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Topic: Do you believe that God can forgive anything?
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RegardesPlatero
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From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted August 15, 2012 03:19 AM
  
As I said on the "is astrology a sin?" thread, I'm trying to focus less on it, starting right now.So, mainly, I'm worried about not being able to be forgiven for having put in so much time on that, and also for being distracted a lot at church, and a lot of the hateful and unkind thoughts that I've had about people who've frustrated and hurt me. I feel guilty about the things that I don't do, and the reasons at times why I don't do them. [edit: mainly, when I am rude to people who are unkind to me, and not for reasons of self-defense--when I get passive-aggressive rather than assertive] I just feel like a horrible person sometimes. So, coming from that, do you believe that God really forgives anything? If so, why? If not, why not? Also, please, I am asking: keep this on topic. Please. IP: Logged |
Padre35
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From: charlotte, NC, US
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted August 15, 2012 03:27 AM
There is but one unforgivable Sin.God, indeed, the universe, does forgive anything, as long as one sincerely asks and repents of it. The problem arises due to the fact "us", "we" "you" "me" everyone can be spiritual cleansed, but emotional trainwrecks. Feelings of guilt are powerful things. IP: Logged |
emitres
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posted August 15, 2012 10:47 AM
i think it depends entirely on your definition of "God"... someone who has embraced a more traditional/fundmental view is likely to believe in the "punishment for sins" - forgiveness generally comes from sincere repentance and atonement, emphasis on atonement....
someone from a more "new age" view will generally believe that God can, and does, forgive us anything - no matter how often we repeat the offense, as long as an apology issues forth, we're good...
i think that what is more important is where you see yourself in this broad spectrum based on your relationship with your God... we all need to connect more personally with whatever form of belief we hold as true, otherwise it just becomes dogma to be followed but not embraced completely...
as for your feelings of guilt - guilt is a human created entity that is supposed to keep us in line and help society function better...too much of it in your life is going to impede you from learning - you'll be too concerned with making a huge mistake... you're distracted in church - why? is it because you're a horrible rotten person - or is it because maybe, just maybe, the person behind the pulpit isn't helping you connect anymore? having read many of your posts i am strongly inclined to the latter... as for the astrology thing - if you have decided that it's not for you, for any number of reasons, then it's good that you have chosen to walk away... the only thing i would ask is if it came from you or came from the pressures of others who believe it's a sin... none of my business so you don't need to answer that - i just hope that you're not allowing other's perception of what's right or wrong to change who you are at heart.... ------------------
" Some define good as that which preserves, and evil as that which destroys; but destruction can be cleansing and purifying, for there is such a thing in both men and races as spiritual constipation, which comes from too much preservation of the status quo." ( Dion Fortune ) IP: Logged |
T
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posted August 15, 2012 11:13 AM
I think forgiveness begins and ends within each individual. That is our job to do here and in the afterlife, not his. A God knows too much - has such a high perspective on absolutely everything that it is unnecessary for him to do forgiving. A God's love is unconditional and all pervading. Something we mostly don't understand well. We as humans are learning about that and about forgiveness, to ourselves and others. Since I don't see God as some sort of seperate entity and more of a divine intelligence and spark within each, we are to focus more on forgiveness in our own lives and selves and to work on a better understanding of it personally, rather than worry about if we will be forgiven by God. just my quick passing thought for the moment on this.  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted August 15, 2012 12:42 PM
God can forgive anything. The Bible says there is one"unforgivable sin", but this is not really a sin. It is the rejection of the Holy Spirit. Hence, it is just a reiteration of accepting Jesus, as the way to salvation.
A classic example of everyone being able to be saved is the thief on the cross, next to Jesus. He was saved, purely by faith, not from what he did or did not do, action wise.------------------
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T
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posted August 15, 2012 01:31 PM
RP, you know your heart. That's what is important: the condition of your heart. "God" knows that too. Divine Intelligence knows your heart and it's intentions better than you do and has more faith in you than you do.We all get distracted - in church and elsewhere in life. Forgive yourself for it because youre human, youre a good person and your heart's in it. IP: Logged |
juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
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posted August 15, 2012 03:45 PM
T, a beautiful way of expressing it  ------------------
We dance around the ring and suppose, but the secret sits in the middle and Knows
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Lei_Kuei
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posted August 16, 2012 04:50 AM
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Do you believe God can forgive anything?
A God of a Religion? No ofc not, otherwise why would there be a hell  So logically, no God who uses a heaven/hell dichotomy is the least bit Godly... Quite frankly I have more faith in the power of human forgiveness The God of heaven and hell can eat sh!t for all I care, and they should beg for MY forgiveness for being so stupid  Fairly tale Gods have no power, least the power you give to them 
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RegardesPlatero
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From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted August 16, 2012 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by T:
RP, you know your heart. That's what is important: the condition of your heart. "God" knows that too. Divine Intelligence knows your heart and it's intentions better than you do and has more faith in you than you do.We all get distracted - in church and elsewhere in life. Forgive yourself for it because youre human, youre a good person and your heart's in it.
thanks, T You made me think of something, actually. An acquaintance of mine knows someone who had a near-death experience and had a vision of Jesus. Apparently, according to that person, he was overwhelmed by the compassion and love that Jesus had. I just worry sometimes about not believing the right thing (lately, I'm feeling that with astrology). I started praying yesterday for some clear answers on that, but haven't received them yet. I also worry a lot because I do have quite a bit of unexpressed anger towards people. While it does seep out in other ways (i.e., I sense that people pick up that I'm angry), I have not directly just come out and expressed all of it to everyone who's upset me. I just have to live with that energy, since I can't just be honest and open about it. I just have to ride each wave of anger and allow myself to feel it. I don't want to feel guilty about my feelings, but, at the same time, they aren't going to go away and I can't speak up about them. As I said, I just have to live with that. I also want to work on giving God a more important place in my life, and to treat God with more respect. IP: Logged |
T
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posted August 18, 2012 02:15 PM
Hi RP.I struggle sometimes with similar issues. As long as we look for ways to work through them, I think we are on the right track. The fact that you want to work on yourself, your faith and arent staying stagnant in your life - that you want to change for the better is a great thing.  Btw, you just reminded me about a book i read years ago. I really enjoyed it. You and others here might too. I'll post it in a new thread. IP: Logged | |
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