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Mannu
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posted November 14, 2007 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
The Shiva Sutras were bestowed on Vasugupta of Kashmir by Lord Mahadeva himself around 9th century AD. [added later : I mean thats the belief. Shiva is the first master who is believed to have graced earth in flesh and bones. Theres HSC's thread on the Nepal Shaman that is very interesting and collaborates our search]

I have pasted an english translation from the web for you all. Most of what I say here of late these days is borrowed from this teaching. Many have asked me "What do you mean by divinity, etc?". Its best to hear from the horses mouth they say so here it goes.

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Section I - Universal Consciousness

1. Consciousness is the self.
2. (Ordinary) knowledge consists of associations.
3. Sets of axioms generate structures.
4. The ground of knowledge is matrka (Universal Mother note: Unknown, Unrealized Mother in other translation ).
5. The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava.
6. By union with the energy centers one withdraws from the universe.
7. Even during waking, sleep, and deep sleep one can experience the fourth state (transcending consciousness).
8. (Sensory) knowledge is obtained in the waking state.
9. Dreaming is free ranging of thoughts.
10. Deep sleep is maya, the irrational.
11. The experiencer of the three states is the lord of the senses.
12. The domain of the union is an astonishment.
13. The power of the will is the playful uma.
14. The observed has a structure.
15. By fixing the mind on its core one can comprehend perceivable and emptiness.
16. Or by contemplating the pure principle one is free of the power that binds (to associations).
17. Right discernment is the knowledge of the self.
18. The bliss of the sight is the joy of samadhi.
19. The body emerges when the energies unite.
20. Elements unite, elements separate, and the universe is gathered.
21. Pure knowledge leads to a mastery of the wheel (of energies).
22. The great lake (of space-time) is experienced through the power of mantra.

Section II- The emergence of innate knowledge

1. The mind is mantra.
2. Effort leads to attainment.
3. The secret of mantra is the being of the
body of knowledge.
4. The emergence of the mind in the womb
is the forgetting of common knowledge.
5. When the knowledge of one's self arises
one moves in the sky of consciousness
---the Shiva's state.
6. The guru is the means.
7. The awakening of the wheel of
mat\drka (the elemental energies).
8. The body is the oblation.
9. The food is knowledge.
10. With the extinction of knowledge
emerges the vision of emptiness.

Section III- The transformations of the
individual

1. The mind is the self.
2. (Material) knowledge is bondage
(association).
3. Maya is the lack of discernment
of the principles of transformation.
4. The transformation is stopped in
the body.
5. The quieting of the vital channels,
the mastery of the elements, the
withdrawal from the elements, and
the separation of the elements.
6. Perfection is through the veil
of delusion.
7. Overcoming delusion and by
boundless extension innate knowledge is achieved.
8. Waking is the second ray
(of consciousness).
9. The self is the actor.
10. The inner self is the stage.
11. The senses are the spectators.
12. The pure state is achieved by the
power of the intellect.
13. Freedom (creativity) is achieved.
14. As here so elsewhere.
15. Emission (of consciousness) is the
way of nature and so what is not
external is seen as external.

16. Attention to the seed.
17. Seated one sinks effortlessly
into the lake (of consciousness).
18. The measure of consciousness fashions the world.
19. As (limited) knowledge is transcended, birth is transcended.
20. Maheshvari and other mothers (sources) of beings reside in the sound elements.
21. The fourth (state of consciousness) should be used to oil the (other) three
(states of consciousness).
22. Absorbed (in his nature), one must penetrate (the phonemes) with one's mind.
23. The lower plane arises in the center (of the phoneme).
24. A balanced breathing leads to a balanced vision.
25. What was destroyed rises again by the joining of perceptions with the objects
of experience.
26. He becomes like Shiva.
27. The activity of the body is the vow.
28. The recitation of the mantras is the discourse.
29. Self-knowledge is the boon.
30. He who is established is the means and knowledge.
31. The universe is the aggregate of his powers.
32. Persistence and absorption.
33. Even when this (maintenance and dissolution) there is no break (in awareness)
due to the perceiving subjectivity.
34. The feeling of pleasure and pain is external.
35. The one who is free of that is alone (with consciousness).
36. A mass of delusion the mind is subject to activity.
37. When separateness is gone, action can lead to creation.
38. The power to create is based on one's own experience.
39. That which precedes the three (states of consciousness) vitalizes them.
40. The same stability of mind (should permeate) the body, senses and external
world.
41. Craving leads to the extroversion of the inner process.
42. When established in pure awareness, (the craving) is destroyed and the
(empirical)
individual ceases to exist.
43. Although cloaked in the elements one is not free, but, like the lord, one
is supreme.
44. The link with the vital breath is natural.
45. Concentrating on the center within the nose, what use are the left and the right
channels or sushumna?
46. May (the individual) merge (in the lord) once again. OM TAT SAT



There is an excellent book with commentaries here:
http://www.amazon.com/Siva-Sutras-Yoga-Supreme-Identity/dp/8120804074


You may preview the book at google:
http://books.google.com/books?id=j4SOIISR9PUC&dq=siva+sutra&psp=1

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Mannu
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posted November 14, 2007 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
FYI:

There is another "Shiva sutras" which Shiva is known to have narrated to Parvati(or Uma) his wife.

That is excellent as well with no dogmas in them. But I thought this one is a great starter.

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26taurus
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posted November 14, 2007 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for posting them. I'll have to come back when I have more time.

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Mannu
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posted November 14, 2007 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah 26T thats a nice thought.
Time/Focus is absolutely required.

Also I wish there was a enlightened master who can teach them. There are few masters of Shiva sutras in history. They make the teachings come alive and if one listens with concentration they will get enlightened in 7 days. Yeah its that easy.


In India we have 2 groups the one who follows Shiva as supreme and the other who believes Vishnu is supreme. The battle continues till date


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posted November 14, 2007 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message

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posted November 15, 2007 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
Fayte

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Theres another great book on that subject by Laxmanjoo (I think he is no more on earth) One of my gurus recommended to me that book as well:
http://www.amazon.com/Shiva-Sutras-Awakening-Swami-Lakshmanjoo/dp/1434314057/ref=pd_sim_b


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For readers seeking self-knowledge, elightenment or, as was the case with me, sobriety, consider the Vedas -- of which this book is just an extension. With their first written samples being dated about 4,000 years ago -- while Moses walked the streets of Egypt, the foundation of the Shiva Sutras were being written for the first time in India. Arguably, this collection of short translated Sanskrit sayings focus on consiousness and its role in reality. A book that can be opened at any time, anywhere, for finding just the right way to think about what's bothering or troubling you. Shiva is one of many names for God and Sutras means 'Thread'. I learned about this book from Deepak Chopra, who I have to say is one of the Rishis -- back in the flesh. If you have the Gita and Mahabarta around your house, add this one -- it will add back in ways you can't imagine.

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posted November 15, 2007 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
What is the ultimate goal and how do we achieve it? Do we need to work for it in this life, or will it be automatically die and decide we want to let go of "attachment" of this world, and therefor stop reincarnating?

Once we do this, wont we automatically merge into Infinite Consciousness as One?

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posted November 15, 2007 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
No the intelligence of the universe is smart enough, you can't cheat after death.
Elsewhere I said you are God. So you will be asking those same questions and you need to have an answer yourself. It sounds simple, but many are scared at that point of time for reasons plenty.

Though if you remeber a peaceful moment here on earth, you will be at peace on death.
If you struggle here, you will struggle up there.

Theres a shiva sutra phrase that says "Whereever the mind is wandering internally or externally, stay at that place and realize it is truth".

Don't try to control your mind. Let it go whereever it wants to go. Inside your body or outside. Try to remember its source.

See theres no dogma. Religion in LAtin also means to fall back to the self. Over the years it has come to mean to plead guilty, to cry, etc... all nonsensical things if done without understanding.

That sutra is beautiful in the sense, it does not say be sober or don't be alcoholic. It even says u may reach enlightenment while doing sex

Come as you are and try those techniques to find your sElf


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posted November 15, 2007 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
Here goes the one I was referring to before.
See #62. Devi = Uma = Parvati = Shivas wife not devil hehehe....

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Devi Asks:
O Shiva, what is your reality?

What is this wonder-filled universe?

What constitutes seed?

Who centers the universal wheel?

What is this life beyond form pervading forms?

How may we enter it fully,

above space and time,

names and descriptions?

Let my doubts be cleared!

Shiva replies:


1. Radiant One, this experience may dawn between two breaths. After breath comes in (down) and just before turning up (out) - the beneficence.

2. As breath turns from down to up, and again as breath curves up to down - through both these turns, realize.

3. Or, whenever in-breath and out-breath fuse, at this instant touch the energy-less, energy-filled center.

4. Or, when breath is all out (up) and stopped of itself, or all in (down) and stopped, in such universal pause, one's small self vanishes. This is difficult only for the impure.

5. Attention between Eyebrows, let mind be before thought. Let form fill with breath essence to the top of the head and there shower as light.

6. When in worldly activities, keep attention between two breaths, and so practicing, in a few days be born anew.

7. With intangible breath in center of forehead, as this reaches the heart at the moment of sleep, have direction over dreams and over death itself.

8. With utmost devotion, center on the two junctions of breath and know the knower.

9. Lie down as dead. Enraged in wrath, stay so. Or stare without moving an eyelash. Or suck something and become the sucking.

10. While being caressed, Sweet Princess, enter the caress as everlassting life.

11. Stop the doors of the senses when feeling the creeping of an ant. Then.

12. When on a bed or a seat, let yourself become weightless, beyond mind.

13. Or, imagine the five coloured circles of the peacock tail to be your five senses in illimitable space. Now let their beauty melt within. Similarly, at any point in space or on the wall, untill the point dissolves. Then your wish for another comes true.

14. Place your whole attention in the nerve, delicate as the lotus thread, in the center of your spinal column. In such be tansformed.

15. Closing the seven openings of the head with your hands, a space between your eyes becomes all inclusive.

16. Blessed One, as senses are absorbed in the Heart, reach the center of the lotus.

17. Unminding mind, keep in the middle - until.

18. Look lovingly at some object. Do not go to another object. Here in the middle of the object, the blessing.

19. Without support for feet or hands, sit only on the buttocks. Suddenly the centering.

20. In a moving vehicle, by rhythmically swaying, experience. Or in a still vehicle, by letting yourself swing in slowing invisible circles.

21. Pierce some part of you nectar filled form with a pin, and gently enter the piercing and attain to the inner purity.

22. Let attention be at a place where you are seeing some past happening, and even your form, having lost its present characteristics, is transformed.

23. Feel an object before you. Feel the absence of all other objects but this one. Then leaving aside the object-feeling And the absence-feeling, Realize

24. When a mood against someone or for someone arises, Do not place it on the person in question, But remain centered.

25. Just as you have the impulse To do something, Stop.

26. When some desire comes, consider it. Then, suddenly, quit it.

27. Roam about until exhausted and then, dropping to the ground, in this dropping be whole.

28. Suppose you are gradually being deprived of strength or of knowledge. At the instant of deprivation, transcend.

29. Devotion frees.

30. Eyes closed, See your inner being in detail. Thus see your true nature.

31. Look upon a bowl without seeing The sides or the material. In a few moments become aware.

32. See as if for the first time A beauteous person Or an ordinary object.

33. Simply by looking into the blue sky Beyond the clouds, The serenity.

34. Listen while the ultimate mystical teaching is imparted. Eyes still, without blinking, at once, become absolutely free.

35. At the edge of a deep well look steadily into its depths until – the wondrousness.

36. Look upon some object, Then slowly withdraw your sight from it, Then slowly withdraw your thought from it. Then.

37. Devi, Imagine Sanskrit letters in these Honey filled foci of awareness, First as letters, The more subtly as sounds, Then as most subtle feeling. Then, leaving them aside, be free.

38. Bathe in the center of sound, As in the continuous sound of a waterfall. Or, by putting the fingers in the ears, Hear the sound of sounds.

39. Intone a sound, As AUM? Slowly, As sound enters soundfulness, So do you.

40. In the beginning and gradual refinement of the sound of any letter, Awake.

41. While listening to stringed instruments, Hear their composite central sound; Thus omnipresence.

42. Intone a sound audibly, Then less and less audibly As feeling deepens Into this silent harmony.

43. With mouth slightly open, Keep mind in the middle of the tongue. Or, as breath comes silently in, Feel the sound HH.

44. Center on the sound AUM Without any A or M.

45. Silently intone a word ending in AH. Then in the HH, Effortlessly, the spontaneity.

46. Stopping ears by pressing And the rectum by contracting, Enter the sound. 47. Enter the sound of your name And, through this sound, All sounds.

48. At the start of sexual union Keep attentive on the fire in the beginning, And so continuing, Avoid the embers in the end.

49. When in such embrace your senses are shaken as leaves, Enter this shaking.

50. Even remembering union, Without the embrace, Transformation.

51. On joyously seeing a long-absent friend, Permeate this joy.

52. When eating or drinking, Become the taste of food or drink, And be filled.

53. O lotus eyed one, Sweet of touch, When singing, seeing, tasting, Be aware you are and discover the Everliving.

54. Wherever satisfaction is found, In whatever act, Actualize this.

55. At the point of sleep, When the sleep has not yet come And the external wakefulness vanishes, At this point Being is revealed.

56. Illusions deceive, Colors circumscribe, Even divisibles are indivisible.

57. In moods of extreme desire Be undisturbed.

58. This so-called universe Appears as a juggling, A picture show. To be happy, look upon it so.

59. O Beloved, Put attention neither on pleasure nor on pain, But between these.

60. Objects and desires Exist in me as in others. So accepting, Let them be transformed.

61. As waves come with water And flames with fire, So the Universal waves with us.

62. Wherever your mind is wandering, Internally or externally, At this very place, this.

63. When vividly aware Through some particular sense, Keep in the awareness.

64. At the start of sneezing, during fright, In anxiety, above a chasm, flying in battle, In extreme curiosity, at the beginning of hunger, At the end of hunger, Be uninterruptedly aware.

65. The purity of other teachings Is an impurity to us. In reality, Know nothing as pure or impure.

66. Be the unsame same to friend as to stranger, in honor and dishonor.

67. Here is the sphere of change, change, change. Through change consume change.

68. As a hen mothers her chicks, mother particular knowings, particular doings, in reality.

69. Since, in truth, Bondage and freedom are relative, These words are only for those Terrified with the universe. This universe is a reflection of minds. As you see many suns in water from one sun, So see bondage and liberation.

70. Consider your essence as light rays From center to center up the vertebrae, And so rises livingness in you.

71. Or in the spaces between, Feel this as lightning.

72. Feel the cosmos as a translucent ever-living presence.

73. In summer when you see the entire sky Endlessly clear, Enter such clarity.

74. Shakti, See all space as if already Absorbed in your own head In the brilliance.

75. Waking, sleeping, dreaming, Know you as light.

76. In rain during a black night, Enter that blackness As the form of forms.

77. When a moonless rainy night is not present, close your eyes, see blackness. So, faults disappear forever.

78. Whenever your attention alights, At this very point, Experience.

79. Focus on fire rising through your form From the toes up Until the body burns to ashes But not you.

80. Meditate On the make believe world As burning to ashes, And become being above human.

81. As, subjectively, letters flow into words and words into sentences, and as, objectively, circles flow into worlds and worlds into principles, find at last these converging in our being.

82. Feel: my thought, I-ness, internal organs – me.

83. Before desire And before knowing, How can I say I am? Consider. Dissolve in the beauty.

84. Toss attachment for body aside, Realizing I am everywhere. One who is everywhere is joyous.

85. Thinking no thing Will limited-self unlimit.

86. Suppose you contemplate Something beyond perception, Beyond grasping, Beyond not being, you.

87. I am existing. This is mine. This is this. O, beloved, even in such know illimitably.

88. Each thing is perceived through knowing. The self shines in space through knowing. Perceive one being as knower and known.

89. Beloved, At this moment, Let mind, knowing, breath, form, Be included.

90. Touching eyeballs as a feather, Lightness between them opens into the heart And there permeates the cosmos.

91. Kind Devi, Enter etheric presence Pervading far above and below your form.

92. Put mindstuff in such inexpressible fineness Above, below and in your heart.

93. Consider any area of your present form As limitlessly spacious.

94. Feel your substance, Bones, flesh, blood, Saturated with cosmic essence.

95. Feel the fine qualities of creativity Permeating your breasts And assuming delicate configurations.

96. Abide in some place endlessly spacious, Clear of trees, hills, habitations. Thence comes the end of mind pressures.

97. Consider the plenum To be your own body of bliss.

98. In any easy position Gradually pervade an area between the armpits Into great peace.

99. Feel yourself as pervading all directions, Far, near.

100. The appreciation of objects and subjects Is the same for an enlightened As for an unenlightened person. The former has one greatness: He remains in the subjective mood, Not lost in things.

101. Believe omniscient, omnipotent, pervading.

102. Imagine spirit simultaneously Within and around you Until the entire universe spiritualizes.

103. With your entire consciousness In the very start of desire, of knowing, know.

104. O Shakti, Each particular perception is limited, Disappearing in omnipotence.

105. In truth forms are inseparate. Inseparate are omnipresent being And your own form. Realize each as made of this consciousness.

106. Feel the consciousness of each person As your own consciousness. So, leaving aside concern for your self, Become each being.

107. This consciousness exists as each being, And nothing else exists.

108. This consciousness is the spirit of guidance Of each one. Be this one.

109. Suppose your passive form to be an empty room With walls of skin, empty.

110. Gracious One, play. The universe is an empty shell Wherein your mind frolics infinitely.

111. Sweet heartened One, Meditate on knowing and not knowing, Existing and non-existing. Then leave both aside that you may be.

112. Enter space, supportless, eternal, still.


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