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Ami Anne
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posted March 23, 2012 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a 15 year student. I know quite a bit so could offer something to people who know nothing or little. If you are interested in learning--Jump on. Please, only come on if you have a genuine interest in the subject.I don't want to debate it's validity.

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posted March 23, 2012 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to have fun and learn --not fights

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posted March 23, 2012 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You skip directly to the toughest part

Let's hear it!

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Ami Anne
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posted March 24, 2012 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK Ian
Well the Bible can predict future events with exactitude.If it could not, it would be silly for anyone to follow it. God does not ask for blind allegiance. He gives lots and lots of evidence that the Bible is different from any other book in all time---ever.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 24, 2012 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am trying to think how to present this so I don't throw too much out at one time.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 24, 2012 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was meditating on how to approach this. Two years ago, I spent 3 weeks going over Bible Prophecy and people still said,"Yes, but.........."
This time, I will tell you about the future so that can be lessened.
When I tell you a prophecy, *I* am not saying it. The Bible is. I am just someone who is trying to educate anyone who wants to learn what the Bible says.

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posted March 24, 2012 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One prophecy which has NOT happened yet is Damascus Syria will be destroyed to the point that it will be rubble.

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posted March 24, 2012 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One thing that fascinates me is how two people can see the same thing, read the same thing, both be equally intelligent, and come up with two very different perspectives, each worthy of examination.

So, while I don't know how active I'll be on this thread (if I don't feel that I can be respectful or keep things cool, I will not participate), I do feel that it's an interesting (though very, very, very delicate and also very divisive) subject to discuss, and will probably be reading it.

Kudos to someone having the guts to bring it up and discuss it openly!

The only thing that I'll ask as a moderator is that people keep it civil if there are varying opinions, and especially if there is a big conflict/if the opinions are not compatible; I do want to help this section of the forum become more active, so I'm hoping that exchanges on this thread will be honest but respectful.

I'm really hoping that more people will jump in; this topic, though touchy and challenging for the strong feelings it can evoke from people, is one worth examining, in my opinion.

So yeah, good topic! Looking forward to seeing where it goes.

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posted March 24, 2012 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, with Bible Prophecy, it is not delicate as it says what it says with specific times and places such that many prophecies are as clear as day whether or not we like them to be as such.
Thank you for your interest Regardes. My passion in life is to serve the God of the Bible. Beyond that, I have no agenda other than my own ego with which I wrestle constantly.

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posted March 26, 2012 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, if anyone is interested, I am mainly gonna do the future prophecies as people seem to poo poo the ones that already happened

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posted March 26, 2012 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you doing Major Prophets Minor Prophets or both?

I`m curious on your take of Obadiah.

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posted March 26, 2012 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Are you doing Major Prophets Minor Prophets or both?

I`m curious on your take of Obadiah.


I am not familiar with him Juni.Please, tell me.I would love to learn!

I am thinking in terms of prophecy in the real world--ones that are concrete and easy to understand such as the one about Syria. No one wants any of the bad ones, so to speak, but they are in the Bible so one must address them.

The earthquakes are in there as INCREASING in the last days. The weather will be increasingly strange as one can see.

I want to try to be very very practical so people can see it easily.

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posted April 01, 2012 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Book of Obadiah is an oracle concerning the divine judgment of Edom and the restoration of Israel.

Summary:

Yahweh summons the nations to the overthrow of proud Edom. The men of Esau will be brought down from their lofty strongholds; their hidden treasures will be rifled; their confederates will turn against them; nor will the wise and the mighty men in Edom be able to avert the crushing calamity (Obadiah 1:1-9).

(2) The overthrow of Edom is due to the violence and cruelty shown toward his brother Jacob. The prophet describes the cruelty and shameless gloating over a brother's calamity, in the form of earnest appeals to Edom not to do the selfish and heartless deeds of which he had been guilty when Jerusalem was sacked by foreign foes (Obadiah 1:10-14).

(3) The day of the display of Yahweh's retributive righteousness upon the nations is near. Edom shall be completely destroyed by the people whom he has tried to uproot, while Israel's captives shall return to take possession of their own land and also to seize and rule the mount of Esau. Thus the kingship of Yahweh shall be established (Obadiah 1:15-21).

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posted April 01, 2012 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know about Obadiah. If you care to explain it in a little more practical way, I would love to learn. My Prophecy teachers are Hal Lindsay, Grant Jeffries and Les Feldick. I want to use very simple prophecies with easy to see fufilments as that is what makes a teaching moment which is what I am all about. I would love to learn about this Obadiah if you could make it more practical, Juni. I know that Ezekial and the Dry Bones is a picture of the Jewish people coming back from the dead i.e forming the state of Israel.I think this is a double reference to Messianic Jews as well. Bible Prophecy can be complicated when some things have double fufilments. That is why I like the simpler prophecies for teaching purposes such as something like Isiah 53 but I am all ears for new learning!

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posted April 03, 2012 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So many don`t agree on Obadiah and there doesn`t appear to be practical understanding.

Thats why I hoped you had studied it and had a perspective to share

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posted April 03, 2012 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Juni for asking. I am honored you would ask me. I am not a professional scholar just a student. I do know someone who could answer that question though as he has a Phd Hebrew and Greek studies and is a professor of Biblical Studies. He is a Messianic Jew so his perspective would be as a Jew and a Bible believing Christian. He was brought up as an Orthodox Jew. His family threw him out when he accepted Jesus and even had a literal funeral for him. He is a fascinating person and is very intellectual AND very clear which is almost impossible to find. His name is Arnold Fructenbaum. I have met him at a conference and he is so humble considering how much he knows. Anyway, if you are interested, I could look up his site and put it on. I have not listened to him in many years, just because I learned enough for my own satisfaction

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posted April 04, 2012 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting.

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posted April 04, 2012 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Arnold is an incredible teacher because of speaking Hebrew and Greek so he can go to the exact words that were used plus he is very,very deep and very, very clear. He has a certain following which is totally crazy about him lol

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posted April 04, 2012 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I could look up his site and put it on.

Please do Ami Anne!!

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posted April 04, 2012 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Thanks Juni. My pleasure.

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posted April 04, 2012 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here it is, Juni. His biography is amazing. His parents declared him dead after he accepted Jesus as a teen. They had a funeral for him complete with all that goes into an actual funeral. He went to college on pure faith. He enrolled with no money for it. He told no one of his need. Someone paid for his entire 4 years in college. He still does not know who.

http://www.ariel.org/

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posted April 04, 2012 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Here it is, Juni. His biography is amazing. His parents declared him dead after he accepted Jesus as a teen. They had a funeral for him complete with all that goes into an actual funeral. He went to college on pure faith. He enrolled with no money for it. He told no one of his need. Someone paid for his entire 4 years in college. He still does not know who.

http://www.ariel.org/


wow...really amazing that he was blessed with having his college paid for

I know a few biblical historians and scholars (most are priests, some professors); some of the ones that I've known really are cool. I love it when I meet intelligent people who are also really approachable, human, and just all around good people. Sounds like you've had that experience too, Ami Anne, from what you've written about the time you met him.

It really is amazing how blessings can turn up in life sometimes, and again, am just blown away that someone took care of his education.

I have stuff to do, so I'm going to be heading out soon, but keep posting, guys! Again, good that people are talking about this and am happy to see more traffic here.

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posted April 06, 2012 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If anyone checked out Arnold, tell me what you think!

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