that.

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