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Topic: Lucifer male or female?
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silverstone unregistered
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posted September 19, 2008 02:48 AM
Ok, most scriptures depict Lucifer as a male. Was he male or female in your opinion (explain your ideas)?
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deuxantares Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 19, 2008 02:58 AM
Not sure why. But they were not supposed to have genders, right?IP: Logged |
koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1984 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 19, 2008 03:48 AM
There is a denomination that believes that Lucifer is a spirit brother of Jesus. But Lucifer left heaven and took one third of the angels with him when he fell to Earth.
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augentier unregistered
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posted September 19, 2008 12:17 PM
Lucifer is a good lookin male who likes to partyIP: Logged |
oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 1081 From: New York Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 19, 2008 12:25 PM
Hey Koiflower, are you referring to the denomination of Jehovah Witnesses? Just curiousIP: Logged |
LEXX Knowflake Posts: 9745 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 19, 2008 06:43 PM
Androgyne. Also the Bringer of The Light Of Knowledge and Truth...adversary of Evil Lord of the second creation and his Eden Zoo. The tales got it all backwards and convoluted..leaving out important characters and details. Lucifer was never kicked out of heaven... heaven was an illusion of the false god who did not want souls to know the true God. Lucifer was not evil. The people who told the stories were mindless drunken minions of the jealous murderous false god of whom they worshipped and murdered for, the Lord who condoned and ordered mass genocide and killing innocent children. for more see: http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm ------------------ It is not about waiting for storms to pass...it is about learning to dance in the rain! __________________________________________________________________________IP: Logged |
BrightStar unregistered
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posted September 19, 2008 06:47 PM
Lucifer always does what he wants. He transform heself into anyting or one you can imagetion. He a very nauthy sprit. That why he was kick out of heaven for not following rulesIP: Logged |
Lei_Kuei Moderator Posts: 1413 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2008 04:32 AM
I'm pretty sure I read in a Philip Dick novel, possibly in: The Transmigration of Timothy Archer. That Lucifer was kicked out of the lords group, as his punishment for knowing of the one true god  The way this was put in the novel really stuck in my head, and seemed to make alot of sense  IP: Logged |
LEXX Knowflake Posts: 9745 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2008 07:00 PM
Philip K. Dick  ------------------ It is not about waiting for storms to pass...it is about learning to dance in the rain! __________________________________________________________________________ IP: Logged |
Azalaksh Knowflake Posts: 1008 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 20, 2008 10:12 PM
Curiously, I ran across this image entitled "Falling Angel" by Liiga Smilshkalne after reading this thread..... IP: Logged |
Charlotte unregistered
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posted October 25, 2008 01:28 AM
LEXX, You are so right on!IP: Logged |
LEXX Knowflake Posts: 9745 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 25, 2008 03:47 AM
Charlotte  Lucifer, unlike Lord and his angels, is not depicted as evil doing nor is he associated with killing, stinging, fire, flames, dark smoke, darkness, love of burnt flesh, and all the things Lord of the second creation and his murderous angels were. Lord hisses for flies, Lord and his ilk blind men's eyes, minds, and hardens their hearts. Lord brags about creating evil spirits and sending them out to possess people, and brags about creating an evil darkness. His human servants and prophets he said he made to be liars. They were drunks, incestuous, vindictive, and bent on murder and mass murder, ordered and encouraged by LORD. Even David and Solomon were bad guys...their social and moral crimes are many. If folks really read their various bibles, they would know all that. Lucifer is not Satan nor the Devil. ------------------ It is not about waiting for storms to pass...it is about learning to dance in the rain! __________________________________________________________________________
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LEXX Knowflake Posts: 9745 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 25, 2008 03:53 AM
Azalaksh  Nice painting! I do not see it as falling but a quickening like in Highlander! A letting go his ethereal image to be able to incarnate and walk amongst humanity, reincarnating over and over, to understand humanity. And when not in human form, Lucifer has no feathers but auric "wings" of light appearing winglike. Lucifer is also known as Phospheros and is good not evil. ------------------ It is not about waiting for storms to pass...it is about learning to dance in the rain! __________________________________________________________________________
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LEXX Knowflake Posts: 9745 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 25, 2008 04:06 AM
Some links from DD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkXOwBIRX7Y http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/BibleQuotes.htm http://nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns-kPDVXACE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY50b6NcCDY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX9DoVfFEOk http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/bilenbwframe.htm
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Xodian Knowflake Posts: 973 From: Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 25, 2008 09:29 AM
Remember people that Lucifer's origins have been liked to pagan deties such as Apollo and the Titan Prometheus. Lucifer himself however is unique when it comes to gender association with beuty; Much like his Pagan counterpart Apollo. He is described as "Beautiful" instead of there accepted terms of descibing male astetics such as "Handsome."So I am with Lexx on this one. IP: Logged |
LEXX Knowflake Posts: 9745 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 25, 2008 10:53 AM
Thanks Xodian  http://www.babylon.com/definition/Hesperos/English http://bible-truths.com/lake9.html?gclid=CPWrlpfQwpYCFQNbxwoddyObyA ------------------ It is not about waiting for storms to pass...it is about learning to dance in the rain! __________________________________________________________________________ IP: Logged |
LEXX Knowflake Posts: 9745 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 25, 2008 02:40 PM
A very good article!"The Origin of Devils & Demons" http://www.castleofspirits.com/origindevils.html ------------------ It is not about waiting for storms to pass...it is about learning to dance in the rain! __________________________________________________________________________ IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 96839 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 27, 2008 06:53 PM
Interesting.------------------ "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." Charles Schultz IP: Logged |
LEXX Knowflake Posts: 9745 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 27, 2008 07:53 PM
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000101.html The book is great! ------------------ It is not about waiting for storms to pass...it is about learning to dance in the rain! __________________________________________________________________________ IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees unregistered
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posted October 28, 2008 01:05 AM
Do you think there is a conspiracy amongst the conspiracy field to make Lucifer look bad? Many sources claim that Lucifer is secretly the one who the Vatican and who the highest ranking Freemasons worship, amongst other factions of the "Elite". These "whistle blowers" claim that Lucifer is the one they sacrifice children too.There is an acquaintance I have on another forum, who believes that Lucifer is the good being, and also believes that Lucifer is Jesus. I asked him about what the mind control victims, etc, have said, and he reckons that these members of the Elite said to worship Lucifer, do so in the way that they do because they misinterpreted a part of the Bible. Not sure what to think.  Are any of you into Michael Tsarion's work?
Perhaps the scriptures are not referring to singular, ethereal beings....but whole races of ETS/ genetically manipulated humans.....when it speaks of God and of Lucifer?
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 96839 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 30, 2008 03:31 PM
We've never heard his side of the story.------------------ "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia." Charles Schultz IP: Logged |
TINK unregistered
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posted October 30, 2008 04:09 PM
Gee, I wonder what color eyes Lucifer has? Blonde, brunette or redhead? Caucasian, African or Asian? My money says Lucifer is a tall, white American gentleman with an expensive penthouse on the Upper East Side, too much time on his hands and the President's private number on redial, but, you know, I like to think of myself as open-minded, so if you told me he was a small, dark Yiddish man working for Mossad, I could believe that too.IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees unregistered
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posted October 30, 2008 10:56 PM
Here's another person who believes that Lucifer was a planet: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/003528.html Randall, I can never tell whether you mean things literally or sarcastically.  IP: Logged |
silverstone unregistered
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posted November 03, 2008 06:26 PM
Lexx, ditto, that book is a good read!IP: Logged |
LEXX Knowflake Posts: 9745 From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 03, 2008 10:23 PM
quote: Lexx, ditto, that book is a good read!
Imdeed it is! I am making copious notes in the margins!  ------------------ Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain. IP: Logged |