posted March 11, 2007 11:45 AM         

Posting the photo of himself only proves my point further: EGO DOMINATION is all one can see there.
I will continue to post and ignore him. Furthermore I know that you and others understand that I posted the link to the Christ Letters here as a blessing and a gift, for each to either take or leave, at one's choosing.
I can tell you this, the Recorder of the Christ Letters is quoted in books written by Masters who have since Ascended. She is a highly respected individual in the world at large, projecting a high degree of spirituality and extending an immense blessing to many by sharing her communication with Jesus the Christ. She is not a FAKE! http://www.christsway.co.uk

posted March 11, 2007 11:53 AM         

'I would that you could see and experience the world as it really could be for you. The living world, the entire creation ringing with joy. Your world has been created by LOVE, designed by LOVE to meet the personal needs of every single living entity as it has evolved over the millions of years of existence. If only you could become aware of this glorious joy and glowing LOVE as you walk in your garden or countryside.

If only you could enter into the consciousness of a magnificent tree as it stands straight and tall, spreading its branches for the birds to alight upon it and make their nest. If only you could enter into the consciousness of a bird as it finds the best nesting place, experience its pleasure and feel its love for the tree which provides a home and shade.

Everywhere, there is a reciprocity of love flowing between living things, plants, insects, birds, animals, fish, and their environment. Only the predators put themselves outside this love consciousness.

Study the eyes of the predators, one and all, and compare their fierce intensity with the eyes of the non-violent herb and grass eaters –there you will see the ferocity of the one and the tranquillity of the other.

As I said when I lived on your earth:

'The eyes are the lamp of the soul' And what you have not realized is that all eyes radiate to the world the inner quality of being. They radiate the inner consciousness which blesses what it sees – or shrivels it up with its own bad temper.

When you live entirely in your human consciousness, your thoughts, habitual modes of speech, your continual assessment of people and externals, you are unable to partake in this JOY of EXISTENCE which spontaneously wells up in the consciousness of all non-violent living things - felt by all peaceful living things, - unless denied sustenance by drought.

You cannot feel it because your minds have developed along the lines of logic and reason and you act according to your will, imagination, desires and ego - and all of this mental actvity blocks your spiritual mind at the top of your head; it prevents sixth sense contact with the beautiful world in which you live and which you do not remotely understand at all. You can see the bodies and the activities of insects, birds and animals, but you cannot enter into the consciousness of their mostly innocent, uncontaminated vitalizing life force.

You may think their consciousness is possibly like yours. But you would be wrong - because all living things other than humans, live by intuition - and communicate in a way which is impossible to humans. Yes, they communicate very clearly - over long distances. Yes, they communicate and rejoice together, more than you'll ever know.

It is the Hermit who sits with his begging bowl and meditates who may soar into infinity and experience the joy and the glory of Divine Consciousness in which WE, you and I, ALL live and draw our eternal life and being. The Hermit can experience it in the silence and stillness of his mind, and can be uplifted into such ecstasy that he has no need of worldly living - indeed, he runs away from it.

People will say: "How wonderful, he has given up his life for God". But this is an erroneous perception. He gives up normal daily living to find the TRUE LIFE of GLORY out of which all creation has taken its form and being. There can be no greater experience of a glowing radiance and spiritual ecstasy than this.

But - it is escapism offering great rewards and also defeating the purposes of existence in your world.
It is marvellous and wonderfully uplifting to rest in the effulgence of absolute Love and Tranquillity for a while and possess knowledge of this wonderful dimension of eternity for yourself. Here your mind may enter into transcendent facets of universal knowledge.

YOUR HUMAN LIFE TAKES ON NEW LUSTRE, LIGHT AND JOY AND GREATER MEANING. But it is not your true purpose in life.

Your true purpose on earth is to EXPRESS in thoughts, words, deeds and desires the DIVINITY in which you have your being.

You can do this through meditation, through cleansing your mind of negative thoughts, by reaching out to others during the day to offer them a smile of friendliness, recognition of their being - that they too are ALIVE and are therefore important - co-existent with yourself, no matter what their status is in life.

What a tremendous joy it is to be able to love the man who has come down to rags, possessing nothing of material things, forced to live by begging - just as much as you may be able to love the man who has made untold wealth, prestige, and lives a life envied by others. This ability to love each and everyone without reservations, is indeed DIVINE LOVE - pure unconditional love. It is a quality of mind and heart where all sense of superiority or inferiority no longer exists.

"Why should this bring one so much joy?', you may ask.

It gives you joy beyond all imagining because you have risen high above the demands and critical senses of the self which judge and demean others.

What tremendous liberation of spirit you will experience when you can, at last, be insulted or defrauded by another but can still look through his words and actions and perceive his basic divinity. You now rest in a state of pure tranquil acceptance of what the human world may try to do to you and you never cease smiling - because yours is a world of sunshine and spiritual light created by the Divine –
and you are aware that those who try to hurt you have not yet managed to find this sacred world conceived and fashioned by Pure Love.

Knowing this so surely, so clearly, how can you NOT have only the deepest compassion and concern for them as they struggle, sometimes bravely , with their enmeshing ego?

As you learn to love all states of human being equally, you will come to intuit the actual state of earthly being of each person and will be able to perceive for yourselves what is valuable in life and what is mere ego 'frosting' for comfort and prestige.

You will no longer be led astray – or even moved – by outward show.

If you study Letters 4A and 4B, you will be able to clearly see exactly why I say the world is made by LOVE, IN LOVE and sustained by LOVE. When you fully understand why this is so, it is possible that you will go further in realization and will see that to entertain any thoughts contrary to LOVE shuts you out of the basic Reality of Existence - it places you in a shadowy world where you can no longer see the world created by Divine Consciousness after the Big Bang - you can only see the IMAGES of that living world and cannot feel their joy.

Dwell for a moment on your world as it is today - the average mentality of men and women governed by ego - and then think of the joy and beauty of WHAT REALLY IS just beyond your normal vision - out of sight because of human thought - and HUMAN BEHAVIOUR.

All of my Letters are directed only at helping you lift yourselves out of any present misery you may be enduring and to make genuine contact with Divine Consciousness which will immediately set about rebuilding your health, strength and inner direction towards higher goals of existence. You can come out of your hell - but only YOU can do it for yourself. YOU must do the work initially but you can invite Divine Consciousness to enter your mind and heart and give you added strength to ensure you succeed.

As more and more people of a like-spirituality and spiritual perception bond together to seek the Kingdom of Heaven on earth, so will there be little pockets of spirit luminescence lighting up that dark world of yours, inviting more and more of its members to join you in your happiness.

How do you cleanse your consciousness? Remember that if you rely ONLY on your own human consciousness, you are calling up your ego to drive away your ego thoughts - and this is impossible. Ego cannot overcome ego. You have to wake up to the realization that above the human consciousness is the Super Consciousness of Divine Consciousness described in Letters 4A and B, 5 and 6. In Letter 4 B - page 21-24.

You will never be able to enter into the consciousness of plant and insect life, because yours is a world of logical thought. But you can enter into Heaven on earth by learning how to get in touch with Divine Consciousness and inviting It to fill your mind and heart, giving new direction to your thought life – and then to your future life and activities as well.

I long for you to find true freedom from the ego and enter into the transcendent joy of Divinity whilst still on earth."

From CHRIST'S LETTERS--CHRIST'S WAY

moiraHISbeloved ~
Knowflake Extraordinaire _()_

posted March 12, 2007 05:57 AM         

the majority

of people

on this site

are fake and two-faced...

GOD Sees and Knows
all, all is recorded...
you cannot escape your deeds...

Some day you will have to face GOD...

why not know GOD now?

each are equal..GOD only enteres into
equal partnerships...

no One, is excluded....

posted March 14, 2007 11:52 PM         

Moira,

>>>we are all gods/ goddesses in potentia.

So well said and I totally agree to that.
I have yet to complete all those wonderful links that you have pasted.

And I also get a feeling reading from those two posts earlier that you have a great attitude.

I am too busy with work these days until April. Hope from May I can do what I want

Cheers,
Mannu

Lotusheartone,
Those words are personal attack on people.

posted March 16, 2007 12:23 PM         

Indeed, Amethyst is a lovely Soul who shared Inspiration here at LL.

A quick look around O&H will show her depth and sincerity.

We should always remember it is the message not the messenger that we are in disagreement with....

Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unaware.

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

posted March 16, 2007 12:31 PM         

Quote:

Your true purpose on earth is to EXPRESS in thoughts, words, deeds and desires the DIVINITY in which you have your being.

You can do this through meditation, through cleansing your mind of negative thoughts, by reaching out to others during the day to offer them a smile of friendliness, recognition of their being - that they too are ALIVE and are therefore important - co-existent with yourself, no matter what their status is in life.

posted March 16, 2007 02:20 PM         

Well, then I DEFINITELY have a problem with that MESSAGE.

And if THAT'S an "Angel", then I'm with Fayte on the "Angel" issue.

posted March 16, 2007 03:50 PM         

Moira has found something that makes her happy. she posted a link to share with others. HSC attacked that in an individual thread calling something dear to her heart an 'imposter'.

all of the unpleasantries here are unnecessary. there are kind ways to disagree with someone and there are harsh ways.

posted March 16, 2007 04:19 PM         

Moira posted a link to a website that is very important to her. HSC made a concerted effort to trash that person and her website.

if you wish to be cruel, and continue in the parade of cruelty, then i suppose you will. or not. and whether i change your mind or not is of no consequence to me.

posted March 17, 2007 12:34 AM         

My mind thinks that one who claims to be Christ's voice has the absolute responsibility to be that voice in a perfect sense. Jesus is supposed to be perfect, therefore someone claiming to be his voice ought to communicate Jesus perfectly. To me, that's only logical.

If the communication is not perfectly aligned with Jesus' ideas, and yet the claim persists that this is Jesus' voice, then I think exposing it in any manner is justified.

posted March 17, 2007 12:47 AM         

it doesn't excuse the rudeness in what was done.

there is tolerance on this website for those with differing opinions. there is room for civil disagreement for differing opinions.

it seemed there was a question not too long ago about someone wishing to 'save' the rest of the group from your 'incorrect' opinions. you were well defended in your right to be allowed to post what is truth to you.

so should someone be allowed to post a website here without fear of being attacked for it.

posting private emails isn't a wise or kind thing to do. neither is calling someone an imposter and liar in the title of a thread.

posted March 17, 2007 01:28 AM         

If someone were masquerading as your mother, and your friend had evidence that she wasn't actually your mother, would you want to know? Would you want to know in great detail why your friend believed your mother to be an imposter, or would you prefer that your friend be vague about it, maybe not bring it up at all?

posted March 17, 2007 01:38 AM         

I appreciate that you are defending what you believe to be a good cause. I think, as AG said, it is important to consider my intentions. Let's look at what happened, in the order in which it happened...

Moira posted the link. I warmly thanked her for sharing (something most people rarely do). I appreciated her intention. I investigated. I came upon a sentence, on the website, which, in no uncertain terms, stated that people who are not spiritually evolved "deserve" to suffer. This is what I read, and it hurt me to read it, and to think how many people read it, and think these are the words of the Son of God. I wrote to the Recorder, hoping she could clear it up. I figured it was probably a mistake. She then admitted to me (again, in no uncertain terms) that she is distorting the true message of Christ, that she considers the people she "ministers" to as being unevolved, and that the only way she feels she can get them to listen to her is to agree with them that people who cause suffering deserve to suffer. But this is no small distortion. The entire message of Christ is that people who "sin" and cause suffering, are ill, and in need of a spiritual physician. They should be pitied, prayed for, healed, and instructed, not blown up. That was His message.

Evidently, you feel I was being harsh and "vicious" (ouch!) in terming her an "imposter" and a "liar", despite the fact that she is posing as something she knows she is not, and knowingly lying about it. (This is not a case of differing opinions about Christ, this is a case of conscious misrepresentation.) Oddly, you seem to have no problem with Moira, when she calls me an imposter (and a few other nasty names), in addition to making various negative statements about the state of my soul, despite the fact that I have never claimed to be the voice of the living God.

All I have ever done to Moira (besides thanking her for sharing the link) is attempt to reveal to her the INDISPUTABLE FACT (I have the woman's confession, "for Christ's sake"!) that she is being misled.

What the Recorder is doing is highly unethical. If I did not share the things she told me, I would technically be an accomplice. I am not a psychologist, and I never took any oath to keep her dirty little secrets. I dont know why you want to condemn me for reporting a crime, and calling an imposter an imposter. If you disapprove so much of me, you ought to disapprove of Moira and the Recorder a great deal more; unless, of course, you are totally swayed by your personal allegiances, and entirely incapable of objective thought.

I honestly believe I have stated in this post exactly what happened, without bias. If I have spoken anything untrue, please, point it out to me, and I will be happy to correct it.

posted March 17, 2007 01:47 AM         

a lot of people here have widely differing ideas about who jesus was and what he said and did, including linda goodman, with whom many people do not agree. calling them liars and imposters is not in the spirit of this board.

posted March 17, 2007 02:06 AM         

sorry i missed the post Hsc where you thanked Moira so profusely for posting her link.

Moira made a thread in reply to a rude thread attacking a website that she shared here that is important and meaningful to her. at first she was berated for having done so, after a slight number of posts.

now you are giving her permission to respond.

HSC, i did not condemn you, nor have i said anything about disapproving of you.

every post that i've previously directed your way is one of admiration and positivity, so personal allegiances have nothing to do with anything here.

posted March 17, 2007 03:54 AM         

If that is your real name, lol...

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i'm not questioning anyone's actions. neither was i supporting what Moira said to HSC.

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You could have fooled me, -
in fact you did fool me,
and everyone else who read your posts.

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sorry i missed the post Hsc where you thanked Moira so profusely for posting her link.

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Nice sarcasm. No need to apologize, though. I never said "profusely", I said "warmly". And I did not mean to imply that you should have seen it. I was just trying to let you know what actually happened, as it is contrary to your stated view. I only toot my own horn when people accuse me of having nothing to toot about.

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Moira made a thread in reply to a rude thread attacking a website that she shared here that is important and meaningful to her.

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Okay, so you clearly disagree with the explanations I gave. But you are unwilling, or unable, to say why. Instead, you are content to just repeat your accusations against me, without taking into account any of the new information I provided. You think I was "rude" to expose a fraud. This is your position, am I right?

Let's try this again:

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Moira made a thread in reply to a rude thread attacking a website that she shared here that is important and meaningful to her.

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Correction:
Moira made a rude thread, attacking me for exposing her opportunistic guru for the predatory mega-fraud that she is, despite my good intentions, and despite the proof I supplied in support of my claims. I understood that the website is meaningful to her, and that it would come as a great disillusioning shock to her to discover that the author of the website is a charlatan. Evidently, the shock is so great that she is still in denial about it. I understand that. I have sympathy for that. But if you need to blame someone, blame the woman who tricked her. Don't shoot the messenger who tried to help her.

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HSC, i did not condemn you, nor have i said anything about disapproving of you.

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Okay, perhaps "condemn" was a bit much. I retract it. And perhaps it was not me, but only my words and actions which you disapproved of. I retract that as well. But I still can't see what grounds you have for disapproving of anything I have said or done.

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every post that i've previously directed your way is one of admiration and positivity, so personal allegiances have nothing to do with anything here.

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I appreciate that,
but I am perplexed by your utter disregard of everything I just said in my last post.

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everyone knows here as well that your objective thought is so far beyond the rest of us that we all should just bow in acknowledgement of your ascended genius. you've stated and re-stated that several times.

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I never stated anything of the sort. Yes, I have been frank about my suspicion that I am probably more capable of abstract reasoning than the other people on this forum. I have seen no evidence to the contrary in the several years I have been posting and reading posts here. Other people here are of the same opinion. Is it necessarily arrogant of me to say so myself? I don't think so. And I never said anyone should "bow down to me", lol, and acknowledge my "ascended genius". I don't think I ever claimed to be a genius, although I do suspect that I am possessed of a kind of genius, and many, many people have tried very hard to confirm me of this opinion, despite all my self-doubt. I have asked that people not accuse me of arrogance for stating these suspicions (which are probably true, and which, to the best of my knowledge, do not occassion any feelings of arrogance in me), or for having the courage of my convictions to say that I am right when I do indeed believe I am right. I have asked that people not dismiss my arguments just because I claim to know what I know. If they wish to dismiss them because they cannot see the logic in them, that is another matter. I have no objection to that.

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so there's really no point in disputing your position, which i haven't attempted to do.

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I agree, you haven't.
You have only ignored the facts and logic
I carefully and patiently set before you,
and proceeded to reiterate your unfair claims,
without making a case to support them.
Whatsmore, you seem very proud of yourself.
Good for you.