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Mannu
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posted July 18, 2006 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
Madonna of the Magnificat (1480-1481) by Sandro Botticelli

Not sure what to think of this. Looks like another treasure for people like us at the Universal forum, so here goes

http://www.simonsays.com/content/book.cfm?tab=1&pid=520380&agid=10

Author Kathleen's website:
www.theexpectedone.com

or read further

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Reading Group Guide The Expected One By Kathleen McGowan

Summary


When journalist Maureen Paschal begins the research for a new book, she has no idea that she is stepping into an ancient mystery so complex and dangerous that thousands of people have killed and died for it. Disturbing visions of a woman in red veils haunt her dreams and color her life, driving Maureen to seek the help of experts on everything from religion to folklore to occult societies. Along with her cousin, Father Peter Healy, and a handful of new friends steeped in the history she finds herself inextricably linked to, Maureen travels to France to unravel the secrets of an undiscovered treasure resting somewhere in the rocky wilds of the French Pyrenees. A series of scrolls written in the first century by Mary Magdalene, these startling documents hold the power to redefine the events and characters of the New Testament. Protected by supernatural forces, the priceless cache can only be uncovered by a special seeker, one who has been chosen for the task by divine providence -- The Expected One. Meanwhile, a renegade and ruthless secret society that has operated throughout Europe and the United States for centuries, The Guild of the Righteous is pathologically obsessed with the treasure. For their own shocking reasons they will stop at nothing to secure the priceless scrolls for themselves -- and eliminate those who oppose them.

Discussion Points

1. Maureen has her students take a vow to remember: "History is not what happened. History is what was written down." She later discusses the importance of "experiential understanding" when touring the Cathar region of Languedoc, France with Jean-Claude. How do you feel about Maureen's approach to studying the past? What are the benefits and drawbacks to relying on oral traditions for information?

2. Maureen's book, Herstory, proposes that, throughout history, male record-keepers and scholars have intentionally slandered women. Identify some of the historically important women mentioned in The Expected One. Discuss and compare their stories as you first learned them to their stories as retold by characters in the novel.

3. Many characters in this novel struggle to reconcile the idea of religion with faith, "Church" with spiritual experience. Describe some of the personal conflicts that these characters encounter, such as Maureen's visions versus her disdain for the Church. What concepts or situations in the novel leave you feeling similarly torn?

4. Father Peter Healy explains, "for people of faith the facts simply don't matter. But don't make the common mistake of confusing faith with ignorance." Do you think his opinion has changed by the end of the novel? Do you think that faith and fact can coexist? What are the dangers of holding to faith to the exclusion of fact, and vice versa?

5. Why do you think the author chose to interject passages from the Arques Gospel of Mary Magdalene, The Book of Disciples, throughout the novel? Discuss how each cited passage relates to the text it precedes.

6. Names are an important factor in genealogy. Identify the characters with names that have significance to the story. For example, Maureen ("Little Mary") and Paschal (which indicates her relation to Mary the Shepherdess and the Expected One prophecy).

7. As she pursues the truth about Mary Magdalene and Jesus, Maureen learns much about the politics of the early Christian movement. Discuss the ways in which politics influenced this novel's version of biblical events.

8. In this novel, both John the Baptist and Jesus are martyred for different reasons and to different effects. How were the deaths of these two critical figures each beneficial and detrimental to the Christian movement as described in the novel?

9. When did you first suspect who the "Messiah" of the Guild of the Righteous was? Were you surprised to learn that followers of John have developed such a different variation of Christianity than followers of the Nazarenes?

10. Tammy and Maureen contemplate the resistance of most theologians to the idea of Jesus as a married man. Tammy says to Maureen, "How does that impact his divinity? I just don't see it." What do you think? Would it change your opinion of Christianity if Jesus married Mary Magdalene and fathered children? Do you think he could have been both the Son of God and a family man? Why or why not?

11. Regardless of his motives, John the Baptist is portrayed as an abusive, controlling husband to Mary. Yet Mary prays for his forgiveness for the rest of her life. Is this a realistic response? Contrast this with Salome, who schemes to have John arrested and whose manipulations ultimately lead to his death.

12. Love and forgiveness are critical elements of Christianity, or "The Way" as the Jesus and Mary Magdalene of this novel taught it. For Maureen, forgiving her cousin Peter for his betrayal seems to come so easily. Which other characters are also in a position to forgive? Which choose to do so and why?

13. It is clear early on that someone is watching Maureen very closely. Were you surprised to find out that it was Peter all along? Did you expect Peter to steal the scrolls to give them to the Church? What clues, if any, did you pick up on throughout the novel?

14. Many of the characters in The Expected One turn out to be quite different than they appear. Which characters' true roles in the plot were you most surprised to discover, and why?

15. If the information presented in this novel turned out to be true, how do you think it would change Christianity? Do you think it could change the world? Why or why not?

16. Every story has two sides. Identify and discuss the alternate views presented in the novel regarding historical figures, events, and works of art or literature such as the execution of John the Baptist, Joan of Arc, da Vinci's "The Last Supper" and Mary Magdalene.

Enhance Your Book Club Experience

Visit the author's website at www.theexpectedone.com to learn more about The Magdalene Line series and the books that influenced the author's research.

Attend a local art exhibit or bring photocopies or printouts of da Vinci's and Botticelli's various works depicting Mary Magdalene, John the Baptist, and Jesus to the next meeting of your reading group. Examine their symbolism together and see if you agree or disagree with the interpretations given in the novel.

Research the Languedoc region of France, the setting for most of The Expected One and the location in which Mary Magdalene is reported to have spent the latter part of her life. You can start with photos and descriptions at www.languedoc-france.info and read more about the Cathar doctrines at www.le-guide.com/catharindex.com

Names are important to Maureen ("Little Mary"), as they provide clues to our genealogy. Have everyone in the group research the origin of his or her name, and then write the history on an index card. Read the cards out loud and have everyone guess which name is which.

The author subtly touches on the controversies surrounding the bestselling novel, The Da Vinci Code, when Maureen explains to her students that she didn't address the issue of Jesus and Mary's potentially intimate relationship because she "doesn't believe there is any evidence to back up those claims." If you've read The Da Vinci Code, compare its version of the Mary Magdalene secrets to those revealed in The Expected One.

If you enjoyed The Expected One, you might try one of the following books. After you've read both have a meeting to discuss them. Which stories, characters, and mysteries did you most appreciate?


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All the answers we need and Truth..are within each and every One of Us..

relax..ask God MOther and Father questions..they will surely be answered..if you really want to know the Truth..?

you can't believe other people..you have to come to your own conclusions..it is the only way..

WE Can and Will figure this all out..if we really want to..Simply. ...

All these posts and discussions..open doorway's to our Soul's memories...

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posted July 18, 2006 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
Indeed scriptures and books by some authors are pointers for all to reach our goal!!!

I did not read completely the authors web site. She seems genuine having spent 20 years researching this subject. She also hates to be called joining the "Da Vinci" bandwagon as her books were released in 2003. So far it sold 25000 copies. I am keen to get my hands on this book.

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http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2006-07-17-magdalene-book_x.htm

Is this woman the living 'Code'?

By Carol Memmott, USA TODAY
Is the world ready for a book and an author more controversial than Dan Brown and The Da Vinci Code?
Meet Kathleen McGowan, novelist and self-proclaimed descendant of a union between Jesus and Mary Magdalene. McGowan, who says she is from the "sacred bloodline" Brown made famous in his mega-selling novel, says she's ready to cope with people who think she's crazy or a heretic.

EXCERPT: Read a preview

But among believers are her powerful literary agent and the editors at New York publisher Simon & Schuster, who are throwing their weight behind her autobiographical religious thriller The Expected One, out July 25, with a sizable first printing of 250,000 copies.

ON DEADLINE: Do you buy the story? Do you buy the book?

"I certainly expect there to be a backlash," says McGowan, 43, a Little League mom from Los Angeles who with her husband, Peter, has three sons: Patrick, 16, Conor, 12, and Shane, 4. "But I have the support of my family and friends and that's what I draw from."

Think of McGowan as an Americanized Sophie Neveu come to life. In Da Vinci Code, Sophie (played by Audrey Tautou in this summer's movie adaptation) is a French woman who discovers she is a descendant of Jesus and Mary — a concept many Christians reject.

The Expected One (Touchstone, $25.95) is being published at a time when religious thrillers are a hot commodity for publishers and fans of Brown, who hunger for suspenseful novels that mix religion, history and conspiracy.

McGowan says her book is not a Da Vinci Code knockoff.

"Everyone's going to think I'm on The Da Vinci Code bandwagon, but I'm not," says McGowan, who began working on her book in 1989. The Da Vinci Code was published in 2003.

McGowan originally self-published her novel last year and it sold only 2,500 copies. Now it's getting a second chance. If the book becomes a best seller, she will join an exclusive group of authors who self-published their books and then were picked up by major publishers. They include John Grisham (A Time to Kill), Richard Paul Evans (The Christmas Box) and James Redfield (The Celestine Prophecy).

Simon & Schuster is spending $275,000 to promote The Expected One and is sending the author on a cross-country tour beginning Aug. 3 in Los Angeles. But when it comes to McGowan's claims about her own bloodline (which she mentions in the novel's afterword), the publisher is treading lightly, with no plans to promote the author's personal story.

"It's an interesting back story, but we're marketing this fabulous novel," says Trish Todd, editor in chief at Touchstone, a division of Simon & Schuster.

Todd says she has no problem believing McGowan's claim that she descends from a marriage between Jesus and Mary Magdalene. "Yes, I believe her. Her passion and her mission are so strong, how can she not be?"

McGowan's novel, like The Da Vinci Code, is replete with conspiracies, hidden documents and a Vatican hierarchy that keeps close watch on individuals searching for secrets hidden for 2,000 years.

But that's where the similarities end. The Expected One is the story of Maureen Paschal, a woman who begins to have visions of Mary Magdalene, discovers she is a descendant of Mary and Jesus and undergoes a dramatic search for a gospel written by Mary that is hidden in southwestern France. In a parallel plot, McGowan tells what she says is the actual story of the marriage and children of Jesus and Mary Magdalene.

The title of the book, she explains, is taken from an ancient prophecy that tells of a woman chosen by divine providence to bring the real story of Mary Magdalene's life to the world.

McGowan calls this a novel but says it mirrors her own life. Maureen's visions, she says, are "verbatim" accounts of her own visions of Mary Magdalene. "Maureen is a fictional character," she says, "but there is a lot of me in Maureen. I know it will be hard for people to accept this, but it's true."

Though McGowan says she is descended from Jesus and Mary Magdalene, she won't say whether she, like the fictional Maureen, is "The Expected One."

"I'm not grandiose about this, and it concerns me a lot that I could be portrayed that way," McGowan says. "I don't want it to appear that I'm standing up and saying I'm the expected one. That's a dangerous, ego-driven kind of thing."

McGowan says she became immersed in the story of Mary Magdalene while researching a non-fiction book on notorious women she believes were "maligned and misunderstood" in traditional accounts written by "the patriarchy that preserves history."

McGowan, a journalist and a third-generation Hollywood native who has worked for various film studios including The Walt Disney Co., says her first vision of Mary Magdalene took place during a visit to Jerusalem in 1997. She experienced vertigo and saw a blinding flash. She then saw Mary Magdalene, surrounded by an angry mob, walking toward the mount where Jesus would be crucified.

It was that vision, McGowan says, that changed her life forever.

"It was so real and so powerful. It was the moment when I knew I would never be able to turn back, when I knew what I was seeing was real and it was true and I was being shown it for a reason and that I had to keep going."

The reason, she believes, is to tell the world the truth about Mary Magdalene, long portrayed by the church as a prostitute.

So far, McGowan is offering only her word about her lineage and only hints at her proof. In addition to the visions, she says, she has discovered that her family is related to an ancient French lineage that traces its roots to Jesus and Mary Magdalene's descendants. Legend holds that Mary Magdalene settled in France after Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection. "That's all I'm prepared to say right now," McGowan says. Some members of her family, she explains, want her to respect their privacy and not discuss it.

Despite the lack of hard evidence, McGowan's supporters include her literary agent Larry Kirshbaum, who left his position as CEO of Time Warner Books in December to start his own literary agency. McGowan was one of his first clients and he helped her get a seven-figure, three-book deal with Simon & Schuster. (Her next two books pick up where The Expected One leaves off.)

Kirshbaum believes McGowan when she says she is a descendant of Mary Magdalene. "I feel she's entirely credible," says Kirshbaum, who read The Expected One after McGowan self-published it last year. "She spent 20 years of her life researching this subject. You have to give her any benefit of the doubt because she's totally rational. I believe her absolutely. She had total credibility with me from the very beginning."

But historians and academics who were skeptical of Dan Brown's presentation of a sacred bloodline are just as wary of McGowan's claims that descendants of Jesus and Mary Magdalene live today.

"A historian simply has to look at what evidence there is," says Bart Ehrman, chairman of the Department of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill and author of Peter, Paul & Mary Magdalene: The Followers of Jesus in History and Legend (Oxford University, $25). "You can survey anyone who is a scholar of early Christianity and they will all tell you the same thing. It's completely bogus."

McGowan says evidence of her ancient French lineage and connections to the sacred bloodline have been passed down through many generations of her family but admits "there are certainly holes in it." Much ancestral documentation, she says, was destroyed during the French Revolution.

Ehrman is doubtful. "People didn't keep genealogies like that in the ancient world. There are no records. We have no account of Mary Magdalene even going to France until the Middle Ages, and the legend about her going to France sprang up because there was a cult to Mary Magdalene in southern France and they used the story about her going there as a way to explain the origins of the cult."

McGowan originally planned to write The Expected One as non-fiction but says she couldn't make public the sources she developed while researching and writing her book. Without incontrovertible proof, McGowan may have problems with her credibility.

"I'm always a little suspicious when people say, 'I've got all this information but I just can't tell you. If you only knew, then you'd believe it, too. So just take my word for it.' That's not how scholarship works," says Marvin Meyer, a professor of Bible and Christian Studies at Chapman University in Orange, Calif. He's a recognized authority on the Gnostic gospels and author of The Gospels of Mary: The Secret Tradition of Mary Magdalene, the Companion of Jesus (HarperSanFrancisco, $12.95).

Meyer says he finds McGowan's claims "to be intriguing pieces of speculation, but in my opinion there is no historical evidence that would suggest that Jesus and Mary had any children or that a child or children grew up in France and then moved throughout Europe. It's a good story, it's a wonderful legend. I don't see any history to it."

McGowan has heard no comments from the Catholic Church about her book or her claims about her lineage since she self-published the book.

"Of course, then I was self-published and not a big fish and not threatening," she says. "It will be very interesting to see if they treat me in the same way now that the book is coming out internationally in 25 countries."


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posted July 21, 2006 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
Posting the picture above.

Well I am not so excited about reading following review on amazon by a user. What do you say

Magdalene to contain any truth to it ...

1. John the Baptist was a celibate Essene. Many, many books and writings support this and it is considered to be the truth. In Ms. McGowan's book, John is depicted as Magdalene's first husband, who beat her and who also doubted Christ's mission and thought that John himself was the true Messiah. John is the way-shower, not only did he declare that Jesus was the "one to come" but he also baptized him and witnessed the Sophia-Ruach (the holy breath) energy descend down on Jesus at the moment of this holy initiation.

2. Magdalene in Ms. McGowan's book receives John the Baptist's head and then carries it with her, like a form on pentinence, for her guiltiness in John's death. Mary Magdalene has enough issues waited on her historically, why add this misconception on her? MM is often pictured with a skull in gnostic paintings, there are many reasons for this, the general explaination is that is depicts temporal wisdom.

3. In Ms. McGowan's book, JC leaves the baptism and goes and touches some lepors, which receives John the Baptist's scorn, that JC certainly could not be the Messiah. The TRUTH is that after Jesus was baptized by John, he went into the wilderness for 40 days and 40 nights to encounter the 7 powers of wrath and the devil, where he would be tempted from his true mission and calling. This is a very important episode mystically in the Bible as it is the "magical" and "shamanistic" part of the mysteries.

4. Jesus said about his home town of Nazareth, that a prophet is never accepted in his home town. Ms. McGowan has got him rolling into Nazareth like some kind of big homecoming party. If you consult your Bible, you will find that Jesus was practically thrown off a cliff by his towns-people in Nazareth.

5. The author claims to be from the bloodline of Mary Magdalene. Truly, in reality, we have no way of knowing if Mary Magdalene ever really existed at all. We don't know if Magdalene was really her surname or a title. We don't know if she was actually from Magdala, or if the town even existed at all. We don't have any record if she was Greek, Egyptian, from India, Jewish, etc. If she was Jewish, we have no idea which tribe she would have been assigned to. There are books that purport her to be from the tribe of Dan, but there is not a shread of proof to back this up. So, for Ms. McGowan to claim that she is from the bloodline of Mary Magdalene can only be an untruth. A final note about bloodlines, it is an elitist thing to claim, that a bloodline is more holy, or more divine than any other spiritual seeker.

6. The whole story of the book revolves around what the author is calling "the ring of a cosmologist". The ring the author has described in the book is one of the most common relics from the holy land, a pilgrim rosary ring. That the ring is depicted in many religious paintings is the truth, as it symbolizes devotion to the Mother of God and her rosary, it has nothing to do with Mary Magdalene.

7. The title of the book, The Expected One, would lead the casual observer to think that the author is talking about the Messiah to come. She is not. She is talking about the coming again of "Maria Nigrens" - Black Mary, whom since the author is claiming she is from the bloodline of MM, I can only assume that she means herself.

8. Throughout the book the author makes the claim that when you see a finger pointed up in a religous painting, that this secretly means "devotion to John the Baptist as the true Messiah". The forefinger is the finger of miracles, the finger of manifestation, the true meaning - to be touched by God.

9. In the book, Ms. McGowan talks about a society called "The Teacher of Righteousness". She claims that it is an evil society that believes that John is the Messiah. The term "Teacher of Righteousness" comes from Essene literature from the Dead Sea Scrolls. These writings on the Teacher of Righteousness are truly exciting material, as they show that the Essenes absolutely believed and were waiting for the Messiah. Many scholars and writers of texts on the Dead Sea have included whole chapters to these texts, as they relate these texts to the New Testament in the Bible and the idea that the prophecy of the Messiah to come had a history pre the New Testament information.

I did not even enjoy this book as a fictional read, as the character of Mary Magdalene was too weak for me. She is too demuring and depicted like a love struck girl. This is the woman who authored the Gospel of Mary, asked more questions in the Pistus Sophia that any other disciple and may have authored Thunder, Pefect Mind, the forth Gospel & even Revelations. Mary Magdalene is the Teacher of the Teachers. She is a commanding figure that spoke and taught the other disciples, she may be the only disciple who actually "got" what Christ was all about.

Ms. McGowan has claimed that the Arguas Gospel of Mary Magdalene is the truth, and that those who do not believe her are followers of John the Baptist. I am not a "follower of John the Baptist", however, I can not just believe because the author declares the Arguas Gospel of Mary Magdalene to be the truth. It did not strike me as the truth as I was reading the book, I felt very deeply that it was misinformation and the book left me feeling quite depressed.

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posted July 21, 2006 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
And the next user says "How do you know so much about this book when it hasn't even been released yet? Your arguements are invalid. "


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posted July 23, 2006 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting, Mannu!

You're certainly up to something busy at the moment will reply later

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posted July 23, 2006 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
Cool!!!BTW yesterday July 22 was her feast day.... I was thinking about her most of the time.

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posted July 27, 2006 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thorshammer     Edit/Delete Message
Kathryn is the true one. All those that talked negativity about her in the past...what a shame, she is a magnificient woman and look at what she is doing.

She is definately leaving off where Linda stopped.

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posted July 27, 2006 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Petron     Edit/Delete Message
she's a kNOWflake huh?

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000100.html

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posted August 02, 2006 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message

Mannu...

Are you reading the book? It is a great read... you'll be surprised; I am still reading it, not finished yet. I will be posting my thoughts soon...

Actually, the author of this book was inspired by Linda Goodman... and she is a knowflake here at Lindaland...Read the site that Petron posted... She also goes on explainig that Crystal Bush (who is in charge of Linda's works), Linda's so called "friend" is a liar

Thanks, Petron for posting the info...

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posted August 02, 2006 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Yes..Kathleen..continue's Linda's work..as she had left it! I think everyOne should read this book. ...Linda had the information she needed for that lifetime..
things evolve... .

Hey..Silverstone..WE're in a heatWave here in NH..want to go Smurfin?

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Hi Silverstone,
I am glad you are getting a kick out of reading. I kindda guessed it and so posted this here

Fiction or not, I do plan to read the book. I believe there always comes good or bad in all events.

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I like the smurfs! My favorite cartoons since I was a kid! Yeah lets go Smurfin....

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posted August 02, 2006 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
hehe..Yeah!

you know..I was thinking about John the Baptist..is he Jesus' father? Or twin brother..
Set?
for some reason I think of Judas as his Dad..and that he died on the cross..?

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Anyone reading this book?

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From The Expected One by Kathleen McGowan

"I owe a debt to the illustrious ram queen, Linda Goodman, the late astrologer and author who first whispered this secret into my ear long before I was ready to comprehend it. She altered the course of my life with that piece of information, and by leaving me her Emerald Tablet translations (which will show their importance in later books) My destiny remains strangely intertwined with Linda's, a fact that has brought both surprising pain but also great joy. I wish she had stayed with us long enough to see the proof I uncovered of her own bloodline connections.
I am also grateful that the path through Linda's life brought me to another great author and astrologer, Carolyn Reynolds. Carolyn was my rock through some very dark days with her battle cry of "No one can steal your destiny." Dedication to Linda Goodman she notes in her book and also here in Lindaland: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000100-2.html

…All these years later and it is no easier to write of Judas Iscariot than it was in the dark days. Not because I hold any judgment against him, but rather because I do not.
I will tell the story of Judas and hope to do with justice. He was a man uncompromising in his principles, and those who follow us must know this: he did not betray those—or us—for a bag of silver. The truth is that Judas was the most loyal of the twelve. I have had so many for grief these years past, and yet I think there is but One whom I mourn tan Judas.
There are many who would have me write harshly of Judas—to condemn him as a betrayer, as a traitor, as one who was blind to the truth. But I can write none of those things for they would be lies before my pen touched the page. Enough lies will be written about our time, God has shown me that. I will not write more.
For what is my purpose, if not to tell the whole truth of what occurred then?

THE ARQUES GOSPEL OF MARY MAGDALENE,
THE BOOK OF DISCIPLES


…I have known Peter since my earliest memories, as his father and mine were friends, and as he was very close to my brother. The temple at Capernaeum was near to the home of Simon-Peter’s father and it was a place we visited often as children. I remember playing a game there, along the shore. I was far younger than the boys and I often played alone, but the sound of their laughter as they wrestled with each other is something I can still remember.
Peter was always the more serious of the boys, his brother Andrew having a lighter heart. And yet there was humor in both of them when they were young. Peter and Andrew lost the lightness entirely after Easa was gone, and they had little patience of those who clung to it for survival.
Peter was much like my own brother in that he took his family responsibilities very seriously, and as he grew into manhood, he transferred that sense of responsibility to the teachings of The Way. He had a strength and singleness of purpose that was unmatched by any but the teachers themselves—this is why he was trusted so highly. Yet as much as Easa taught him, Peter struggled against his own nature more ferociously than most people would ever know. I believe that he gave up more of himself, more internal change. Peter will be misunderstood and there are those who bear him ill. But I do not.
I love Peter and trusted him. Even with my oldest son.

THE ARQUES GOSPEL OF MARY MAGDALENE,
THE BOOK OF DISCIPLES

…Sarah-Tamar comes often and reads my memories while I write. She has reminded me that I have not yet explained about Peter and what is known as his denial.
There are some who judged him harshly and would call him Peter in Gallicantu—Peter in Denial—but that is unfair. What those who pass judgment cannot know is that Peter did nothing but fulfilled a prophecy made by Easa, that Easa said to Peter, “You will deny me,” and Peter said, “No, I will not.”
This is the truth. Easa instructed Peter to deny him. It was not a prophecy. It was a command. Easa knew that if the worst happened, he would need Peter, of all his trusted disciples, to remain safe. Through Peter’s determination, the teachings would continue to spread across the world as Easa had always dreamed. And so Easa told him, “You will deny me,” but Peter in his torment said, “No I cannot.”
But Easa continued, “You must deny me so that you will be safe and the teachings of The Way will continue.”
This is the truth of Peter’s “denial.” It was never a denial since he followed the orders of his teacher. Of this I am certain, for I was there and I witnessed.


THE ARQUES GOSPEL OF MARY MAGDALENE,
THE BOOK OF DISCIPLES

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posted August 13, 2006 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for posting that Silverstone
I want this book!

Soon you know..they will find MOther Mary's diary..this will reveal many Truth's...

LOts of LOve and Light to EveryOne. ...

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posted August 13, 2006 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Continue from The Expected One:

…I am told by many of this man who was called Paul. He caused great turmoil among the elect, and some journeyed the long distance from Rome as well as Ephesus to consult me on this man and his words.
It is not for me to judge, nor can I say what was in his soul as I did not encounter him in the flesh and did not look into his eyes. But I can say with certainty that this man Paul never met Easa and that I was most distressed to hear that he would speak for him and all that he taught of the light and goodness that is The Way.
There were many things about this man I believed to be dangerous. He was allied with the harshest flowers of John, all men who held Easa in great contempt. They opposed the teachings of The Way as it was given to us by him. I am told that he was once known as Saul of Tarsus and was a man who persecuted the elect. He stood by while a young follower of Easa, a beautiful young man called Stephen who had a heart filled with love. Was crushed with stones. That man was the first after Easa to die for his faith in The Way. But he would be far from the last. Because of men like Saul of Tarsus.
There was much to beware of there.

THE ARQUES GOSPEL OF MARY MAGDALENE,
THE BOOK OF DISCIPLES

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posted August 13, 2006 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
So Silverstone what page are you on? Is Mary Magdalene really depicted as a love stuck girl between John and Jesus?

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posted August 13, 2006 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, Mannu!

Page 207. I still got a lot to go... Some info sounds interesting. A lot of the info I have read from this book I have already read in other books; some of the info has also already been reviewed here in LL, but it is still worth the read.. a lot rings true to me; again, I am not finished. I guess I would have finished only that I am also reading Shaman's Path by Gary Doore.

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posted August 13, 2006 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Silverstone..could you please share..some of the stuff you found interesting?

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posted August 13, 2006 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lotus,

I am still reading! I haven't seen you in awhile, I thought maybe you went and got married and went to a honeymoon or something...LOL

Cheers,

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posted August 13, 2006 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
you are very funny Silverstone!

No..I was on one of my hermit re-treats..hehe

I do not believe she has the whole Truth..
some, but not all..for all could not be revealed yet..so..you see..

the saga continues. ...

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posted August 13, 2006 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Ok- I know this is but a few things...

Lotus,
I was kidding so:

Mannu,

Hey, Mannu, while revisiting past posts I saw that I missed this. Why did you change your name? I am also curious to know what your name was before Mannu... Just wondering…

From Juniperb to Mannu:

posted April 07, 2006 01:12 PM

Topic: Jesus and the Crucifixion--- Feedback, please

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Note to Mannu, aha old Friend! In reading your former post, the energy signature shone thru. I like your new name.

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