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KeirraW
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posted January 13, 2012 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KeirraW     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Loads of controvesy here on the authenticity of these works, but they do make good reading:

And now a word, in uncouth rhyme
Of what shall be in future time

Then upside down the world shall be
And gold found at the root of tree
All England's sons that plough the land
Shall oft be seen with Book in hand
The poor shall now great wisdom know
Great houses stand in farflung vale
All covered o'er with snow and hail

A carriage without horse will go
Disaster fill the world with woe.
In London, Primrose Hill shall be
In centre hold a Bishop's See

Around the world men's thoughts will fly
Quick as the twinkling of an eye.
And water shall great wonders do
How strange. And yet it shall come true.

Through towering hills proud men shall ride
No horse or ass move by his side.
Beneath the water, men shall walk
Shall ride, shall sleep, shall even talk.
And in the air men shall be seen
In white and black and even green

A great man then, shall come and go
For prophecy declares it so.

In water, iron, then shall float
As easy as a wooden boat
Gold shall be seen in stream and stone
In land that is yet unknown.

And England shall admit a Jew
You think this strange, but it is true
The Jew that once ws held in scorn
Shall of a Christian then be born.

A house of glass shall come to pass
In England. But Alas, alas
A war will follow with the work
Where dwells the Pagan and the Turk

These states will lock in fiercest strife
And seek to take each others life.
When North shall thus divide the south
And Eagle build in Lions mouth
Then tax and blood and cruel war
Shall come to every humble door.

Three times shall lovely sunny France
Be led to play a bloody dance
Before the people shall be free
Three tyrant rulers shall she see.

Three rulers in succession be
Each springs from different dynasty.
Then when the fiercest strife is done
England and France shall be as one.

The British olive shall next then twine
In marriage with a german vine.
Men walk beneath and over streams
Fulfilled shall be their wondrous dreams.

For in those wondrous far off days
The women shall adopt a craze
To dress like men, and trousers wear
And to cut off their locks of hair
They'll ride astride with brazen brow
As witches do on broomstick now.

And roaring monsters with man atop
Does seem to eat the verdant crop
And men shall fly as birds do now
And give away the horse and plough.

There'll be a sign for all to see
Be sure that it will certain be.
Then love shall die and marriage cease
And nations wane as babes decrease

And wives shall fondle cats and dogs
And men live much the same as hogs.

In nineteen hundred and twenty six
Build houses light of straw and sticks.
For then shall mighty wars be planned
And fire and sword shall sweep the land.

When pictures seem alive with movements free
When boats like fishes swim beneath the sea,
When men like birds shall scour the sky
Then half the world, deep drenched in blood shall die.

For those who live the century through
In fear and trembling this shall do.
Flee to the mountains and the dens
To bog and forest and wild fens.

For storms will rage and oceans roar
When Gabriel stands on sea and shore
And as he blows his wondrous horn
Old worlds die and new be born.

A fiery dragon will cross the sky
Six times before this earth shall die
Mankind will tremble and frightened be
for the sixth heralds in this prophecy.

For seven days and seven nights
Man will watch this awesome sight.
The tides will rise beyond their ken
To bite away the shores and then
The mountains will begin to roar
And earthquakes split the plain to shore.

And flooding waters, rushing in
Will flood the lands with such a din
That mankind cowers in muddy fen
And snarls about his fellow men.

He bares his teeth and fights and kills
And secrets food in secret hills
And ugly in his fear, he lies
To kill marauders, thieves and spies.

Man flees in terror from the floods
And kills, and rapes and lies in blood
And spilling blood by mankinds hands
Will stain and bitter many lands

And when the dragon's tail is gone,
Man forgets, and smiles, and carries on
To apply himself - too late, too late
For mankind has earned deserved fate.

His masked smile - his false grandeur,
Will serve the Gods their anger stir.
And they will send the Dragon back
To light the sky - his tail will crack
Upon the earth and rend the earth
And man shall flee, King, Lord, and serf.

But slowly they are routed out
To seek diminishing water spout
And men will die of thirst before
The oceans rise to mount the shore.

And lands will crack and rend anew
You think it strange. It will come true.

And in some far off distant land
Some men - oh such a tiny band
Will have to leave their solid mount
And span the earth, those few to count,
Who survives this (unreadable) and then
Begin the human race again.

But not on land already there
But on ocean beds, stark, dry and bare
Not every soul on Earth will die
As the Dragons tail goes sweeping by.

Not every land on earth will sink
But these will wallow in stench and stink
Of rotting bodies of beast and man
Of vegetation crisped on land.

But the land that rises from the sea
Will be dry and clean and soft and free
Of mankinds dirt and therefore be
The source of man's new dynasty.

And those that live will ever fear
The dragons tail for many year
But time erases memory
You think it strange. But it will be.

And before the race is built anew
A silver serpent comes to view
And spew out men of like unknown
To mingle with the earth now grown
Cold from its heat and these men can
Enlighten the minds of future man.

To intermingle and show them how
To live and love and thus endow
The children with the second sight.
A natural thing so that they might
Grow graceful, humble and when they do
The Golden Age will start anew.

The dragon's tail is but a sign
For mankind's fall and man's decline.
And before this prophecy is done
I shall be burned at the stake, at one
My body singed and my soul set free
You think I utter blasphemy
You're wrong. These things have come to me
This prophecy will come to be.


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These verses were on the outer wrapping of the scrolls

I know I go - I know I'm free
I know that this will come to be.
Secreted this - for this will be
Found by later dynasty

A dairy maid, a bonny lass
Shall kick this stone as she does pass
And five generations she shall breed
Before one male child does learn to read.

This is then held year by year
Till an iron monster trembling fear
eats parchment, words and quill and ink
And mankind is given time to think.

And only when this comes to be
Will mankind read this prophecy
But one mans sweets anothers bane
So I shall not have burned in vain.

This section was kept apart from the other and it appears
to have been written together yet was in a separate jar...

The signs will be there for all to read
When man shall do most heinous deed
Man will ruin kinder lives
By taking them as to their wives.

And murder foul and brutal deed
When man will only think of greed.
And man shall walk as if asleep
He does not look - he many not peep
And iron men the tail shall do
And iron cart and carriage too.

The kings shall false promise make
And talk just for talkings sake
And nations plan horrific war
The like as never seen before
And taxes rise and lively down
And nations wear perpetual frown.

Yet greater sign there be to see
As man nears latter century
Three sleeping mountains gather breath
And spew out mud, and ice and death.
And earthquakes swallow town and town,
In lands as yet to me unknown.

And christian one fights christian two
And nations sigh, yet nothing do
And yellow men great power gain
From mighty bear with whom they've lain.

These mighty tyrants will fail to do
They fail to split the world in two.
But from their acts a danger bred
An ague - leaving many dead.
And physics find no remedy
For this is worse than leprosy.

Oh many signs for all to see
The truth of this true prophecy.

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posted January 13, 2012 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool read
Thank you for posting.

My take on prophets in general:
(posted under my old user name)
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000009.html

Link here to end of the world poetry:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum17/HTML/002411.html

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posted January 13, 2012 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Mother Shipton

Ursula Southeil (c. 1488–1561) (possibly Ursula Southill or Ursula Soothtell, better known as Mother Shipton, was an English soothsayer and prophetess.

The first publication of her prophecies, which did not appear until 1641, eighty years after her reported death, contained a number of mainly regional predictions, but only two prophetic verses – neither of which foretold the End of the World, despite widespread assumptions to that effect.

One of the most notable editions of her prophecies was published in 1684. It states that she was born in Knaresborough, Yorkshire, in a cave now known as Mother Shipton's Cave, that along with the Petrifying Well and associated parkland is operated as a visitor attraction. She was reputed to be hideously ugly. The book also claims that she married Toby Shipton, a local carpenter, near York in 1512 and told fortunes and made predictions throughout her life.

It is recorded in the diaries of Samuel Pepys that whilst surveying the damage to London caused by the Great Fire in the company of the Royal Family they were heard to discuss Mother Shipton's prophecy of the event.

Prophecies

The most famous claimed edition of Mother Shipton's prophecies foretells many modern events and phenomena. Widely quoted today as if it were the original, it contains over a hundred prophetic rhymed couplets in notably non-sixteenth-century language and includes the now-famous lines:

The world to an end shall come
In eighteen hundred and eighty one.

This supposed prophecy has appeared over the years with different dates and in (or about) several countries (for example in the late 1970s many news articles about Mother Shipton appeared setting the date at 1981). However, this version did not appear in print until 1862, and its true author, one Charles Hindley, subsequently admitted in print that he had invented it.

Part of her most famous prophecy is below:


"A Carriage without a horse shall go;
Disaster fill the world with woe.
In London, Primrose hill shall be,
Its center hold a Bishop's see.
Around the world thoughts shall fly
Quick as the twinkling of an eye,
And waters shall great wonders do--
How strange, and yet it shall come true.
Then upside down the world will be,
And gold found at the root of a tree;
Through towering hills proud men shall ride,
Nor horse nor mule move by his side.
Beneath the water men shall walk;
Shall rise, shall sleep, and even talk.
And in the air men shall be seen,
In white, in black, as well as green;
A great man shall then come and go
For prophecy declares it so.
In water iron then shall float,
As easy as a wooden boat
Gold shall be found in stream or stone
In land that is yet unknown.
Water and fire shall wonders do,
And England shall admit a Jew,
The Jew that once was held in scorn,
Shall of a Christian then be born
A house of glass shall come to pass
In England--but alas! alas!
A war will follow with the work,
Where dwells the pagan and the Turk.
The states will lock in fiercest strife,
And seek to take each other's life.
When North shall thus divide the South.
The eagle build in lion's mouth.
Then tax and blood and cruel war
Shall come to every humble door,
Three times shall sunny, lovely France
Be lead to play a bloody dance;
Before the people shall be free,
Three tyrant rulers shall she see,
Three rulers in succession be--
Each from differnt dynasty,
Then when the fiercest fight is done,
England and France shall be as one.
The British olive next will twine
In marriage with the German vine,
Men walk beneath and over streams,
Fulfilled shall be our strangest dreams.
All England's sons shall plow the land,
Shall oft be seen with book in hand.
The poor shall now most wisdom know
And water wind, where corn did grow.
Great houses stand in far flung vale,
All covered o'er with snow and hail.
And now a word in uncouth ryme
Of what shall be in future time.
For in those wonderous far-off days,
The women shall adopt a craze
To dress like men and trousers wear
And cut off all their locks of hair.
They'll ride astride with brazen brow,
As witches do on broomstick now;
Then love shall die and marriage cease
And nations wane as babies decrease,
The wives shall fondle cats and dogs,
And men live much the same as hogs.
In nineteen hundred and twenty-six,
Build houses light of straw and sticks,
For then shall mighty war be planned,
And fire and sword shall sweep the land.
But those who live the century through
In fear and etrembling, this will do
Flee to the mountains and the dens,
To bog and forest and wild fens,
For storms shall rage and oceans roar
When Gabriel stands on sea and shore,
And he blows his wonderous horn.

Legacy

Quite who Mother Shipton was or what exactly she said is not definitively known. What is certain is that her name became linked with many tragic events and strange goings on recorded all over the UK, Australia and North America throughout the 17/18/19th centuries. Many fortune tellers used her effigy and statue, presumably for purposes of association marketing. Many pubs were named after her. Only two survive, one near her birthplace in Knaresborough and the other in Portsmouth where there is a lifesize statue above the door.

A caricature of Mother Shipton was used in early pantomime and is believed by historians to be the forerunner of the Panto dame.

There is a moth, Callistege mi, named after her. It seemingly bears a profile of a hag's head on each wing.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Shipton

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posted January 13, 2012 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for starting this thread!

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KeirraW
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posted January 13, 2012 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KeirraW     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks again for getting pics and info up! I did put a post up in the thread you recommended, but, alas, it's not showing!

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