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silverstone
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posted September 19, 2008 02:48 AM              Reply w/Quote
Ok, most scriptures depict Lucifer as a male. Was he male or female in your opinion (explain your ideas)?

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posted September 19, 2008 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares        Reply w/Quote
Not sure why. But they were not supposed to have genders, right?

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posted September 19, 2008 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower        Reply w/Quote

There is a denomination that believes that Lucifer is a spirit brother of Jesus. But Lucifer left heaven and took one third of the angels with him when he fell to Earth.

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posted September 19, 2008 12:17 PM              Reply w/Quote
Lucifer is a good lookin male who likes to party

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posted September 19, 2008 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars        Reply w/Quote
Hey Koiflower, are you referring to the denomination of Jehovah Witnesses? Just curious

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posted September 19, 2008 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX        Reply w/Quote
Androgyne.
Also the Bringer of The Light Of Knowledge and Truth...adversary of Evil Lord of the second creation and his Eden Zoo.
The tales got it all backwards and convoluted..leaving out important characters and details.
Lucifer was never kicked out of heaven...
heaven was an illusion of the false god who did not want souls to know the true God.
Lucifer was not evil.
The people who told the stories were mindless drunken minions of the jealous murderous false god of whom they worshipped and murdered for, the Lord who condoned and ordered mass genocide and killing innocent children.
for more see: http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm
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posted September 19, 2008 06:47 PM              Reply w/Quote
Lucifer always does what he wants. He transform heself into anyting or one you can imagetion. He a very nauthy sprit. That why he was kick out of heaven for not following rules

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posted September 20, 2008 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei        Reply w/Quote
I'm pretty sure I read in a Philip Dick novel, possibly in: The Transmigration of Timothy Archer. That Lucifer was kicked out of the lords group, as his punishment for knowing of the one true god

The way this was put in the novel really stuck in my head, and seemed to make alot of sense

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posted September 20, 2008 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX        Reply w/Quote
Philip K. Dick

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posted September 20, 2008 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh        Reply w/Quote
Curiously, I ran across this image entitled "Falling Angel" by Liiga Smilshkalne after reading this thread.....

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posted October 25, 2008 01:28 AM              Reply w/Quote
LEXX,
You are so right on!

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posted October 25, 2008 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX        Reply w/Quote
Charlotte
Lucifer, unlike Lord and his angels, is not depicted as evil doing nor is he associated with killing, stinging, fire, flames, dark smoke, darkness, love of burnt flesh, and all the things Lord of the second creation and his murderous angels were. Lord hisses for flies, Lord and his ilk blind men's eyes, minds, and hardens their hearts. Lord brags about creating evil spirits and sending them out to possess people, and brags about creating an evil darkness.
His human servants and prophets he said he made to be liars. They were drunks, incestuous, vindictive, and bent on murder and mass murder, ordered and encouraged by LORD. Even David and Solomon were bad guys...their social and moral crimes are many.
If folks really read their various bibles, they would know all that.
Lucifer is not Satan nor the Devil.


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posted October 25, 2008 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX        Reply w/Quote
Azalaksh
Nice painting!
I do not see it as falling but a quickening like in Highlander!
A letting go his ethereal image to be able to incarnate and walk amongst humanity, reincarnating over and over, to understand humanity.
And when not in human form, Lucifer has no feathers but auric "wings" of light appearing winglike.
Lucifer is also known as Phospheros and is good not evil.


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posted October 25, 2008 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX        Reply w/Quote
Some links from DD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkXOwBIRX7Y
http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/BibleQuotes.htm
http://nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns-kPDVXACE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY50b6NcCDY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX9DoVfFEOk
http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/bilenbwframe.htm

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posted October 25, 2008 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian        Reply w/Quote
Remember people that Lucifer's origins have been liked to pagan deties such as Apollo and the Titan Prometheus. Lucifer himself however is unique when it comes to gender association with beuty; Much like his Pagan counterpart Apollo. He is described as "Beautiful" instead of there accepted terms of descibing male astetics such as "Handsome."

So I am with Lexx on this one.

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posted October 25, 2008 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX        Reply w/Quote
Thanks Xodian

http://www.babylon.com/definition/Hesperos/English

http://bible-truths.com/lake9.html?gclid=CPWrlpfQwpYCFQNbxwoddyObyA

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posted October 25, 2008 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX        Reply w/Quote
A very good article!

"The Origin of Devils & Demons"
http://www.castleofspirits.com/origindevils.html

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posted October 27, 2008 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
Interesting.

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posted October 27, 2008 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX        Reply w/Quote
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000101.html

The book is great!

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ListensToTrees
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posted October 28, 2008 01:05 AM              Reply w/Quote
Do you think there is a conspiracy amongst the conspiracy field to make Lucifer look bad? Many sources claim that Lucifer is secretly the one who the Vatican and who the highest ranking Freemasons worship, amongst other factions of the "Elite". These "whistle blowers" claim that Lucifer is the one they sacrifice children too.

There is an acquaintance I have on another forum, who believes that Lucifer is the good being, and also believes that Lucifer is Jesus.

I asked him about what the mind control victims, etc, have said, and he reckons that these members of the Elite said to worship Lucifer, do so in the way that they do because they misinterpreted a part of the Bible.

Not sure what to think.


Are any of you into Michael Tsarion's work?


Perhaps the scriptures are not referring to singular, ethereal beings....but whole races of ETS/ genetically manipulated humans.....when it speaks of God and of Lucifer?

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posted October 30, 2008 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
We've never heard his side of the story.

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posted October 30, 2008 04:09 PM              Reply w/Quote
Gee, I wonder what color eyes Lucifer has? Blonde, brunette or redhead? Caucasian, African or Asian? My money says Lucifer is a tall, white American gentleman with an expensive penthouse on the Upper East Side, too much time on his hands and the President's private number on redial, but, you know, I like to think of myself as open-minded, so if you told me he was a small, dark Yiddish man working for Mossad, I could believe that too.

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posted October 30, 2008 10:56 PM              Reply w/Quote
Here's another person who believes that Lucifer was a planet:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/003528.html

Randall, I can never tell whether you mean things literally or sarcastically.

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silverstone
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posted November 03, 2008 06:26 PM              Reply w/Quote
Lexx, ditto, that book is a good read!

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posted November 03, 2008 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX        Reply w/Quote
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Lexx, ditto, that book is a good read!
Imdeed it is! I am making copious notes in the margins!

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