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Topic: Do the Illuminati have "free will"?
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ListensToTrees
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posted December 23, 2008 03:18 PM
 
I was just thinking tonight.....about the child abuse Svali and others have described in their testimonies. Most of us could never comprehend what it would have been like to be in their shoes, or go through those kind of experiences....like how they traumatize you and train/ force you to kill from an extremely young age (the age of 2 according to Svali).  No wonder these people's minds are so totally and utterly messed up.....perhaps this kind of trauma just shatters the human mind in many ways. Not only are they put through this, but they later undergo occult rituals to have entities possess them. Now if an entity possesses someone then the soul of that person is being controlled by that entity sometimes.
Yes, these people are completely sick......but perhaps.....and please do not get me wrong because I have not made my mind up about it yet.....but perhaps they are not much more than mind-controlled robots.......puppets.
Perhaps hate is futile. I don't know. Just sharing some thoughts I had this evening.
I suppose this brings us onto another topic.....do human beings have free will? Perhaps. In as much as we can still hear the voice of our own conscience through our hearts. Sometimes there is to much distraction in our lives and our physical minds to be able to hear our own hearts.
And if a person can hear the voice of their own conscience/ heart, then the way I see it, it is impossible not to do good. Perhaps by making some of the wrong decisions in life we stop hearing that voice so well....becoming slaves to the illusion of this world, that we are separate and that "survival of the fittest" is the natural way that things should be. I don't believe it is natural. I think it's simply a product of the particular dimension in which we live. Perhaps we are hear to simply experience "good" and "evil".
The only way to fully experience it would be to forget who we truly are.
Infinite love is the only truth.....everything else is illusion....For God's sake.....for our sake's.....let us allow ourselves to open our hearts and love more. Love is all we need.
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COMMANDER CONSTANT-HAZE
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posted December 23, 2008 03:50 PM
LTT, You seem to be the only one concerned with such topics as I... i dont know how to respond to you except on here so tell me what you think of this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j3mu5mFrPQ IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees
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posted December 23, 2008 05:51 PM
I've heard about the subject matter of the video before, but watching the video has put me into a state of shock, I feel I want to puke. I watched another video link on youtube, next to that one, supposedly debunking fema camp "conspiracies", however the "evidence" had no weight to it whatsoever.....also notice the frivolous music in the background used to ridicule believers. Another very odd thing is at the end of the video, when it says "restless knight productions" and shows a knight wearing a knights templar cross!!
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COMMANDER CONSTANT-HAZE
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posted December 23, 2008 06:19 PM
i have this type of info thrown at me day after day and i believe it to be very real and most debunking is by the NWO misinfo campaigns... the camps are real all you have to do is drive by them here in Arizona... to tell you that... i have never believed our government to true to its people... being a Pisces i grew up as a small child knowing this... thats why i have never taken the time to ever register to vote.. its all a make-believe hollywood production but its going on in real life.... im sick of watching it all and nobody listening... you see they cant stop the awakening... they can only hope to contain it... this type of action will be their going out party so to speak... it wont last... but i dont plan to be here when it starts..between the end of 2009-2011.. its gonna get ugly and the masses are going to be taken by surprise...IP: Logged |
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posted December 23, 2008 08:30 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=N_2GaOoPSoI IP: Logged |
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posted December 23, 2008 08:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm5AO4S04r4  IP: Logged |
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posted December 23, 2008 08:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le_ySMrOkFU&feature=related (Has a religious slant on it, this series- but that matters not....just to listen to the light within our own hearts). IP: Logged |
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posted December 23, 2008 09:21 PM
nice videos... and yes i have already watched the Arrivals... syuck in religion but so many great points i was able to overlook it... so funny uou posted that cause i was gonna post it and tell you to check it out earlier today...heres a video for ya
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posted December 23, 2008 09:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbjFqU625JY IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees
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posted December 26, 2008 06:35 AM
That video about the prison camps has haunted me quite a bit since watching, I'm not sure that even I can handle the truth. I may even have to go into denial to prevent myself from going mad!The way I'm handling it now, is by hoping in my heart that it won't be allowed to happen this time. These things don't have to happen again. Let's keep praying for our world. I don't think prayer does any harm. It's comforting to feel that there is a great energy/ consciousness out there which is comprised of highest, infinite love. I don't know what will happen but let's just view anything the world experiences as contractions as though it is in labour, which i think it is. There has to be a higher purpose to all of this.
There has to. We need to believe in ourselves. IP: Logged |
praecipua
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posted January 03, 2009 05:28 AM
i'm so glad to know u LTT, thank you!IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees
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posted January 06, 2009 06:52 PM
Frodo:"I wish the ring had never come to me.I wish none of this had happened".
Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times.
But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world Frodo, besides the will of evil. Bilbo was meant to find the Ring. In which case, you were also meant to have it. And that is an encouraging thought". IP: Logged |
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posted January 07, 2009 04:28 PM
LTT...of course hate is futile. it hurts only the holder and makes the hated stronger especially in such a case as these...that video about the camps may be true but it is an obvious cut-and-paste thing which makes me wonder... commander you say you have seen the camps? why do you think they would duplicate the familiar structure of the german camps of WWII? makes it a bit too obvious in my mind...perhaps the real game is to frighten us all into becoming sheep without having to actually DO anything to us at all. the trouble with going on about this stuff is that FEAR is the biggest single ingredient in weakening the opposition to such plans. when people are fearful and stressed they are unable to overcome what would be easy challenges when in their "right" mind. the people who survived the nazi camps were the ones who refused to be frightened to death!! why do you go on about it? we can do nothing until there is something to do something about! and if we sit around worrying we will be too weak to do so. the only thing we can do really is to strengthen our commitment to truth and love and do what we can to make the world around us a better place...i.e. create an environment where such atrocities cannot take root. IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees
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posted January 10, 2009 02:50 AM
When WE walk away, the pyramid must fall because WE are holding it up.   IP: Logged |
Charlotte
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posted January 11, 2009 06:28 AM
CCh and LTT,I'm very worried about what is coming up.
and LTT, Prayer is magical and I believe that it can negate negative energy. IP: Logged |
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posted January 12, 2009 03:04 PM
Nobody has free will.Everybody has free will. It's all relative. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 09, 2011 11:00 AM
Free-will has to be exercized.------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
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posted December 09, 2011 11:05 AM
Free will is a human illusion.
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Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. ~Rumi~ IP: Logged |
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posted February 29, 2012 09:45 AM
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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted March 03, 2012 03:03 PM
Or is it?------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
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posted March 03, 2012 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Free-will has to be exercized.
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Free will is a human illusion.
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Originally posted by Randall:
Or is it?
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Originally posted by Randall:
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posted March 03, 2012 11:42 PM
What Juni said. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted March 04, 2012 10:35 AM
I believe in Free-will. Much of what I experience is by choice.------------------
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posted March 07, 2012 06:20 PM
Free-will only goes so far. We choose most situations/circumstances beforehand, by what lessons we best need to learn, and our personalities are hard things to change, we carry them with us through lifetimes and afterlife....so our choices are often "a given" or we know what choice we will make anyway, because of our personalities alone. We are what we are and know beforehand how we will react and what "choices" we will make here. We know beforehand how we will react to certain situations and they are there for us to learn from. Rarely will we completely change a course we predetermined for ourselves (along with our wiser guides and "god").The main goals, focus, lessons will be learned/followed through. While we have choices, always, we rarely deviate from the paths we have carved out. Our missions usually get accomplished to some degree or another. That's the free will part, how much you decide to learn and grow from what you chose to come here for. Free will is not completely free. We are too unconscious here and don't remember what we chose, why we chose it, but the choices we make are usually automatic given our personalities and level of knowledge at the time. We follow the theme/lessons we chose beforehand that would provide us with the needed experiences to grow, and choose to react in a more positive or negative way based on what we've learned so far (in current and past lifetimes). Either way, we learn, but mostly there is not a lot of free will. We get what we chose, we learn what we chose to, too. IP: Logged |
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posted March 07, 2012 06:53 PM
In essence,.....be happy with what you gave yourself. lol   Make the most and best of it and your life will have been worthwhile. Be thankful and never stop learning from it. IP: Logged |
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