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Randall
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posted October 30, 2012 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MB mentioned me and gas prices.

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posted October 30, 2012 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you and gas I see

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posted October 31, 2012 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wohoo Mitch is back!

"If we were not there, we do not know. We are depending on human nature to be honest about itself and it's past.."


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posted October 31, 2012 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the title of this thread exposes one of the big fallacies of christianity. do we have to have permission, and from whom, to believe what makes sense to us?

if so why?? why is god so similar to the Big Jailor In the Sky, who doesn't want man to know what's really going on (tree of knowledge forbidden!) and insists on treating us all as children, and bad ones at that?

if god is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent, then "he" is within us all ... the whole church thing, no matter what church, tries to keep us small ..

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posted October 31, 2012 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
[B]the title of this thread exposes one of the big fallacies of christianity. do we have to have permission, and from whom, to believe what makes sense to us?

More internet baloney

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The Crown of Ba'al, also known as the Papal Tiara and Triregnum is a three-tiered jewelled papal crown and symbol of claimed papal supremecy since the 16th Century. Since the 16th Century, it has featured prominently as part of the coat of arms of the Vatican, usually with the crossed keys of claims of authority from St Peter. Any text or other claim that alleges the three-tiered crown is older than the 16th Century is deliberately false.

Prior to Pope Boniface VIII (1294-1303) the antipopes of the Roman Cult wore fabric, not metallic headdress, similar to the Persian High Priests of Mithra(Taurean). However in 1302 Boniface issued his infamous Papal Bull Unam Sanctam, being the first Express Trust claiming control over the whole planet and effectively "King of the world". In celebration, he commissioned a gold plated headdress in the shape of a pinecone, with an elaborate crown at its base.

The pinecone is an ancient symbol of fertility and one traditionally associated with Ba'al as well as the Cult of Cybele.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unam_sanctam

http://one-heaven.org/final_writs_rome/final_writs_Master_Trusts.htm


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This 1st Crown is represented by the 1st cestui Que Vie Trust created when a child is born, depriving them of all their beneficial entitlements and rights on the land at birth.

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This 2nd Crown is represented by the 2nd cestui Que Vie Trust created when a child is born being the sale of the birth certificate as a Bond to the private central bank of the nation, depriving them of ownership of their flesh and condemning them to perpetual servitude as a Roman person, or slave.

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This 3rd Crown is represented by the 3rd cestui Que Vie Trust created when a child is baptized being the grant of the Baptismal certificate by the parents to the church or Registrar being the gift of title of the soul. Thus, without legal title over one's own soul, a man or woman may be "legally" denied right to stand as a person, but may be treated as a creature and thing without legally possessing a soul. Hence, why the Bar Association is able to legally enforce Maritime law against men and women- because they can be treated as things, cargo that does not possess a soul.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admiralty_law


The world is "under water" during the picean age, fish people.

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posted October 31, 2012 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not really that funny.

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Originally posted by katatonic:
if so why?? why is god so similar to the Big Jailor In the Sky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IKKNwK0oF4



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Uj9sduV3k8

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posted November 01, 2012 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 01, 2012 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Piscean period, in a nutshell.

http://www.wimp.com/classicbloopers/

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posted November 02, 2012 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
perhaps i should have said that i don't believe christianity or anyone else has the right to give permission to believe ANYthing.

since most children are baptized before they are able to give consent, it is their prerogative to revoke that consent AND the baptism too.

the church, religion in general, have no more power than we are willing to give THEM permission to wield. people started to realize awhile back that GOD was created in the image of those who want to control us and keep us asleep/hypnotized, and that the OMNIPRESENT god must be WITHIN each and every one.

ONWARD, humans.

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posted November 02, 2012 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
perhaps i should have said that i don't believe christianity or anyone else has the right to give permission to believe ANYthing.

since most children are baptized before they are able to give consent, it is their prerogative to revoke that consent AND the baptism too.

the church, religion in general, have no more power than we are willing to give THEM permission to wield. people started to realize awhile back that GOD was created in the image of those who want to control us and keep us asleep/hypnotized, and that the OMNIPRESENT god must be WITHIN each and every one.

ONWARD, humans.


AMEN!!

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posted November 03, 2012 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You win the Best Gifs Award.

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posted November 05, 2012 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
You win the Best Gifs Award.




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posted November 10, 2012 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for uranusingleton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My case was peculiar although I didn't care I was Catholic I loved Jesus' compassionate teachings that was out of the ordinary with most folks in his day and even sometimes today. But I wasn't practicing until I had a psychotic episode that changed my whole world and perspective on suffering and forced me to be a compassionate person. I was before that a popular mean person who didn't care about her body or her family, friends or parents or her path. So anyway it was a good thing then. But, I will say I rekindled my Christian faith after meeting Christian friends in high school (funny how we meet up being kindred spirits) and I was literally so open to it it was my best Christian experience. So anyway I went to college then fell wayward in that I didn't care for Christian teachings anymore... So I was brought back to the Catholic faith almost by force through loneliness. I joined a Church and met really cool older ladies who introduced me to a Marian house prayer group. So I went and I was sold! I saw miracles and stuff so I was like okay God has to be here. I felt love and so I kept coming back. That was like a haven for a short-while and I ended going on a pilgrimage to Venezuela (to see Maria Esperanza's estate and super sweet family) and it was such a sign for me to stay in my faith. Christianity is not for everyone it takes a person who is sort of simple and hopeful in all things. Well anyway I am now practicing my Catholic faith by taking the eucharist I swallow words that I believe are in accord with the truth and I spit that which I don't is in accord with the truth. Reincarnation is a good case but after a lady was told by Jesus that it did not exist and why she didn't follow the ten commandments (in a near death experience after she was struck by lightning) it got me wondering. It would definitely suck that in this life you gotta pay back for what you did unknowingly or mercilessly in a past life when now you know that its wrong. But to say we know the mysteries of God is incredulous no one can fathom it I don't think He whom He called a friend, Abraham could either! But if he did then I'd say that man was probably the best man that ever lived. So anyway that was my rant on my little testimony on my finding my faith. Everyone is different. Its not complete because I would like to see Jesus I have seen Mary and angels but not Jesus I have felt his presence I may have talked to Him but not necessarily had a dream/vision of Him that would be awesome!

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