posted May 26, 2013 08:03 AM            

It is incorrect and comes from fundamental right wing sources. They are trying to divert you from a message of love and unity.

This is what Pope Francis said and it IS from a reliable source, the Huffington Post.

Pope Francis Says Atheists Who Do Good Are Redeemed, Not Just Catholics

Pope Francis rocked some religious and atheist minds today when he declared that everyone was redeemed through Jesus, including atheists.

During his homily at Wednesday Mass in Rome, Francis emphasized the importance of "doing good" as a principle that unites all humanity, and a "culture of encounter" to support peace.

This is exactly how fundamentalist twist and debase the very good said and done.

then he went on to say:

posted May 26, 2013 08:08 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Did anyone think to check the dubious info in the opening post????? Be cautious of sources as it is a problem elsewhere as well.

It is incorrect and comes from fundamental right wing sources. They are trying to divert you from a message of love and unity.

This is what Pope Francis said and it IS from a reliable source, the Huffington Post.

Pope Francis Says Atheists Who Do Good Are Redeemed, Not Just Catholics

Pope Francis rocked some religious and atheist minds today when he declared that everyone was redeemed through Jesus, including atheists.

During his homily at Wednesday Mass in Rome, Francis emphasized the importance of "doing good" as a principle that unites all humanity, and a "culture of encounter" to support peace.

This is exactly how fundamentalist twist and debase the very good said and done.

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posted May 26, 2013 10:28 AM            

you quoted me twice, hehe

I believe,

Everything Happens for a Reason.

posted May 26, 2013 03:19 PM            

quote:

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Doing good, caring, love for all humanity, that is what matters.

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Preach it, Lexx!
By their fruits ye shall know them.

quote:

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Originally posted by juniperb:
That`s right lexx

Love thy neighbor as thyself. That includes all races, religions, gays ... et al.
That is the Christ`s central message.

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Paul: "For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous."

Paul to the Athenians, who perceived the Christ Being long before the man Jesus was born: "What you now worship as something unknown, I am going to proclaim to you"

I believe that the atheist who resists evil, who lives honorably, who holds high truth and justice, service and compassion, and then acts accordingly, this man knows Christ better than the Sadducees in the temple who did not recognize Him.

Remember the Samaritan and the Levite.

posted May 26, 2013 03:32 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Did anyone think to check the dubious info in the opening post????? Be cautious of sources as it is a problem elsewhere as well.

It is incorrect and comes from fundamental right wing sources. They are trying to divert you from a message of love and unity.

This is what Pope Francis said and it IS from a reliable source, the Huffington Post.
[b]
Pope Francis Says Atheists Who Do Good Are Redeemed, Not Just Catholics

Pope Francis rocked some religious and atheist minds today when he declared that everyone was redeemed through Jesus, including atheists.

During his homily at Wednesday Mass in Rome, Francis emphasized the importance of "doing good" as a principle that unites all humanity, and a "culture of encounter" to support peace.

This is exactly how fundamentalist twist and debase the very good said and done.

then he went on to say:

"Pope Francis is saying, more clearly than ever before, that Christ offered himself as a sacrifice for everyone. That's always been a Christian belief. You can find St. Paul saying in the First Letter to Timothy that Jesus gave himself as a "ransom for all." But rarely do you hear it said by Catholics so forcefully, and with such evident joy. And in this era of religious controversies, it's a timely reminder that God cannot be confined to our narrow categories." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/pope-francis-good-atheists_n_3320757.html [/B]

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He said people can get to Jesus through good deeds. That goes against the Bible, My Friend. I don't know where or how you read the Bible but that ain't it

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posted May 26, 2013 04:18 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Emeraldopal:
jellyfishtry,

you quoted me twice, hehe

I believe,

Everything Happens for a Reason.

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sorry dear!! was having an off day, and was a bit puzzled...am starting to see where you were coming from yesterday with some of these posts though.....anyway still i don't think people are bad and feel sorry for some real insane posts that are almost like spam....
how can anyone have a problem with someone saying that doing good will bring you more good basically...

posted May 26, 2013 04:27 PM            

It's A11 Ggod!

you put out a question
to God-Universe..

the answer

is

'yes'

posted May 28, 2013 07:27 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by juniperb:
That`s right lexx

Love thy neighbor as thyself. That includes all races, religions, gays ... et al.
That is the Christ`s central message.

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posted May 28, 2013 05:02 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by anascorp:
For love alone has the power to bring peace at history's twilight hour to Earthlings of good will. -Linda Goodman

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posted May 28, 2013 05:03 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by juniperb:
That`s right lexx

Love thy neighbor as thyself. That includes all races, religions, gays ... et al.
That is the Christ`s central message.

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posted July 07, 2013 09:59 PM            

Leviticus 19:31 ESV / 117 helpful votes

“Do not turn to mediums or necromancers; do not seek them out, and so make yourselves unclean by them: I am the Lord your God.

Leviticus 20:6 ESV / 112 helpful votes

“If a person turns to mediums and necromancers, whoring after them, I will set my face against that person and will cut him off from among his people.

1 John 4:1 ESV / 102 helpful votes

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Deuteronomy 18:10-12 ESV / 97 helpful votes

There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you.

Matthew 7:15 ESV / 66 helpful votes

“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Deuteronomy 18:9-12 ESV / 57 helpful votes

“When you come into the land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you.

Leviticus 20:27 ESV / 55 helpful votes

“A man or a woman who is a medium or a necromancer shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them.”

Galatians 5:19-21 ESV / 43 helpful votes

Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

2 Chronicles 33:6 ESV / 42 helpful votes

And he burned his sons as an offering in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, and used fortune-telling and omens and sorcery, and dealt with mediums and with necromancers. He did much evil in the sight of the Lord, provoking him to anger.

Acts 19:17-19 ESV / 30 helpful votes

And this became known to all the residents of Ephesus, both Jews and Greeks. And fear fell upon them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was extolled. Also many of those who were now believers came, confessing and divulging their practices. And a number of those who had practiced magic arts brought their books together and burned them in the sight of all. And they counted the value of them and found it came to fifty thousand pieces of silver.

Ezekiel 13:18 ESV / 24 helpful votes

And say, Thus says the Lord God: Woe to the women who sew magic bands upon all wrists, and make veils for the heads of persons of every stature, in the hunt for souls! Will you hunt down souls belonging to my people and keep your own souls alive?

Acts 8:9-13 ESV / 22 helpful votes

But there was a man named Simon, who had previously practiced magic in the city and amazed the people of Samaria, saying that he himself was somebody great. They all paid attention to him, from the least to the greatest, saying, “This man is the power of God that is called Great.” And they paid attention to him because for a long time he had amazed them with his magic. But when they believed Philip as he preached good news about the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Even Simon himself believed, and after being baptized he continued with Philip. And seeing signs and great miracles performed, he was amazed.

Exodus 7:10-12 ESV / 19 helpful votes

So Moses and Aaron went to Pharaoh and did just as the Lord commanded. Aaron cast down his staff before Pharaoh and his servants, and it became a serpent. Then Pharaoh summoned the wise men and the sorcerers, and they, the magicians of Egypt, also did the same by their secret arts. For each man cast down his staff, and they became serpents. But Aaron's staff swallowed up their staffs.

Acts 16:16-19 ESV / 17 helpful votes

As we were going to the place of prayer, we were met by a slave girl who had a spirit of divination and brought her owners much gain by fortune-telling. She followed Paul and us, crying out, “These men are servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to you the way of salvation.” And this she kept doing for many days. Paul, having become greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, “I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.” And it came out that very hour. But when her owners saw that their hope of gain was gone, they seized Paul and Silas and dragged them into the marketplace before the rulers.

Hebrews 6:4-6 ESV / 15 helpful votes

For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt.

Romans 12:17-21 ESV / 15 helpful votes

Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Isaiah 8:19-20 ESV / 15 helpful votes

And when they say to you, “Inquire of the mediums and the necromancers who chirp and mutter,” should not a people inquire of their God? Should they inquire of the dead on behalf of the living? To the teaching and to the testimony! If they will not speak according to this word, it is because they have no dawn.

1 Samuel 15:23 ESV / 15 helpful votes

For rebellion is as the sin of divination, and presumption is as iniquity and idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the Lord, he has also rejected you from being king.”

Deuteronomy 18:20-22 ESV / 15 helpful votes

But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the Lord has not spoken?’— when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.

Revelation 16:13 ESV / 14 helpful votes

And I saw, coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs.

John 14:26 ESV / 14 helpful votes

But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

Exodus 22:18 ESV / 13 helpful votes

“You shall not permit a sorceress to live.

Revelation 21:8 ESV / 12 helpful votes

But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

Ezekiel 13:22-23 ESV / 11 helpful votes

Because you have disheartened the righteous falsely, although I have not grieved him, and you have encouraged the wicked, that he should not turn from his evil way to save his life, therefore you shall no more see false visions nor practice divination. I will deliver my people out of your hand. And you shall know that I am the Lord.”

Jeremiah 14:14 ESV / 11 helpful votes

And the Lord said to me: “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I did not send them, nor did I command them or speak to them. They are prophesying to you a lying vision, worthless divination, and the deceit of their own minds.

Leviticus 19:26 ESV / 10 helpful votes

“You shall not eat any flesh with the blood in it. You shall not interpret omens or tell fortunes.

Revelation 22:15 ESV / 9 helpful votes

Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

2 Thessalonians 2:9 ESV / 8 helpful votes

The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders,

2 Kings 17:16-17 ESV / 8 helpful votes

And they abandoned all the commandments of the Lord their God, and made for themselves metal images of two calves; and they made an Asherah and worshiped all the host of heaven and served Baal. And they burned their sons and their daughters as offerings and used divination and omens and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the Lord, provoking him to anger.

Deuteronomy 18:12 ESV / 8 helpful votes

For whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you.

Revelation 21:11 ESV / 7 helpful votes

Having the glory of God, its radiance like a most rare jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal.

Galatians 5:20 ESV / 7 helpful votes

Idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions,

Romans 12:18-21 ESV / 7 helpful votes

If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Ezekiel 13:6-7 ESV / 7 helpful votes

They have seen false visions and lying divinations. They say, ‘Declares the Lord,’ when the Lord has not sent them, and yet they expect him to fulfill their word. Have you not seen a false vision and uttered a lying divination, whenever you have said, ‘Declares the Lord,’ although I have not spoken?”

Revelation 16:14 ESV / 6 helpful votes

For they are demonic spirits, performing signs, who go abroad to the kings of the whole world, to assemble them for battle on the great day of God the Almighty.

Hebrews 1:14 ESV / 6 helpful votes

Are they not all ministering spirits sent out to serve for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation?

2 Timothy 3:5 ESV / 6 helpful votes

Having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.

Galatians 5:21 ESV / 6 helpful votes

Envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Romans 12:17-20 ESV / 6 helpful votes

Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.”

Jeremiah 29:23 ESV / 5 helpful votes

Because they have done an outrageous thing in Israel, they have committed adultery with their neighbors' wives, and they have spoken in my name lying words that I did not command them. I am the one who knows, and I am witness, declares the Lord.’”

1 Chronicles 10:13-14 ESV / 5 helpful votes

So Saul died for his breach of faith. He broke faith with the Lord in that he did not keep the command of the Lord, and also consulted a medium, seeking guidance. He did not seek guidance from the Lord. Therefore the Lord put him to death and turned the kingdom over to David the son of Jesse.

2 Kings 9:22 ESV / 5 helpful votes

And when Joram saw Jehu, he said, “Is it peace, Jehu?” He answered, “What peace can there be, so long as the whorings and the sorceries of your mother Jezebel are so many?”

Revelation 22:14 ESV / 4 helpful votes

Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates.

Acts 8:1-40 ESV / 2 helpful votes

And Saul approved of his execution. And there arose on that day a great persecution against the church in Jerusalem, and they were all scattered throughout the regions of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles. Devout men buried Stephen and made great lamentation over him. But Saul was ravaging the church, and entering house after house, he dragged off men and women and committed them to prison. Now those who were scattered went about preaching the word. Philip went down to the city of Samaria and proclaimed to them the Christ. ...

Jeremiah 8:2 ESV / 2 helpful votes