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Padre35
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posted February 01, 2013 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Decided to go out last night, not sure why, it was brutally cold in the Mtns in January.

Went out I did, ran into a friend, a close friend, and we talked for literal hours.

He's the type of guy who women literally throw themselves at, around 6'3, long blond hair etc.

My friend, however, was chatting with an ex GF whom he really was into, like really into.

Things went bad, but one can tell he still was into her. Anywho, after the split he did what men tend to do..drink a lot.

And I do mean.. a lot.

Anyhow, we stop by a store to get some smokes and he buys a tall boy beer and with the most sincere look says "I'm addicted to alcohol, before it was heroin, now it is alcohol, do you have any ideas how I can stop?"

Which imo, is a heart breaking admission.

Out of the blue, perhaps via the Spirit, my reply was:

"Well, it's like this, you'll stop yourself, or life will stop you"

Walk uptown and run into mutual friend, a fellow chef, whom neither of us had seen in months and he boldly said:

"I had to be rushed to the hospital, my heart was bad, so now I've stopped everything, no smoking cigars, no drinking, nothing"

My friend looked me dead in the eye and we both knew what the Universe was telling him.

Here is my thought on this:

The Universe sends messages, and puts one into places and situation for a specific reason. One may not know why, however it eventually is revealed.

Suspect that sort of flow and intuition is what God wants from people, He provides the insight, and leads one to situations.

This, to me, is practical counseling, no need to hand out a Biblical tract, rather more or less applying what the Most High teaches us all

If we'd but listen.

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juniperb
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posted February 01, 2013 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Suspect that sort of flow and intuition is what God wants from people, He provides the insight, and leads one to situations.

This, to me, is practical counseling, no need to hand out a Biblical tract, rather more or less applying what the Most High teaches us all


And of course is what Jesus the Christ counsels ...

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We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. ~ Mattie Stepanek

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Padre35
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posted February 01, 2013 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Indeed, this is one of my issues with Churches, Christ provides such wonderful tools and yet they are rarely used.

There is a flow to things, to all things, when the Spirit speaks through a person, it really does have an impact.

Har-meggido, Israel, what have you, misses just how needful it is for people to have relationships with actual Christians, w/o an agenda.

Give love out, and love will come back to you, this is one of the ways the Universe works.

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Sabine
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posted February 01, 2013 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sabine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I second that--to listening to Spirit and love.

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mercuranian
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posted February 01, 2013 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Sorcha
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posted February 03, 2013 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Padre,

Am no longer a Christian but I could not agree with you more. The Universe is always sending us messages, regardless of what we believe.

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T
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posted February 03, 2013 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Padre,

Am no longer a Christian but I could not agree with you more. The Universe is always sending us messages, regardless of what we believe.


She's got it. Always. If your eyes and ears are open and you are good at deciphering beautiful mysteries and messages, it becomes quite a symphony of beauty.

.....always speaking to you....

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posted February 03, 2013 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by T:
She's got it. Always. If your eyes and ears are open and you are good at deciphering beautiful mysteries and messages, it becomes quite a symphony of beauty.

.....always speaking to you....


it's rather amazing really. but never ceases to be either....

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Lexxigramer
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posted February 03, 2013 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Padre35
I am glad your friend was given a sign to change his life.
God within can speak through anyone to help another.

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Sabine
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posted February 03, 2013 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sabine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Padre35
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posted February 04, 2013 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Padre35
I am glad your friend was given a sign to change his life.
God within can speak through anyone to help another.

Ahh, but he has not yet heeded the message, sadly enough.

A good friend of mine, who is sort of unique, (as in born a woman but now claims to be a man, I'm fine with it)recently had a bad situation.

Basically he/she broke up with a long time love interest, whom they had a child with, and had a 41st birthday.

And did what, imo, everyone does in such situations. That is calling up a fmr love interest whom is apparently not a very good person.

Which happens, however for my friend it was this massive error and he/she was unable to forgive themselves for doing it.

Inconsolable guilt just permeated my friend and I felt so badly for them. It was an error to be sure, however they just could not manage to either understand why he/she did what she did or to muster self forgiveness.

I think that many problems spring from the lack of ability to simply forgive oneself.

Suspect that is one of both friends problems, and the thing of it is, both are really successful professionally.

Personally though..train wrecks

Probably should not care as much as I do, it just bothers me to see close friends so deeply unhappy.

To me, I think at the end of the day, one really does have to be good to oneself, it is all we have.

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posted February 11, 2013 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emeraldopal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a string
that sings
of the FLOW
and TRUTH. ...

You are A11 BEaUtiful... .

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All my love, with all my Heart
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Padre35
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posted February 19, 2013 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eh, talk about things getting worse:

My Male/Female friend and I had a..little chat this evening.

And it turns out the mother of his/her child wound up carrying a child through pregnancy even with a still birth at the end of it all.

She had known this was going to happen for 2 months.

the heartbreaking thing is my friend thought I'd be there this past Sunday so she had planned on telling me then..and I'd planned on going there but the temps dropped below 20 degrees..if I'd known, I'd have went and screw the cold..did not know.


How..awful for them both

Welcome to life

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Padre35
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posted February 23, 2013 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, as usual, if one gives things time, they will work out for the best as long as everyone's intentions are pure.

-my friend is talking again with her baby's mom, looks like all has been forgiven (Aquarius and Pisces couple)

-A young couple, both friends of mine, had split up, but now are back together and they have even found a Church to attend that suits them both. He is bi/curious as she is, but the Church is the type of place where they just care about how they are doing.

So all in all, a good start to what is turning into an early Spring up in the Mtns

just to add a mutual friend of mine asked my last evening about a dream he had about a White Dog.

White normally means purity, and a dog is always loyal, but he seemed greatly troubled about it and would not talk about it any more.

An artist, he broke into a sort of scat/poem instead

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Padre35
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posted March 09, 2013 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Alright...

A friend of mine, a black dude, and myself chatted this evening..

He's a decent guy

Anyhow, his love interest of the moment, a white girl, got her son back

So far, so good.

My friend is not happy with the situation as he feels she is spoilng him

6 yr old is screaming for his mom to put his shoes on sort of spoiled

Being a man, but not his Father, he feels neutered..and I cannot blame him.

What a Father does is to step in and assert, but not being the boy's dad..he feels that he does not have the Authority to do anything.

This will ruin a relationship, and is already starting to ruin it.

So all of the counseling I could give him was just to be straight up with her and just be honest and talk about what is wrong here.

As an aside, was talking to literally 5 grown men about reading a book to a child, and having them pick out the book, before it was bedtime..and interacting with the child in the book

"So do you think that dress is pretty?"

For example, and all of the males were really digging the idea..single moms guys are out there..they do want to interact with the children....men do not just want to be bystanders..

YMMV...

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