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Topic: Arguments for God...?
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juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 26, 2013 09:09 AM
  
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juniperb
Moderator Posts: 6359
From: Blue Star Kachina
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posted March 26, 2013 09:56 AM
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Faith
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posted March 26, 2013 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by juniperb:
I enjoy good conversation, do not disrespect any Faith
Yes! A key requirement is that you cannot disrespect me or anyone else with my name.  (I know you other Faiths are out there!) Note: Just being silly! I nominate you, too.  IP: Logged |
juniperb
Moderator Posts: 6359
From: Blue Star Kachina
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posted March 26, 2013 10:16 AM
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Lei_Kuei
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posted March 26, 2013 11:30 AM
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It is knowledge free from the duality of the extremes of "is" and "is not".[10] It ***is*** the Buddhist Middle Way between eternalism and annihilationism.^ Is that hypocrisy? Or just like, WE can use the word "is," because we're smart enough to do it the right way, but if you try it, you'll be wrong?
Yes, because the purpose of language is to define and communicate everything in understandable terms. What language can never convey is something beyond definition... "GOD"! This approach leaves you with well... nothing but an abstraction. That really helps doesnt it? Yet if all duality springs from the God Zone betwixt-duality, then logically such was created by the unknowable force in an effort to understand itself... It "is" THEE absolute observer... YOU! The opposite of this "is", is to NOT be an observer of duality... GOD! And around and around we go... what fun  The only good thing about this approach is that is that it removes God from the equation, God is on nobody's side, and definitely does not hate Gays... Nor does it love any chosen people or singular person. But the observer of duality CAN make those choices! So then who truly has Godly power and free will? ------------------
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Emeraldopal
Knowflake Posts: 1846
From: U
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted March 26, 2013 01:06 PM
my thoughts on God...MOther and Father
Duality
Polarity The Force-Energy God only enters into equal
partnerships..therefore
they are always here in human
form, each and everyone One
of Us is them..
As Above
So Below so two
are eally 4 yet they are One We are A11 1 yet individual
and unique we are a11 equal... different levels GOD
374=14movement and challenge=5mercury-earth
Magic, and Expect a Miracle! There was a Spark-Light
that ran into darkness-Love and these 2 created a 3rd
Supreme Force , a trinity then Mind was Over Matter
Love and The ALL ------------------
All my love, with all my Heart
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Lexxigramer
Moderator Posts: 2172
From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 26, 2013 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Junis` Resume for Mod in Divine Diversities:
I love d-o-g (s), plural
I love G-o-d, singular I am loyal to Lindaland and Knowflakes I do not make your eyes bleed from constant misspellings , cuss word abreviations , shouting in bold letters , or emoticon overload. I focus on the Unity of all religons, not what separates them. I enjoy good conversation, do not disrespect any Faith and attempt to be fair and objective. I am at times, cheeky, ironic, thick headed, kind, and often mis understood as most Aquarians are when they ramble on from their daisy patch . The end. 
Lol 
I will assume it is part of a kind of joke/sarcasm about the incorrect spelling of words;
seeing how you have at least 3 or more misspelled words in your post.
If true errors then I apologize for thinking it might be a joke of a kind.IP: Logged |
juniperb
Moderator Posts: 6359
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 26, 2013 04:18 PM
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Lexxigramer
Moderator Posts: 2172
From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 26, 2013 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by juniperb:
So it was a joke?
Intentional?
I was going to add this to my post above, but since you replied with the
I will post it here:
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OK....
maybe you were not making a funny after all?
I see you misspelled Abbreviated in your title on another thread;
"Tired of Ho Hum Cussing and the Abreviated Versions??"
Also misspelled;
wearysome should be wearisome.
So maybe you were not trying to be funny after all. 
So was that intentional?
And are you making fun of me?
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juniperb
Moderator Posts: 6359
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 26, 2013 05:19 PM
Lexx, I take myself too seriously sometimes and it was a fun poke at myself. Nothing personal to you at all .  ------------------
We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. ~ Mattie Stepanek IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
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From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
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posted March 26, 2013 05:32 PM
OK
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Faith
Knowflake Posts: 4367
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posted March 26, 2013 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:
Yet if all duality springs from the God Zone betwixt-duality, then logically such was created by the unknowable force in an effort to understand itself... It "is" THEE absolute observer... YOU! The opposite of this "is", is to NOT be an observer of duality... GOD!
I love it! But how do you come up with the "logically then"...pray tell? quote:
Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:
The only good thing about this approach is that is that it removes God from the equation, God is on nobody's side, and definitely does not hate Gays... Nor does it love any chosen people or singular person. But the observer of duality CAN make those choices!
Deep...this is all so deep!  quote:
Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:
So then who truly has Godly power and free will?
Can I put my money on "no one and everyone"? That sounds like a winner... IP: Logged |
Stawr
Moderator Posts: 2309
From: N. America
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted March 27, 2013 01:11 AM
I snapped at my mom. I can't tell her anything about my spiritual beliefs anymore. I can't tell her about my spiritual experiences she will just assume that they all need to gone and that they are bad cause I'm not christian.She believes anyone who is not christian...is being "blocked by spirits" that from knowing the truth of God/Jesus/Bible. I just need to get out of here! I kept telling her to stop before I tell her off, she wouldn't stop...and express how she wastes her brains hoping I'll come around.
I FLIPPED. And I know she wont let it go either. She is gonna have all these church people pray for me and **** . SO ANNOYING. I just need to finish school and move out. I am too old to have her in my business like this. IP: Logged |
Lei_Kuei
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posted March 27, 2013 10:47 AM
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I love it! But how do you come up with the "logically then"...pray tell?
Hehe... not making my life easy are you, yep clearly I'm working from a thus undisclosed presupposition in relation to the problem at hand. My overall theory is drawing from many other conclusion/theorems about the nature of God and our relationship with/to such an entity. Id have to write a lengthy exegesis to fully explain my reasoning here, but I'm actually saving that for a project I'm currently working on lol Anyhow... My "logical assumption" as you so well spotted is I guess working from two main arguments. 1: The holographic nature of reality and the concept that individual consciousness in a holographic model contains all consciousness including that of the original, even if the original no longer exists in its original form... **cough** GOD lol quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holography
Holography is a technique that enables a light field, which is generally the product of a light source scattered off objects, to be recorded and later reconstructed when the original light field is no longer present, due to the absence of the original objects
So basically your mind, is in actuality the mind of God in observer mode. quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming 2: The Deming System of Profound Knowledge "The prevailing style of management must undergo transformation. A system cannot understand itself. The transformation requires a view from outside."
My logical assumption working backwards is suggesting that GOD as a closed system, its main concern would be to become all knowing! Yet in that instant it realizes... Oh **** ! I have only 2 possible choices. Stay as I am in perfect no-dualism bliss, or bite the bullet and take a good hard look at myself from the 3rd person perspective.... and In that moment you existed lol  Ofc this opens a MASSIVE can of worms... ------------------
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T
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 27, 2013 08:22 PM
Another vote for Juni here. She's got her ego in check, is very intelligent and knowledgeable about many religions and always looking to help others. She listens well and offers sage advice. Really, the forum might not actually deserve her.IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted March 27, 2013 09:14 PM
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The holographic nature of reality and the concept that individual consciousness in a holographic model contains all consciousness including that of the original, even if the original no longer exists in its original form... **cough** GOD lol
Makes sense. quote:
Stay as I am in perfect no-dualism bliss, or bite the bullet and take a good hard look at myself from the 3rd person perspective.... and In that moment you existed lol
I wonder what purpose it serves in the grand scheme of things when people are relatively "unconscious," staring slack-jawed at the TV, eating their microwave dinners and drinking beer? Maybe that is like the darkness between the stars? LOL When humans become enlightened and can control their autonomic nervous system at will, I think a tangible shift towards greater Godliness has occurred- something has definitely changed, like the caterpillar into a butterfly-- it's like you have a new kind of creature. I wonder if other life forms have an evolving consciousness like that, and I wonder how that plays into your larger theories on life.
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T
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posted March 27, 2013 09:33 PM
Is Faith in the running?I'd vote for her too. Same reasons. PixieJane
Juni
Faith
(in no particular order) would all be great additions. They are cool-headed, able to detach and all extremely smart and have a lot to add/share with people here. Any of them would be safe bets, not to mention people who can set a great example for how others might best interact with people here....especially on such heated topics such as the ones this forum is devoted to. IP: Logged |
T
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posted March 27, 2013 09:36 PM
I've not noticed any of them completely losing their tempers (if they have one) and to me, that is admirable and one quality that a Moderator needs to have.None of them are snipe-y or stoop to low levels and egg on other members and never start fights. They are calm, cooling, wise influences here and are present enough to do the job right. Most of the Mods here, don't seem to show up much. If it were my website, i'd like people like them to moderate every forum. So, what's the hold up? Why make a "to be continued" episode type thread, or a sort of soap opera type of suspense about it all? To me, the choices are obvious. A no brainer. IP: Logged |
T
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posted March 27, 2013 11:00 PM
....it's like youve got these jewels in your hands and prefer to think of them as rubble. They should be celebrated and you should be begging them to moderate. They would be doing you a favor.What a shame.  I'm nominating someone else I highly respect, but I know would never get (or even want) the position.... KAT. yeah, katatonic. Man, you have all these brilliant women here but don't know what to do with them. It should not be that hard to find a moderator for a forum with these four ladies, active members here. I just don't get it. Why keep bumping the thread saying you are lookng for the perfect Mod, when they are right before your eyes? It's almost insulting. Am i alone in the woods here? Why do you think I quit so many times? No respect or appreciation. Be more thankful of the best members you have here. They are doing you a favor. I hate to think of them vying for a spot to Moderate here. You don't appreciate them. IP: Logged |
T
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posted March 27, 2013 11:05 PM
,,,,not a cheerleading team i'd want to be on anyway.  (not that I ever wanted to be a cheerleader) IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted March 28, 2013 09:27 AM
LOL, thank you, T. I think I'm "in the running" for H&H, Juni & Pixie are getting the People's Vote for D&D. Looking forward to hearing how it's resolved. IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
Moderator Posts: 2172
From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 28, 2013 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by T:
....it's like youve got these jewels in your hands and prefer to think of them as rubble.
They should be celebrated and you should be begging them to moderate.
They would be doing you a favor.What a shame.
Who is seeing the nominees as "rubble"? 
quote:
Originally posted by T:
I'm nominating someone else I highly respect, but I know would never get
(or even want) the position....KAT. yeah, katatonic.
You are nominating KAT??????????
I second the nomination.
quote:
Originally posted by T:
Man, you have all these brilliant women here but don't know what to do with them.
It should not be that hard to find a moderator for a forum with these four ladies, active members here.
I just don't get it.
There are more than 4 nominees for this forum;
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NOT ALL ARE FEMALES!
Lei_Kuei, Padre35 are men!
Juniperb volunteered as did Faith I think.
Other nominees are PixieJane, Stawr, and Kat.
quote:
Originally posted by T:
Why keep bumping the thread saying you are lookng for the perfect Mod, when they are right before your eyes?It's almost insulting. Am i alone in the woods here? Why do you think I quit so many times? No respect or appreciation. Be more thankful of the best members you have here. They are doing you a favor. I hate to think of them vying for a spot to Moderate here. You don't appreciate them.
I am not seeing a problem.
And,
was that directed at Randall?
No one is "vying" to be a DD moderator except for maybe those who volunteered.
I believe Randall is looking over all nominees and volunteers;
and with at least 5 for DD and I think 4 for Hearth And Home.
As far as I know I am the only nominee/volunteer for another forum.
btw...
LOL...both Hearth And Home and Health And Healing are "HAH" and Labors OF Love is "LOL".
I would not want to choose from some 10 or so nominees and volunteers.
Someone will usually be upset they were not chosen or not be happy with the one picked.
Also it is Randall's site;
so what business is it of when he chooses?
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Faith
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posted March 28, 2013 11:46 AM
I wanted to add that I also think kat and Lei_Kuei would do well here. I don't know Stawr very well.Though kat and I argue like a kat (pun) and dog (see how humble I am, calling myself a pooch?  ) over at GU2 sometimes...for some reason I tend to strongly agree with her here, and generally find her self-composed and fair. I offered to mod under the assumption that Randall needs mods. If others are volunteering, I am completely non-competitive and will gladly defer to others who want the position more.
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Lei_Kuei
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posted March 28, 2013 11:48 AM
This is getting more exciting than Survivors Tribal Council!  Too bad its made a mess of the Arguments for God motif... It should be renamed Arguments for Mod  ------------------
You can't handle my level of Tinfoil! ~ {;,;} IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted March 28, 2013 11:50 AM
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