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LEXX
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posted March 07, 2011 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chistianity the Religion of Love

See above for movie and a very interesting article with horrific pictures.

quote:
"The Christian resolve to find the world evil and ugly, has made the world evil and ugly."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

quote:
"In order to justify their behavior, they turn their theories into dogmas, their bylaws into First Principles, their political bosses into Gods and all those who disagree with them into incarnate devils. This idolatrous transformation of the relative into the Absolute and the all too human into the Divine, makes it possible for them to indulge their ugliest passions with a clear conscience and in the certainty that they are working for the Highest Good. And when the current beliefs come, in their turn, to look silly, a new set will be invented, so that the immemorial madness may continue to wear its customary mask of legality, idealism, and true religion."
(Aldous Huxley, The Devils of Loudun, 1952, Harper and Brothers, NY, NY.)


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posted March 15, 2011 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VERY few Christians are real Christians.For the few that are, they are still flawed.

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posted March 15, 2011 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 16, 2011 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted March 16, 2011 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Halo LEXX

I perused the Site...
Being Agnostic
I often have trouble reading such nonSense.

My Quest-eon hear is:

what IS a "christian?"
and how should a "christian" behave?

Just curious.


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posted March 16, 2011 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chahldean:
Halo LEXX

I perused the Site...
Being Agnostic
I often have trouble reading such nonSense.

My Quest-eon hear is:

what IS a "christian?"
and how should a "christian" behave?

Just curious.



Hello Chahldean
Hmmmm.....
good query.
Well in my view a Christian in the strictest sense is a person who takes the Bible(so many versions, so it varies from person to person) as fact at face value,
WITHOUT QUESTIONING, WITHOUT DISCERNMENT,
and WITHOUT ever really READING IT, OR WORSE, IGNORING THE NASTY BITS.
A person who believes Yeshua and Jesus were same man, believe in him being their saviour instead of a man, who reincarnates just like we all do.
As to others who call themselves Christian, well, they often do so out of habit because their parents claimed to be Christians.
As to how should a Christian act?
Well I feel there should be no such thing as a Christian.
Yeshua was not is and is not Christ.
Christ is a title for any anointed person.
It is not a name.
Christianity is a belief system based on false information and lies.
And it is just cruel to keep re-crucifying the man in effigy for thousands of years,
voodoo like it is;
and sending him all their angst and all.
What a terrible thing to do to a soul!
One can only wonder at the severe depression he has had in life time after life time being bombarded by such thoughts sent by millions upon millions every day.
Like so many psychic/emotional begging whining emotional vampires repeatedly attacking him whether they realize it or not.
I hope that made sense.

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posted March 16, 2011 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Halo Dear LEXX

Well said.
I concur.
You and I are on the same page
and in the Same Tribe.

I was brought up in a strict Catholic School
with yet worse beliefs instilled in the Minds of Youth
than so called "Christians"....
yet
seam to have escaped
the prison Mindset
of such nonSense
that is recycled generation after generation
by those with blind faith.

I refuse to belong to any club
that has a human nailed to two pieces of wood.


I pray for all these Lost Souls,
as I do for Yeshua...
that One Day
his message and teachings
will be brought to Light
in the darkness that is man's Mind.

Thank you for your response.
You are much learned.



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posted March 16, 2011 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chahldean:
Halo Dear LEXX

Well said.
I concur.
You and I are on the same page
and in the Same Tribe.

I was brought up in a strict Catholic School
with yet worse beliefs instilled in the Minds of Youth
than so called "Christians"....
yet
seam to have escaped
the prison Mindset
of such nonSense
that is recycled generation after generation
by those with blind faith.

I refuse to belong to any club
that has a human nailed to two pieces of wood.


I pray for all these Lost Souls,
as I do for Yeshua...
that One Day
his message and teachings
will be brought to Light
in the darkness that is man's Mind.

Thank you for your response.
You are much learned.




Much love and Blessings to you dear Chahldean.
I shall reply more to you about your excellent post!
Must go for now my friend.
Love
LEXX
xoxoxo


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posted March 17, 2011 03:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bethcarliseh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cute

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posted March 26, 2011 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I pray for all these Lost Souls,
as I do for Yeshua...
that One Day
his message and teachings
will be brought to Light
in the darkness that is man's Mind.

Amen and Awomen

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posted March 26, 2011 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The day folks stop expecting the innocent soul of a good man to save them and stop crucifying him repeatedly in effigy, and sending him all their angst,
and start taking total responsibility for their own actions;
there will be beneficial changes and a great spiritual evolutionary leap in humankind.
Let him go already. No soul deserves such continuous torture and intrusion.
Send love and nothing more if you really care about him and not selfishly about yourselves.
Send that love out to all the world not just to Yeshua.
That is the root and key of the simple message.

LOVE
Take responsibility for your own doings.
Talk to God.

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posted March 26, 2011 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeshua the man.
What is more a good soul than for a human to be one who understands love and love for all without being a deific being,
but is simply a human man?
That being human shows us that we can all be capable of love for all as simply human beings just as he was/is.
We are all children of the true God.
Isn't it time we act so?

Namaste`

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posted March 31, 2011 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"In order to justify their behavior, they turn their theories into dogmas, their bylaws into First Principles, their political bosses into Gods and all those who disagree with them into incarnate devils"

That is deep buried reptile brain patterns. I still have them so they are familiar.

It is survival of the religion, just like a person would, base instincts. It is the methods they used to "problem solve"

This religion has been attacked many times inside and out. What you are seeing is the castle walls that has finally been engineered to withstand the type of warfare it faces daily.

If it does not make sense, It may be because its designed to keep you out. It has similar set up systems just like a king would, Example: Do not ask questions that are not "allowed" or fear consequences.

Just my opinion.

*Note: I am not attacking the religion, It is just an observation.

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posted April 08, 2011 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted April 08, 2011 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Einstein became profoundly religious by the end of his life

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posted April 08, 2011 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Einstein became profoundly religious by the end of his life



Well not really, as far as I know of.
Not in the traditional sense at least.
quote:
Albert Einstein Quotes on Religion

The most beautiful and most profound experience is the sensation of the mystical. It is the sower of all true science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead. To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their primitive forms - this knowledge, this feeling is at the center of true religiousness. ( Albert Einstein - The Merging of Spirit and Science)

The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend personal God and avoid dogma and theology. Covering both the natural and the spiritual, it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things natural and spiritual as a meaningful unity. Buddhism answers this description. If there is any religion that could cope with modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism. (Albert Einstein)

It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. (Albert Einstein, 1954) From Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University Press

Scientific research is based on the idea that everything that takes place is determined by laws of Nature, and therefore this holds for the action of people. For this reason, a research scientist will hardly be inclined to believe that events could be influenced by a prayer, i.e. by a wish addressed to a Supernatural Being. (Albert Einstein, 1936) Responding to a child who wrote and asked if scientists pray. Source: Albert Einstein: The Human Side, Edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffmann

A man's ethical behaviour should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death. (Albert Einstein, Religion and Science, New York Times Magazine, 9 November 1930

I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the kind that we experience in ourselves. Neither can I nor would I want to conceive of an individual that survives his physical death; let feeble souls, from fear or absurd egoism, cherish such thoughts. I am satisfied with the mystery of the eternity of life and with the awareness and a glimpse of the marvelous structure of the existing world, together with the devoted striving to comprehend a portion, be it ever so tiny, of the Reason that manifests itself in nature. (Albert Einstein, The World as I See It)

I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbour such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms. (Albert Einstein, obituary in New York Times, 19 April 1955)

I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings. (Albert Einstein) Following his wife's advice in responding to Rabbi Herbert Goldstein of the International Synagogue in New York, who had sent Einstein a cablegram bluntly demanding Do you believe in God? Quoted from and citation notes derived from Victor J. Stenger, Has Science Found God? (draft: 2001), chapter 3.

One strength of the Communist system ... is that it has some of the characteristics of a religion and inspires the emotions of a religion. (Albert Einstein, Out Of My Later Years, 1950)


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posted April 08, 2011 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Halo Mystical Wayfarers

Indeed, there are no Atheists in fox holes....
Or complete non Believers of a Higher Power
on one's death bed...
It is only natural for a Conscious Mind
that has sustained the pangs of Being Human
to contemplate Existence
beyond this Place....
How could IT not?

With all we go through and have been through....
Love. Joy. Gain. Loss.Pain. Suffering. Birth.Death....
Life ending in a cemetery
just doesn't seem logical.

There is no doubt in my Mind
A Greater Consciousness emits
beyond our limited Understanding
of Existence
in all it's shapes and forms....

A Source of Eternal Life
that transcends ALL boundaries and definitions...
dogmas,doctrines, scripture,words and prophecies.

We ALL know IT
somewhere hidden well within
our own composition and Being
and will confirm IT on our Transcendence...
Like we have and will continue to do so....
Perpetually Eternal.
Over and Over a gain.
Until
the very last One
joins Us.


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posted April 09, 2011 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautifully written,Chaldean.

Want to hear something funny? *I* thought you were an old woman ,too

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posted April 09, 2011 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking about this last night,Chaldean. Your picture looked so Scorpio but I can't remember what you said about Scorpio/Pluto in your chart.
Do you have Pluto in the 7th house or Scorpio on the 7th house cusp?

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posted April 09, 2011 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chahldean
Well I never thought you were a woman!

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posted April 09, 2011 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The most beautiful and most profound experience is the sensation of the mystical. It is the sower of all true science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead.

And that is a wonderous expression of a religion of Love.

Which goes nicely with the the Mystic Ibn Arabi.


O marvel! A garden amidst the flames!

My heart has become capable of every form:
It is a pasture for gazelles
And a monastery for Christian monks,
And a temple for idols,
And the pilgrim's Ka'ba,
And the tablets of the Torah,
And the Book of the Qur'an.
I follow the religion of Love:
Whatever way my love's camel takes,
That is my religion, my faith.
-- Ibn Arabi

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posted April 09, 2011 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quite often the Water Bearer pours
down the Essence of
the Masculine and the Feminine
so
justly and balanced
(so I`ve heard)

until they no longer
seem a she or a he
or is he a she?

...they just need to BE !

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posted April 09, 2011 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chahldean
juniperb

edit to add:
Just some more evil from the "good" book.
Rape In The Bible

Rape is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Yet few people know that the Bible often condones and even approves of rape. How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that allows rape escapes me. Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and carefully detoured around all the nasty stuff in the Bible.

So grab your Bibles and follow along as I show you all the nasty rapes that your priests and preachers don't want to tell you about. Note that in many places in the Bible there are references to "taking a wife". Don't be fooled into thinking that these were voluntary marriages. This first quote clearly shows that murder and force were used to "take" these wives.

1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)

So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.

The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."

Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.

Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick ******** killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?

2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)

They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.

Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.

3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?

4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.

5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)

If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.

It is clear that God doesn't give a damn about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans "property".

6) David's Punishment - Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God's "Forgiveness" (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)

Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'

Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." [The child dies seven days later.]

This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible. God himself brings the completely innocent rape victims to the rapist. What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil? And then he kills a child! This is sick, really sick!

7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)

"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."

Once again God approves of forcible rape.

8) Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)

They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)

9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)

Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)

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