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lotusheartone
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posted October 16, 2008 07:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in my digging for the 13th sign, and perhaps 14th, Arachne...I found the Cathars, and Weavers...Kathleen brought
up the Cathars in her book The Expected One..

here's the first video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyHoHgOKMlc

I'll go watch and retrieve the second one, now. ...

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lotusheartone
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posted October 16, 2008 07:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here's the second one..it reminds me of Revelation...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufubyyTi1EY&feature=related

All my love, with all my heart
To ALL. ...

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lotusheartone
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posted October 16, 2008 09:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathars

I really think there is more to find here...hmmm

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lotusheartone
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posted October 16, 2008 09:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh, what have I gone and done, now!?
I am spinning, once again...

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_autor_whenry04.htm

one thing leads to another, and another,
and another...I truly don't think it ever
ends, it is eternal..it's a circle, hehe
ride the carousel
with me...

All my love, with all my heart
To ALL. ...

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silverstone
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posted October 20, 2008 11:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BUMP

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lotusheartone
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posted October 31, 2008 01:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am surprised by the dis-Interest in this...
it's important...
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Cathars

All my love, with all my heart
To ALL. ...

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lotusheartone
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posted October 31, 2008 04:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here's another link...
http://www.rotten.com/library/religion/cathars/

The Truth is, Jesus did not die on the cross, that NO ONE can take on your Sins..
each is responsible for his/her actions..Karma, cannot be put onto another
being, this is false..
and the Vatican knows it!

All my love, with all my heart
To ALL. ...

P.S. Who did Jesus fight on the Mount..
HimSelf, his shadow Self, Lucifer...Devil..
not Satan, for I believe Satan to be the female shadow, as in Santa=Satan, Mr. and Mrs. Claus, and a loop-Hole...

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lotusheartone
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posted October 31, 2008 04:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and 666, the beast, IS MAN and WOMAN. ...

and 666 is probably the DOB, of Jesus...
we know when Cleopatra and Julius Ceasar were born, but we do not know the date of Jesus' birth, that does not make sense...

All my love, with all my heart
To ALL. ...

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juniperb
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posted October 31, 2008 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The Cathars also held many beliefs that were odious to the rest of medieval society. They believed that Jesus had been an apparition, a ghost, that showed the way to God. They refused to believe that the good God could or would come in material form, since all physical objects were tainted by sin.

As close as I`ve heard it put. Rather than ghost/apparition as we know the definitions, Jesus`s body was made of Light and Spirit.

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

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lotusheartone
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posted October 31, 2008 04:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
are we not ALL?

for God only enters into equal partnerships..ALL were/are
created equal...

He was a man, simply..

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lotusheartone
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posted October 31, 2008 06:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
video on Santa=Satan...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mii9jjszgp0

All my love, with all my heart
To ALL. ...

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lotusheartone
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posted October 31, 2008 06:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and here's another interesting video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siEPcvfzXKo

okay, now back to topic...

The Cathar's and Templar Knights were
slaughtered, because they carried the
Truth...
and The Roman Catholic church did this..
to keep control and power in their hands..
through Fear..creating a False God of Wrath..

The Truth is Simple, as Above, so Below
but opposite..Angel form in Heaven=OverSoul...
and Devil form on Earth=Hell, Mind Body and Soul,
You must
KNow ThySelf...
To Unite your Heaven and Earth
within you...Devil and Angel
on each shoulder in balance and harmony..
MasterShip... .

All my love, with all my heart
To ALL. ...

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juniperb
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posted October 31, 2008 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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are we not ALL?

No, my body is a physical manifestation.

juni

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

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lotusheartone
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posted October 31, 2008 07:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, with spirit to OverSoul..the cord..string we all have to God Source...

you are not..
just..
your physcial body?

All my love, with all my heart
To You, and ALL. ...

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juniperb
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posted November 09, 2008 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's amazing what one can find on the Internet these days. This is a Time Magazine article from 1961 on the Cathars and Neo-Catharism.

Massacre of the Pure


"These heretics are worse than the Saracens!" exclaimed Pope Innocent III, and on March 10, 1208, he proclaimed a crusade against a sect in southern France that became one of the bloodiest blots in European history.

The heretics called Cathari (from the Greek word for pure), or Albigenses, from the town of Albi, one of their centers in Languedoc, were stamped out in 35 ruthless years of fire and sword. But as the centuries rolled on, they have had a measure of revenge against the Roman Catholic Church. The hatred generated by the crusade prepared the way for Protestantism. And in modern France, where popular apostasy from Catholicism is today wider and deeper than anything Pope Innocent could have imagined, the ancient heresy of Catharism is enjoying a remarkable revival of interest.

The long-lived tradition of anticlericalism in southern France, which recruited the Huguenots in the 16th century and fueled Communism in the 20th, is finding a new outlet in a spreading bush fire of enthusiasm for the vanished sect whose 750-year-old lost cause against the church gave anticlericalism its biggest beachhead in France. Some 30 books have been published during the last 15 years about their beliefs and practices and their slaughterous persecution—most of them highly favorable to the heretics and critical of the church. Several plays have been written about them, and literary reviews have published long articles. Hundreds of weekenders are climbing the 4,000-ft. rock atop which stands Montségur, the holy citadel of Catharism, where 300 soldiers and 200 unarmed, pacifist Cathari stood off an army of 10,000 for ten months before being burned at one huge stake for their "pure Christian" beliefs.


complete article here:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,897752-1,00.html

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

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lotusheartone
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posted November 10, 2008 07:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Juniperb, Great find!

They are/were extreme in some of their ways of thinking, but I do find some truth to their beliefs.
I wish for more things to be discovered!

All my love, with all my heart
To ALL. ...

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lotusheartone
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posted November 17, 2008 05:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cool video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrMSRDkCdU0

All my love, with all my heart
To ALL. ...

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ListensToTrees
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posted November 21, 2008 06:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool. I shall start watching them. Nassim Haramein talked about this in his lecture at the Rogue Valley Metaphysical Library. (Now that totally knocked my socks off...if not freaked me out at the same time).

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ListensToTrees
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posted November 21, 2008 06:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I don't get about that video, if the perspective put across is true, is

1) How can they prove Jesus himself really did write it?

Secondly, i suspect that the scroll has been misinterpreted. The word "destruction" is probably more about "transformation).

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ListensToTrees
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posted November 21, 2008 06:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm...the words on the gate to Bohemian Grove just came into my head...."weaving spiders come not here".

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TINK
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posted November 21, 2008 07:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Poor Yahweh has got to be the most misundrstood deity, but I can't imagine the Cathers didn't understand the Elohim

Manicheans btw

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lotusheartone
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posted November 22, 2008 01:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LTT, are you referring to the Book of LOve?
Which has not been found!

Tink, I had to look Manicheans..so here's a link...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manichaeism

very interesting..

the weavers hold the true story within them..what we have..
HIS STORY and Religion, was done with a
hidden agenda, power!
To bring us to where we are today..
prophecies are only probabilities..
we can still change these outcomes..

All my love, with all my heart
To ALL. ...

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ListensToTrees
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posted November 22, 2008 05:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Prophecies- probabilistic- yes.

Book Of Love? No, I was talking about this following link....it's very long but mind blowing....in Part 2 he talks about the Ark Of the Covenant- you might find that interesting...to say the least. I was agog, and as it went on it just got better and better.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6151699791256390335&ei=7jEUSfzBPKf22gLky9iCDQ&q=Nassim+Haramein

Love.

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TINK
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posted November 22, 2008 06:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi lotus. I think the Cathars can be traced back to the Manicheans. What do yu think of them?

The Arc is one of my favorite mysteries. The best explanation I ever heard was that The Arc of the Covenant is the human heart.

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lotusheartone
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posted November 26, 2008 12:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LTT, I spent 20 minutes listening to that bafoon, and would not waste 4 hours or more on him...I can't believe you would take your precious time, instead of Knowing ThySelf..to listen to so many idiots..honestly..LTT..it's time for you to work from within..you've scattered everything so far..it could never make sense..
I just don't have that kinda time to waste..
it comes from within..


Tink, heart, yes you are onto something..
I am still researching..and will find something..that ties them together, I am,
sure...

To all who are awaiting responses, and readings in email...
I'm 10 pages behind..trying to catch-up..
and dealing with my reality of Life=File..
chaos, at its best...

All my love, with all my heart
To ALL. ...

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