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Topic: Anyone read Holy Blood, Holy Grail?
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Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 463 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 11, 2012 12:45 PM
This is the foundational book for Dan Brown's Davinci Code and Angels and Demons.Anyone else read it? For me, I found some of the information fascinating some of it pure hackism, and some a completely different take. For example the examination of the Caanan Wedding, good point about this was most likely a wealthy person's wedding party. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1540 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 11, 2012 01:28 PM
I haven't read it but what is his take on the Holy Grail?IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 463 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 11, 2012 01:46 PM
He takes several different approaches:-Holy Grail is a mother's womb -Holy Grail is a Jesus bloodline carried to France IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1540 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 11, 2012 01:49 PM
Now I know why I didn't read it.  IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 463 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 11, 2012 09:23 PM
AnywhoSome of the more interesting factoids in the book: -Roman Catholic Church cut a deal with Clovis, a 5th century French king, that would make the RCC the "official" religion of the kingdom, the catch was the King and his descendants could take several wives. -There was a sort of mini Jewish kingdom in the South of France during this time period, in fact later on when the Moors were ejected later on, the Jewish population of the city turned on their fmr muslim allies inside the city in exchange for having a independent city state. Fun stuff, the conspiracy theory stuff is whatever, but that era in Europe is unknown to most people. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 36754 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 11, 2012 09:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: Now I know why I didn't read it. 

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Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 463 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 11, 2012 10:53 PM
They are so cute at that age.IP: Logged |
charmainec Moderator Posts: 5434 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 12, 2012 04:30 AM
This is the one Dan Brown book I have not read.. yet! Quite enjoyed the others despite all the controversy and cries of blasphemy when Da Vinci Code was released. I enjoy the out-of-the-box type of thinking.  ------------------ quote: Remember, love can conquer the influences of the planets....It can even eliminate karma.
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RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 3968 From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 05:48 AM
I am proud not to have read "The DaVinci Code". The more I hear about it, the more I don't want to read it. I think the hype and hoopla about it is part of what makes it unappealing. Plus, conspiracy theories annoy me. So, I wouldn't want to read a book that inspired it, either. (Instead, I'd rather do routines and chorus scenes with footwork im-pecc-able).(sorry, couldn't resist a Monty Python and the Holy Grail reference, after seeing the words "Holy Grail" in the thread title ) My favorite (so far) religious fiction book is Eco's "The Name of the Rose". That is a good mystery. Even though I figured out the killer very quickly (it just seemed to me like it HAD to be that person, and it turned out that I was right), there is so much richness in that book. I couldn't put it down. Plus, the killer's motives were very interesting to me. IP: Logged |
charmainec Moderator Posts: 5434 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 12, 2012 06:29 AM
Then I suppose you wouldn't enjoy a book such as Gooberz by Linda Goodman, as she too touches on the topic of the Union between Jesus and Mary.. all in there too might be considered "conspiracy theories".. not saying that all in the Davinci Code is true as it is fictional yet with little bits of truth here and there..------------------ quote: Remember, love can conquer the influences of the planets....It can even eliminate karma.
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Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 463 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 12, 2012 09:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by charmainec: This is the one Dan Brown book I have not read.. yet! Quite enjoyed the others despite all the controversy and cries of blasphemy when Da Vinci Code was released. I enjoy the out-of-the-box type of thinking. 
Nice, the interesting thing for me about this one was not the hypothesis about Christ rather the circumstances of things like the pre 1000 AD Church and the nuts and bolts of Templars organization and speculation on why the Romans are more or less portrayed as neutral arbitraters rather then the brutal occupiers they were in the synaptic Gospels. Fun stuff and topics rarely broached in any depth today. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1540 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 11:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by Padre35:
They are so cute at that age.
You know how old I am? I can tell you right now he is wrong about the Holy Grail. Unless he also mentions what I said... IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 3968 From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 04:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by charmainec: Then I suppose you wouldn't enjoy a book such as Gooberz by Linda Goodman, as she too touches on the topic of the Union between Jesus and Mary.. all in there too might be considered "conspiracy theories".. not saying that all in the Davinci Code is true as it is fictional yet with little bits of truth here and there..
probably wouldn't I did like some of the excerpts of her poems that were in "Love Signs". I'll admit that I don't always see eye to eye with her or agree; I didn't agree with a lot of her personal opinions in "Love Signs", but I do feel that her astrological insights were pretty spot on. It's just not my thing, conspiracy theories. They just don't appeal to me. Romance novels, same thing. And Westerns. IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 463 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 12, 2012 09:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: You know how old I am? I can tell you right now he is wrong about the Holy Grail. Unless he also mentions what I said...
Well gosh, I'd guess you'd have to read it for yourself to find out.. 
Only 3 yr olds, and senior citizens can afford to think they know everything AthenaG.
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1540 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 09:55 PM
ne mind.IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 463 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 12, 2012 10:22 PM
thought so.This is one of the issues with a belief in the divine, lots of Diva, very little Divine. To me, after literal decades of study, from Asian to European Christian to Fertile Crescent faiths..a lack of humility, of a willingness to learn and engage, bespots a true dialog. Nay, in a world of hubris, the thought of creating nemesis..does not exist. INOW, why bother with those who clearly know it all, just ask, not like they will respond, this is their sign of incredible wisdom..just ask them. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1540 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted September 12, 2012 10:30 PM
You are putting words in my mouth. Not cool. All I'm saying is that I know what the Holy Grail is and it's not anything outside of ourselves. Beliefs.. these have nothing to do with the Divine. I deleted because I don't think it's a good idea to try and enlighten anyone when they can't enlighten themselves.  If you think you are a limited human being that doesn't have the potential to know everything. By all means. Good luck on your journey. IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 463 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 13, 2012 03:17 AM
No need, one is what one is.IP: Logged |
shura Knowflake Posts: 457 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted September 14, 2012 11:14 AM
I read it many years ago. Intriguing historical references, many of which are worthy of further exploration. The authors' conclusion was a bit silly, in my opinion. In their defense, they were not playing a familiar game and clearly in over their heads. I didn't bother with DaVinci.Agree with The Name of the Rose mention. Luscious book. Total pleasure to read. I've yet to see the film. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 3968 From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 15, 2012 06:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by shura: I read it many years ago. Intriguing historical references, many of which are worthy of further exploration. The authors' conclusion was a bit silly, in my opinion. In their defense, they were not playing a familiar game and clearly in over their heads. I didn't bother with DaVinci.Agree with The Name of the Rose mention. Luscious book. Total pleasure to read. I've yet to see the film.
I want to see the film too. Haven't yet. IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 4828 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 16, 2012 04:11 PM
I enjoyed the book as much as I enjoy most fiction  The templars do fascinate me tho! Believe it or not shura, the The Name of the Rose is still on my reading list . ------------------ We dance around the ring and suppose, but the secret sits in the middle and Knows Robert Frost IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 463 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 17, 2012 01:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by shura: I read it many years ago. Intriguing historical references, many of which are worthy of further exploration. The authors' conclusion was a bit silly, in my opinion. In their defense, they were not playing a familiar game and clearly in over their heads. I didn't bother with DaVinci.Agree with The Name of the Rose mention. Luscious book. Total pleasure to read. I've yet to see the film.
Agreed, it is a fascinating, and little known, epoch in the journey of the Christian faith. Think they went a bridge to far overall, but the idea that the wedding feast was Christ's wedding was very interesting. IP: Logged |