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Dazed n' Confused
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posted April 08, 2004 05:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings, everyone.

I am new to this site and I have just recently learned the art of the Lexigram from one of Linda Goodman's books. I find it to be very fascinating and I have been Lexigramming all kinds of names.

This brings me to the topic of Jesus Christ. I was brought up as a Christian so my faith is naturally important to me. However, my faith has been decreasing due to certain things that I have been reading...such as proof that Jesus never existed, Jesus was the son of a Roman soldier, Jesus married Mary Magdalene, etc.
I'm sure that everyone here is familiar with all of these theories.

So I decided to do a Lexigram of Jesus's name. I used the title "Jesus Christ of Nazareth." He has the words "NO" and "NOT" in his name, so that would naturally cancel out certain other words. I found phrases such as:

IS HE A FARCE? NO
IS HE TRUE? NO

HE IS THE CHOSEN ONE
HE IS NOT THE CHOSEN ONE

HE IS RISEN
HE IS NOT RISEN

HE IS THE TRUE SON
HE IS NOT THE TRUE SON

HAS FEAR
HAS NO FEAR

JUSTICE
NO JUSTICE

So, there are obviously many contradictions within his name, causing me to become more confused than ever.
Does anyone here care to explain this? Does the word "NOT" automatically cancel out every positive word in a person's name? What should I believe concerning this Lexigram of Jesus's name?

If there are people here who are not Christians, then I apologize if I caused any offense. I'm just looking for some answers.

Does this Lexigram mean that Jesus is bad, fake, false, etc.?

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nowment
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posted April 08, 2004 06:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The letters show that in fact the issue of Jesus is truly a matter of faith which was what his teachings were about, faith, love, peace.

JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH
AACEEFHIJNORRSSSTTUZ

IS HE FALSE OR NOT?
HE IS FALSE, NO HE IS NOT FALSE
IS HE TRUE OR NOT?
HE IS TRUE, NO HE IS NOT TRUE
HAS HE FAITH OR NOT?
HE HAS FAITH, NO HE HAS NO FAITH
IS HE CHOSEN OR NOT?
HE IS THE CHOSEN ONE, NO HE IS NOT THE CHOSEN ONE
HAS HE RISEN OR NOT?
HE HAS RISEN, NO HE HAS NOT RISEN
HE IS FAITH, HE HAS NO FAITH
HE HAS RISEN, NO HE HAS NOT RISEN

HIS FATE IS TO SHOW TRUTH
HIS FATE IS TO FACE FALSE TRUTH
HIS FATE IS TO SHARE HIS HEART
HIS FATE IS TO FACE FALSE CRIES
HIS FATE IS TO CARE FOR OTHERS

CRIES THAT HE IS FALSE IS HIS FATE

CRIES THAT HE IS TRUE IS HIS FATE

HE IS THE ONE TRUE SON ,
NO HE IS NOT THE ONE TRUE SON

HIS FATE IS TO HAVE FAITH OF THE HEART
HIS FATE TO HEAR CRIES HIS FAITH IS FALSE

The controversy of is he or isn't he has been going on for thousands of years, and shall most likely continue which according to the Lexigram it is his fate..

So basically it comes back down to a matter of faith.

Actually I kind of like that about his Lexigram, it shows that how he is known is a matter of choice, it re-enforces the issue of free will.

You can accept or not...

Also could mean that some of the info on him is true and some is not, if you look at the Church is often over the centuries did not teach what Jesus intended.

The inquisition was not about loving thy neighbor... that would be FALSE FAITH

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posted April 08, 2004 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome nowment and Dazed n` Confused!
Excellent spiraling

juniperb

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posted April 08, 2004 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome, Daze!

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posted April 08, 2004 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think NO and Not just cancel out negative things, not positive (with the person being accused unjustly and wrongly).

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posted April 08, 2004 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings...

Ah yes... the Test of Faith. I have often spoken about it in regard to the NO and NOT words appearing in Lexigrams.

The Lexigram will give us a statement and then negate it, as if challenging us to make a choice. I believe it is doing just that.

However, here I will have to beg to differ with Randall (and mean NO disrespect) in terms of the NO and/or NOT canceling only the negative words or phrases. I think that is sort of like selective hearing.

I believe that in some cases, the NO or NOT represents a choice that will have to be made by the person or entity being Lexigramed. It's sort of like in the Lexigram for Adolf Hitler:

LORD OF LIFE; FOE OF HATE
OR
LORD OF HATE; FOE OF LIFE

Hitler had a choice, and he made it. In much the same way I feel that the NO/NOT gives an option; shows a polarity in which a choice must be made.

The Law of Polarity tells us: “Everything is dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites; like and unlike are the same; opposites are identical in nature; but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half truths; all paradoxes may be reconciled.” (The Kybalion)

The NO/NOT may as easily cancel something good as something bad, if the person CHOOSES to follow a negative path or OPTS NOT to take a positive approach.

Bright Blessings in the Light...
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posted April 09, 2004 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No offense taken. I just got that from Star Signs and Linda only mentioning the negative aspect.

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posted April 09, 2004 09:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do remember reading about the no or not negating the negative, however I don't know that it negates just the negative I do think it can create an either or situation.

In the case of these letters the OR is there the option is there.

In some ways it makes it more powerful to me, since the OR is there shows that Jesus understood the human condition of conflict between wanting to what is right, OR NOT

But like anything it is a matter of faith, what your own sense of truth lets us know what works for us.

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posted April 10, 2004 02:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're working with the wrong name.

It would be difficult to be called Jesus when there is no freaking "J" in your language! Heck, there was no "J" in English for over 1,500 years after Jesus' birth.

Jesus, comes from Greek "Iesous" & means annointed, but that was not his name either. His name was Yeshua, a shortened form of Yehoshua.

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posted April 10, 2004 03:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also you have the wrong place. There was no such place as Nazareth. It's a translation error. The city of Nazareth did not exist until a Christian king, embarrassed that his saviors city did not exist, named a random city Nazareth in the 5th century.

The intended phrase "Nazarine" referred to a type of Holy man, who had taken a Nazarite vow (poverty, chastity, and so on.) Greek translators mistook "He was a Nazarine" to mean he was from a city called Nazareth.

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posted April 10, 2004 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, but He has been known by that name for centuries--creating that vibration in the ethers of the Uni-verse.

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posted April 10, 2004 03:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It really explains the amazingly accurate Lexigrams you guys came up with, doesn't it?

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posted April 10, 2004 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Aselzion said-
I believe that in some cases, the NO or NOT represents a choice that will have to be made by the person or entity being Lexigramed. It's sort of like in the Lexigram for Adolf Hitler:

LORD OF LIFE; FOE OF HATE
OR
LORD OF HATE; FOE OF LIFE

Hitler had a choice, and he made it. In much the same way I feel that the NO/NOT gives an option; shows a polarity in which a choice must be made.

The Law of Polarity tells us: “Everything is dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites; like and unlike are the same; opposites are identical in nature; but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half truths; all paradoxes may be reconciled.” (The Kybalion)

The NO/NOT may as easily cancel something good as something bad, if the person CHOOSES to follow a negative path or OPTS NOT to take a positive approach.


wow Asezion! This makes perfect sense to me. Thank you for the great insight!

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posted April 10, 2004 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings...

de nada!

In the Light...
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posted April 10, 2004 08:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeylaLeFay - this is a little bit off of the beaten path, but could you tell me how you knew about the error in translation?

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posted April 10, 2004 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greetings...

Well, from what I understand the name Jesus was the 4 lettered name of God in Hebrew (Yod-Heh-Vav-Heh) with the addition of the Holy mother letter Shin, so that it was spelled (Yod-Heh-Shin-Vav-Heh) which transliterates as Yeheshua or Joshua.

In transliterating Hebrew, at least according to the Golden Dawn tradition, the Hebrew Yod can be either: I - J - Y.

My knowledge of Hebrew is only for Qabalistic/Gematria purposes, so I can claim no great knowledge of the language in the spoken form.

Hope that helps a little.

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posted April 11, 2004 06:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taken from Strongs Hebrew Lexicon:
Nazarite- from the root word Nazar:

5144 nazar naw-zar' a primitive root; to hold aloof, i.e. (intransitivey) abstain (from food and drink, from impurity, and even from divine worship (i.e. apostatize)); specifically, to set apart (to sacred purposes), i.e. devote:--consecrate, separate(-ing, self).
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Aselzion- I've never met anyone else who knew about the Hebrew Holy Mother- "Shin" (Shechinah.)

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Greetings...

Leyla... I don't know of too many either!

Always interesting to run into like minded individuals, isn't it?

In the Light...
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posted April 12, 2004 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shekinah is an interesting one. I understand the Talmudic texts infer the Shekinah is God`s wife or consort. Some believe The Thunder, Perfect Mind was written/spoken by her yet others say Pistis Sophia. Others believe the Shekinah is the Female Aspect of the ideology of God (Goddess) at work in the world, or better known as the Holy Spirit.

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posted April 12, 2004 05:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeyleFey - Wow, I am interested in the old languages and that reference that you have supplied is very exciting - also your information Aselzion and Yours Juniperb.

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Am I mistaken or are there 5 vowels in the name ?? fuchela

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posted April 14, 2004 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uh-oh.

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