posted April 06, 2013 02:32 PM            

The new survey finds that 34 percent of adults would favor establishing Christianity as the official state religion in their own state, while 47 percent would oppose doing so. Thirty-two percent said that they would favor a constitutional amendment making Christianity the official religion of the United States, with 52 percent saying they were opposed.

Although a large percentage of Americans said they would favor establishing a state religion, only 11 percent said they thought the U.S. Constitution allowed states to do so. Fifty-eight percent said they didn't think it was constitutional, and 31 percent said they were not sure.

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that the First Amendment, which (among other things) prohibits the government from establishing an official religion, also applies to the states.

Republicans were more likely than Democrats or independents to say that they would favor establishing Christianity as an official state religion, with 55 percent favoring it in their own state and 46 percent favoring a national constitutional amendment.

The relatively high level of support for establishing Christianity as a state religion may be reflective of dissatisfaction with the current balance of religion and politics. Respondents to the poll were more likely to say that the U.S. has gone too far in keeping religion and government separate than they were to say religion and government are too mixed, by a 37-29 percent margin. Only 17 percent said that the country has struck a good balance in terms of the separation of church and state.

The HuffPost/YouGov poll was conducted April 3-4 among 1,000 U.S. adults. The poll used a sample selected from YouGov's opt-in online panel to match the demographics and other characteristics of the adult U.S. population. Factors considered include age, race, gender, education, employment, income, marital status, number of children, voter registration, time and location of Internet access, interest in politics, religion and church attendance.

posted April 06, 2013 02:50 PM            

Call it an ethical issue with them

B) so what? 5% or so don't believe the moon landings actually happened.

C) a "state" religion is very different from an "official" religion, say the Anglican church's status pretty much ruined the Anglican "church"

I agree with Doomlord, even as a Christian this is a bad idea.

That is not to say I don't believe a Valedictorian should have their speech censored as they thanked Christ for achieving that status, I find that disgusting and think accommodation should be made for the expression of Faith.

posted April 06, 2013 03:00 PM            

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posted April 06, 2013 03:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
In the end times prophecy, there is a World religion. It is a conglomeration of all the religions except for the Bible believers. They stand alone, as usual.

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posted April 06, 2013 03:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Oh no AA, they are raptured out of this world..

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posted April 06, 2013 03:46 PM            

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One Third Of Americans Favor Having A State Religion!

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posted April 06, 2013 04:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
[QUOTE]One Third Of Americans Favor Having A State Religion!

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Creepy.
Very bad.
It is 2013 not The Dark Ages.
No other comment.

In some ways I differ, for example literacy rates in some inner city school systems are simply abysmal.

"The Dark Ages" at least featured some who could read, in some areas in the US it literally is the dark ages, and yet, the residents are cut off from any sense of a connection to the Most High or even literacy.

There is a false assumption that everyone is "like me" a sort of egotism, that is failing and failing badly literal millions of young people in the United States.

posted April 06, 2013 11:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
In some ways I differ, for example literacy rates in some inner city school systems are simply abysmal.

"The Dark Ages" at least featured some who could read, in some areas in the US it literally is the dark ages, and yet, the residents are cut off from any sense of a connection to the Most High or even literacy.

There is a false assumption that everyone is "like me" a sort of egotism, that is failing and failing badly literal millions of young people in the United States.

But, heaven forbid, they actually read the Scriptures..that would be bad m'kay.

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I think language lessons should just be used more effectively to at least give the young people the knowledge of it for them to use then they wish.

I can see how giving them the bible can seem like brainwashing since religion should not be part of the curriculum (unless ALL religions do) and people should be allowed to reach it by themselves.

Also, young people are impressionable so teaching anything related to conflicting topics can seem like brainwashing.

posted April 09, 2013 02:11 PM            

i am very glad to hear doomlord, who knows where this goes, has been forthcoming here!

it may be a small percentage, padre, but it is a LARGE percentage of the republican base, and that is scary if the republicans get more control.

fortunately this selfish perspective on religion...wanting to make one official legally!..is one of the things that has alienated many from the republican party so its threat loses power in the broader spectrum.

posted April 09, 2013 07:34 PM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
I think language lessons should just be used more effectively to at least give the young people the knowledge of it for them to use then they wish.

I can see how giving them the bible can seem like brainwashing since religion should not be part of the curriculum (unless ALL religions do) and people should be allowed to reach it by themselves.

Also, young people are impressionable so teaching anything related to conflicting topics can seem like brainwashing.

From a person who studied bible from first grade even though he didn't want to

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Fair enough Doomlord, for me it appears that once even home bible study among the family was discarded literacy in the US has plummeted.

And I'm far from a biblical literalist as to me, it then negates some of the unpleasant messages the Scriptures detail.

The betrayal, lust, greed, envy, insanity, all parts of mankind's collective existence are glossed over or not engaged making the Scriptures a 1 dimensional document instead of the 3D ugly picture it exposes.

BUT, there is a difference between such a book informing principles and then trying to actively impose them on society via caveat of the law.

Put it this way, it was that same thing, the appeal of the Religious leadership of Jerusalem that led to the completely legal Crucifixion of Christ.

posted April 10, 2013 01:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Fair enough Doomlord, for me it appears that once even home bible study among the family was discarded literacy in the US has plummeted.

And I'm far from a biblical literalist as to me, it then negates some of the unpleasant messages the Scriptures detail.

The betrayal, lust, greed, envy, insanity, all parts of mankind's collective existence are glossed over or not engaged making the Scriptures a 1 dimensional document instead of the 3D ugly picture it exposes.

BUT, there is a difference between such a book informing principles and then trying to actively impose them on society via caveat of the law.

Put it this way, it was that same thing, the appeal of the Religious leadership of Jerusalem that led to the completely legal Crucifixion of Christ.

I think that lesson is lost on far to many people.

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I can see what one might gain from bible study but its far too much of a controversy compared to our ordinary text books.

posted April 10, 2013 04:14 AM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
I can see what one might gain from bible study but its far too much of a controversy compared to our ordinary text books.

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posted April 10, 2013 09:15 AM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
I can see what one might gain from bible study but its far too much of a controversy compared to our ordinary text books.

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posted April 10, 2013 09:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
I'm thinking of at home, as for controversy, it's merely a book, paper, ink, cover etc.

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At home its up to theparents to decide (but who would teach him)

And its not just a book and you know it.
Its filled with religious content that might damage a childs mind with some of the discriptions and laws they have there.

posted April 10, 2013 09:37 AM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
At home its up to theparents to decide (but who would teach him)

And its not just a book and you know it.
Its filled with religious content that might damage a childs mind with some of the discriptions and laws they have there.

Anyway if a parent wants to teach his child bible he will but forcing parent to teach their children bible is twice as controversial.

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Clearly, next thing one knows, they have a meth lab in the basement and are marching at a occupy wall street event.

posted April 10, 2013 09:48 AM            

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Clearly, next thing one knows, they have a meth lab in the basement and are marching at a occupy wall street event.

That is hi-llarious.

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posted April 10, 2013 10:16 AM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
I wonder how this is a comment to what i wrote...

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"..it is filled with religious content and may damage a child's mind.."

posted April 10, 2013 10:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
"..it is filled with religious content and may damage a child's mind.."

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Tell me how in the bible there is no mention of killing certain people, or that certain people have only certain roles to play in their lives,or there should be only certain ways of behaviour.

Oh and how many videos my friends sent me of stupid children taking the bible ghe wrong way and saying terrible things they cant even understand themselves.

posted April 10, 2013 10:48 AM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
Tell me how in the bible there is no mention of killing certain people, or that certain people have only certain roles to play in their lives,or there should be only certain ways of behaviour.

Oh and how many videos my friends sent me of stupid children taking the bible ghe wrong way and saying terrible things they cant even understand themselves.

But mock me...its not like you are in the risk population if this happens

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Just sounded like a "..we are not going to fall for another banana in the tailpipe.." moment.

There is plenty of mentions of people killing people, your avg Tarzan novella has the same themes, ditto Harry Potter etc.

posted April 10, 2013 11:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Just sounded like a "..we are not going to fall for another banana in the tailpipe.." moment.

There is plenty of mentions of people killing people, your avg Tarzan novella has the same themes, ditto Harry Potter etc.

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But people dont worship tarzan and wont follow his "rules"

I know that fom your side it might sound completly retarded but many people see the bible as an instruction manual and when they see "kill" or anything the like they believe it to be true.

It happens here too....especially since we have a state religion and the bible is shoved everywhere they can shove it (i was invited to go through the "giur" process by the militairy which is terrible by itself but thats a story for another day) and people take it the wrong way that leads to people hating each other, hurting others (burning non-kosher stores) and causing fear (like gay youth clubs that are armed to the teeth)

posted April 10, 2013 11:11 AM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
But people dont worship tarzan and wont follow his "rules"

I know that fom your side it might sound completly retarded but many people see the bible as an instruction manual and when they see "kill" or anything the like they believe it to be true.

It happens here too....especially since we have a state religion and the bible is shoved everywhere they can shove it (i was invited to go through the "giur" process by the militairy which is terrible by itself but thats a story for another day) and people take it the wrong way that leads to people hating each other, hurting others (burning non-kosher stores) and causing fear (like gay youth clubs that are armed to the teeth)

So it aint the ridiculous from where i stand :/

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And that has what to do with just basic literacy in the US?

And I've seen pro gay marriage activists beat the snot out of little old lady mormon types for supporting traditional marriage

News flash Doomlord..people are violent and illogical, irrational and reject any notion of a metaphysical reality.

posted April 10, 2013 11:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
And that has what to do with just basic literacy in the US?

And I've seen pro gay marriage activists beat the snot out of little old lady mormon types for supporting traditional marriage

News flash Doomlord..people are violent and illogical, irrational and reject any notion of a metaphysical reality.

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A news flash to you... pushing bible to their heads will turn them even more retarded and violent and feel like they are justified in their actions.

posted April 10, 2013 12:13 PM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
A news flash to you... pushing bible to their heads will turn them even more retarded and violent and feel like they are justified in their actions.

You gave the bible idea as a method of increasing literacy and I showed you how useless it might be.

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As a child the bible was used extensively to teach and yes as a child
I was damaged both psychologically and physically because of its teachings.
The atrocities therein documented were vile and even obscene and I would ask why and be told we are not supposed to question the word of god.
I would see adults all happy about the horrors described in the bible and question why killing and rape, torture, stealing etc. were things to be happy about.
It confused and freaked me out to say the least.
I had as a small young child,
and still get,
horrible nightmares because Of adults telling me the bible was all good;
then beating me, whipping me bloody, when I questioned and also read the ugly passages I was told were forbidden.
The bibles are not a G rated thing to use to teach literacy.
They are not the make believe of Harry Potter or Tarzan.
Harry Potter and Tarzan books do not deal with this kind of putrid evilness:
http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm

The bibles are touted as truth, important, holy, things to be followed.
Therein lies serious danger.
If folks follow it, and some do, to the letter,
things would be beyond horrible.
http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm

Teaching children this filth is child abuse in my point of view.
Or in my case severely punishing me for questing it.
Even as a tiny young child I easily saw and questioned the evilness written therein.
To this day it disgusts me that adults ignore the ugliness there or try to say it was the will of god so all those atrocities were just fine.
This site lists the evilness,
that yes to all the ones in denial;
yes these things are indeed from your "good book".
http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm