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Pisces-Sweety
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posted July 28, 2013 04:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces-Sweety     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
P-S

You must be feeling 10 exclamation marks to your complaint right now.

I would say there are religious zealots and athiest/agnostic zealots and both are exasperating.

There is room for all and DepTaurus is right. Set your boundries. Do remember, your boundries for another is the same for you . Don`t try to convert another, don`t wear your Faith like a badge and always know your God loves the athiest as much as S/he loves you.

There is always a graceful exit from a conversion conversation aka disagreement .

We each by example.



^^ Hahaha! Mostly, I had exclamation marks on the amount of responses I've gotten. I never really force my opinion (Especially in religion) on anyone because I feel like everyone has a religion but this person just mocked the way these people were praying. I mean come on! It's one thing to not like them and it's another thing to refer to something completely disgusting related to them. That's why I started this thread.

I understand why religious people get a lot of hate but it just seems to me nowadays that the majority of the people makes fun of religious people because it's "cool". At some point I couldnt even say I was religious because the people I was with would make fun of me. That's just awful. That's why I get upset.

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posted July 28, 2013 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Pisces-Sweety:
it just seems to me nowadays that everyone makes fun of religious people because it's "cool". At some point I couldnt even say I was religious because the people I was with would make fun of me. That's just awful. That's why I get upset.


I don't think that's true. When people lack self-confidence then even the slightest criticism...or even failure to affirm...can come off as "the world is hating on me" when that's not the case.

I do recall these teens in a Texas high school who thought they were such rebels for praying in the morning before classes. Of course that's not illegal, not even in California (though a popular lie is that it is rather than schools can't mandate prayer) and they were mocked a lot...not for praying but for thinking they were such rebels for doing so. Of course the praying kids thought they were being mocked for being Christian (and failing to realize many mocking them were also Christian) which excluded them from everyone else and thus forcing them together more so they became a bit cult-like about it. It was an ironic vicious circle.

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posted July 28, 2013 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces-Sweety     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by PixieJane:
[B] I don't think that's true. When people lack self-confidence then even the slightest criticism...or even failure to affirm...can come off as "the world is hating on me" when that's not the case.

Pixie, It has nothing to do with lack of self confidence at any criticism. Criticism is criticism and it will ALWAYS hurt no matter who it comes from. It's about the other person completely lacking respect for your beliefs and just mocking them whenever they feel like it. Yes, I'm aware that it's a vicious circle but then again, it depends on the person. If that person has not tried shoving their religious beliefs down your throat then you shouldn't think that it's alright for you to do so by mocking their beliefs.

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posted July 28, 2013 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:

where on Earth did such a rude thing happen?
I cannot imagine the scene of such a thing happening to a believer.
To unbelievers, yeah too often.


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Originally posted by Faith:
I know you aren't addressing me, but I did come up against hostile opinions when I was religious. Of course, people can be deliberately insulting on purpose about anything that comes to mind. But if you honestly don't see how religious people are mocked nowadays (?)...then here is just one short example:

Richard Dawkins: Militant Atheism
^ At around the 5:05 mark, where he first introduces the concept of militant atheism, the crowd seems delighted.

His whole speech takes on a mocking, derisive attitude towards believers in God, and that attitude is actually pretty common in the US (which is why he was so warmly received.)


Just the same as a mocking attitude towards non-believers is common amongst Christians.

He does the same thing Christians do,
"some" Christians and some Atheists.
He did not go up to Pisces-Sweety and do that to her personally.
And thank you for saying this:

quote:
Just the same as a mocking attitude towards non-believers is common amongst Christians.
Yes both sides can be very vocal about their views.
And yes I am aware of Dawkins.
But on this thread we were I though addressing an actual personal attack on Pisces-Sweety, not a thing seen online.
So no, in real life in person in my area, in my life to date;
I have never seen a non believer just go up to a believer and start telling them they are stupid in their beliefs.
In fact we non believers are rather guarde4d in real like around believers;
especially ones flaunting it with crucifixes and more;
like even my family doctor who has a 12 foot tall painting/sign of Jesus and bible quotes in the front of his office.
We unbelievers keep our mouths shut unless the believer actually starts preaching.
I ignore his Jesus billboard and his Christian ties and tie clips and jewelry and signs all over inside the waiting room.
My dentist is the same. Their religion is none of my business and even though their displays are extremely disturbing and offensive to me;
I keep my mouth shut as long as they keep their mouth shut about religion.
On the other hand, food pantries and Salvation Army and such will often treat non believers very badly once they find out that no one sees you in their church and so forth.
And oh they do preach every chance they think they can.
Non believers around here try to not p!ss off Christians. Too many very scary potentially dangerous violent agressive ones.
So yeah;
I am VERY curious when and where Pisces-Sweety was mistreated by non Christians because I can not imagine anyone just going up to a believer and doing that.
HOW WOULD THEY EVEN KNOW SHE IS A BELIEVER?
Do they hunt for cross wearers?
Accost her outside a church?
In a Christian bookstore?
I mean,
where was she and what was she doing when it happened?
I don't even laugh in the faces of the trespassing JWs and other religious invaders of my personal space;
but I do ignore them and their annoying insulting offensive litter they leave behind.
I hate how often they make their little children do their dirty work.
That is child abuse in my opinion.
I am only stating things here to make my points.
Most unbelievers avoid conflict with Christians because A. It is not worth our time in real life to try to reason with them.
B. Not worth the danger and or community rejection backlash when they label us as "the enemy" and send out their "Christian soldiers" to "save us" or hurt us in whatever way they can get away with.
So yeah, the encounter Pisces-Sweety had is not a thing I have personally witnessed, except to be on the side of being a victim of believer invasions in my personal space.
I hope I made things clear this time.
I still want to know where and when this happened to her;
and how did they know she is a believer if she was not flaunting it?


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posted July 28, 2013 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces-Sweety     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 28, 2013 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces-Sweety     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First, the person knows i'm from this religion.

And two, we(My friend and I and 2 other people) were passing by a place and that person remarked that the people there looked like [Insert very disgusting insult]. That's what happened.

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posted July 28, 2013 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Pisces-Sweety:
It has nothing to do with lack of self confidence at any criticism. Criticism is criticism and it will ALWAYS hurt no matter who it comes from. It's about the other person completely lacking respect for your beliefs and just mocking them whenever they feel like it.

Correction: It ALWAYS hurts YOU. I grew up being mocked and while I was often annoyed or exasperated I didn't feel all hurt over it. Not everyone liked me, or likes me today. It's no big deal to me because I believe in myself (or maybe it's all those Sag placements I have...but plenty of people can shrug it off, or at least have perspective). Granted, I did learn not to put myself out there all the time, but it usually doesn't bother me...it's about like not waking up the parents while they're hungover or having a serious conversation with someone drunk, trivially annoying but not worth stressing over.


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Originally posted by Pisces-Sweety:
First, the person knows i'm from this religion.

And two, we(My friend and I and 2 other people) were passing by a place and that person remarked that the people there looked like [Insert very disgusting insult]. That's what happened.


Wait, are you saying this happened only ONCE?

If so, then wait until people find out what music or shows you like, you'll face even more criticism then.

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posted July 28, 2013 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces-Sweety     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Wait, are you saying this happened only ONCE?

Wait until people find out what music or shows you like, you'll face even more criticism then.



Does it really matter if it happened once or more? :P Really pixie? So cute of you! :P

And no, it's not the first time that's happened but this was one of the very offensive things that was absolutely unnecessary to say.

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posted July 28, 2013 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces-Sweety     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PixieJane: Correction: It ALWAYS hurts YOU. I grew up being mocked and while I was often annoyed or exasperated I didn't feel all hurt over it. Not everyone liked me, or likes me today. It's no big deal to me because I believe in myself (or maybe it's all those Sag placements I have...but plenty of people can shrug it off, or at least have perspective). Granted, I did learn not to put myself out there all the time, but it usually doesn't bother me...it's about like not waking up the parents while they're hungover or having a serious conversation with someone drunk, trivially annoying but not worth stressing over.


Don't emphasize me. You're a human being too no? You laugh, you cry, you get hurt, you get offended and so on. You're no exception. You might be stronger than most people but it doesn't mean you're strong enough ALL the time. It's good to have confidence in yourself but you have to realize that people on the outside are also looking at you and while you cannot please everybody, you also need to change something if you see that so many people dislike you or stop hanging around horrible people. I also grew up being mocked.

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posted July 28, 2013 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DepTaurus:
hey Pisces Sweety if you believe in god then you do.It's your right to believe in him and in your faith,you also have the choice to leave any conversation that goes against that.
Yes people have their own opinions and most will thrown them in your face but ultimately it's your choice to set your own boundaries, and at the end of the day if you don't like people who do this kind of thing to you then just walk away.
best advice i can give you because you don't have to take anything people say or act out.

quote:
Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
But when you call the opinions of others "ridiculous",
then you should not be surprised they feel the same about your opinions.
[b]And I must ask;
how do these people you call horrible and accuse of having ridiculous opinions;
get a chance to go at you;
where are they and you at when they try shoving their "ridiculous opinions" down your throat?
I highly doubt they are breaking into your private home or bedroom to insult or shove anything at you.
I really want to know the events surrounding your being laughed at by horrible people shoving what you see as their "ridiculous opinions" down your throat.


[/B]

quote:
Originally posted by DepTaurus:

I'm only giving her another option do you know what i mean lexx.I hope you do and i hope i can call you that by the way.Although i think i always have.

Even though it is not my user name now most folks still use it to address me. I changed it to Lexxigramer for a better numerological vibe.
quote:
Originally posted by DepTaurus:
Anyways Because their are tons of people out there in this world who do attack those who are religious and who attack those who also attack non believers. Whatever side your on i say if you can't agree with somebody else's beliefs than at least agree to disagree and press on.

Yes indeed.
quote:
Originally posted by DepTaurus:
I think it would be helpful to her if she just do that.

Which is why I have been asking where when how it happened. Why would anyone just go up to a perfect stranger and do that?
quote:
Originally posted by DepTaurus:

Whatever she has said about other's opinions being ridiculous well then that is something she needs to correct.

Yes. I found that offensive. It does show that she does not respect the views of others, that she believes, as a believer often does;
that only her views matter and are right.
This leads to not respecting the other person's right to believe or not the same.
Both sides do not think the other is right and yes, think they other is wrong or nutters.
But;
keep we must remember;
people are allowed to believe what they want to believe or not.
The key here is don't go shoving one's own views at another one.
That is happening far too much in my area to non believers and in politics these days.
And PixieJane is correct;
Atheists are seen as worse than communists by most believers.
quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:
atheists are even ranked below gays, generally speaking (according to one American poll). There was even a charity that refused a substantial donation because it was offered by an atheist.

However, atheists have been accused of "shoving their opinions" down the throats of others for not allowing others to do the same, but that's just classic projection. Of course many who are religious also support a secular society, but dishonest people who wish to impose their religion try to make it sound like everyone opposed to them is an evil atheist out to destroy believers. [/b]



This nonbeliever has helped with Christian based fundraisers, done art work for Christian publications/flyers advertising non preachy things like charity work/donations.
My beloved ex mother-in-law was a Christian but never preached. We had great conversations and there was no trouble betwixt us.
I respected her right to believe and she respected my right not to believe as she did.
A wonderful woman who is greatly missed.

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posted July 28, 2013 05:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces-Sweety     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How are you guys getting the "I'm dumping everyone into one category" from my post? I mentioned words like "SOME really horrible people.. "

I didn't dump everyone in one category. All I was saying is that SOME people really need to stop thinking it's cool to make fun of people praying or fun of religious people(At least towards those do not try to force their opinion on you. ) That is all!

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posted July 28, 2013 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Pisces-Sweety:

Does it really matter if it happened once or more? :P Really pixie? So cute of you! :P

And no, it's not the first time that's happened but this was one of the very offensive things that was absolutely unnecessary to say.


I meant to be light hearted, not offensive.

But honestly, I'm having a very difficult time in understanding your concerns here. One person says something mean to you once and you think the world is out to get you?

That doesn't seem reasonable to me. And surely you've been criticized for your clothes, choice of music, books, shows, etc. It's the way of the world.

And by "emphasizing" I was paraphrasing you, and pointing out that while it's true of you it's not true of me.

I need to get some sleep because this thread isn't making sense to me anyway. Sorry you were offended, that wasn't my intent.

My granny is an awesome Christian, btw, and I'm fine with plenty of others.

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posted July 28, 2013 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces-Sweety     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dep Taurus: When I said the word "Ridiculous" I meant, how SOME of these people feel the need to really insult people who are praying like that. I mean, to each his own. It's okay to have an opinion, it's not okay to degrade them the way this person did.

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posted July 28, 2013 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces-Sweety     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:
I meant to be light hearted, not offensive.

But honestly, I'm having a very difficult time in understanding your concerns here. One person says something mean to you once and you think the world is out to get you?

That doesn't seem reasonable to me. And surely you've been criticized for your clothes, choice of music, books, shows, etc. It's the way of the world.

And by "emphasizing" I was paraphrasing you, and pointing out that while it's true of you it's not true of me.

I need to get some sleep because this thread isn't making sense to me anyway. Sorry you were offended, that wasn't my intent.

My granny is an awesome Christian, btw, and I'm fine with plenty of others.



^^^

Okay so I don't think you're getting my point here. It's NOT about the world GETTING me! Where on earth are you even getting this from? Really, where? Just tell me! How did you get that from ANYTHING I said?

Yes, I've been criticized for a lot of stuff but look, Religion has ALWAYS been a sensitive subject to people, this is why some wars happen. That's all.

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Guys this thread is glitching....
please hold off posting on it a few hours until it stabilizes.

Have informed Randall.

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Closing this thread until Randall says it has stopped glitching.

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LL was spiking earlier this morning. It didn't affect posting much (was slow, but people kept posting away). I didn't fix it till after 11 am. So, the thread might be okay now.

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Guys how did this thread come to this...she was clearly saying that it is not okay to make fun of another person's belief or disbelief for that matter.

Lexxie you know that i like you, so i say this in a friendly manner, but your post also took the same zealous tone of the people who probably caused you trouble.

She did not say she is christian, or half of what you thought she did.
and even if she did she is not the same people who acted so horribly towards you (and to be honest, no where near the spirit of the Messiah....if am not wrong, his life story is about a person who was against judging others "may he who is without a sin...")

judging others because of what they believe in (or don't believe in) is bigotry at its worst, when they aren't imposing their opinion, and this is what i think the OP was complaining about.

Personally i never ask a person about their religion (if they want to tell me that is fine, i may even learn something, but am not going to ask) and i don't answer when i'm asked,(thought i think "The Life of Brian" is the most brilliant movie ever made when it comes to religion heh) as it really is no one elses business lol.

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Originally posted by jellyfishtry:

Guys how did this thread come to this...she was clearly saying that it is not okay to make fun of another person's belief or disbelief for that matter.

Lexxie you know that i like you, so i say this in a friendly manner, but your post also took the same zealous tone of the people who probably caused you trouble.

She did not say she is christian, or half of what you thought she did.
and even if she did she is not the same people who acted so horribly towards you (and to be honest, no where near the spirit of the Messiah....if am not wrong, his life story is about a person who was against judging others "may he who is without a sin...")

judging others because of what they believe in (or don't believe in) is bigotry at its worst, when they aren't imposing their opinion, and this is what i think the OP was complaining about.

Personally i never ask a person about their religion (if they want to tell me that is fine, i may even learn something, but am not going to ask) and i don't answer when i'm asked,(thought i think "The Life of Brian" is the most brilliant movie ever made when it comes to religion heh) as it really is no one elses business lol.


I am not going to argue with you.
I disagree with you and your analysis of me and your analysis of her.you said:
quote:
Originally posted by jellyfishtry:
judging others because of what they believe in (or don't believe in) is bigotry at its worst, when they aren't imposing their opinion, and this is what i think the OP was complaining about.

The person she knew and sounds like they were being a jerk; but she accused them of shoving their "ridiculous opinions" down her throat. She judged their belief just as she claims they did to her. Being they know each other, I wonder how many other times they got on each others nerves? The information on who what when where why, to gain a clearer picture as to what exactly happened;....was important information needed to fairly assess the situation, details that I did not get right off, even though I kept asking.
I mainly wanted to know who, when, where it happened because I could not imagine perfect strangers doing that.
I also could not figure out what exactly she/they were doing or not.
She FINALLY answered my questions and it was not the big deal she made it out to be.
Some people joked about a picture from what I understood;
not at her.
She however did call in essence non believer's opinions stupid.
If you had read all my posts thoroughly you would see I am not as you seem to want to paint me out as being.
You are it appears a believer so in your eyes nothing I say will make you see my points at all.
I never said she was like the rabid Christians.
I just wanted to understand exactly what happened because her original post was very unclear.
I guess asking for clarification is a no no.
I was supposed to take what she said on faith?
Glad I did not because her story was NOT the attack she made it out to be at the beginning.
If it had been an atheist saying Christians attacked her;
I would have asked the same kind of questions!
Who, what, when, where, why, and what were they doing that made the Christians attack?
I would not just buy their allegations without knowing the entire story.

And NO the original post was not "just that it is not okay to make fun of another person's belief or disbelief for that matter."
She called their opinions ridiculous and they were not aimed at her but a picture if I finally understand it correctly?
I do not like seeing religious pictures posted in public either. I find it offensive.
So those pictures that I and others find offensive we cannot speak about?
Why does that make us bad?
Why are those pictures allowed to be shoved in our faces? They are all over the place these days.
Most of us just try to ignore these images and passive aggressive displays/preachings/advertising.
Point is;
were they attacking her and her belief in her god and prayer, or the picture posted out there in public that they had no choice but to see?
Most of us disbelievers do our best to ignore the prolific and invasive projections seen around here; mainly various sects of Christian propaganda, preachings, threats, and so forth on billboards and in hundreds of small numerous insidious ways poured out into the world around us. We do not do that.
I was not attacking her.
I just wanted to know exactly what happened.
I will shut up for now because it seems I am viewed as an evil or a mean and "ridiculous opinions" unbeliever, and asking those logical rational simple questions is a big no no, and my words are dirt to the ears of many believers.
Just shaking my head here in amazement.


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posts glitching again Randall.

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Once more, posting,
why I don't know....guess I hate being painted in an incorrect light.....

quote:
Originally posted by Pisces-Sweety:
It has nothing to do with lack of self confidence at any criticism. Criticism is criticism and it will ALWAYS hurt no matter who it comes from. It's about the other person completely lacking respect for your beliefs and just mocking them whenever they feel like it.

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Correction: It ALWAYS hurts YOU. I grew up being mocked and while I was often annoyed or exasperated I didn't feel all hurt over it. Not everyone liked me, or likes me today. It's no big deal to me because I believe in myself (or maybe it's all those Sag placements I have...but plenty of people can shrug it off, or at least have perspective). Granted, I did learn not to put myself out there all the time, but it usually doesn't bother me...it's about like not waking up the parents while they're hungover or having a serious conversation with someone drunk, trivially annoying but not worth stressing over.


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Originally posted by Pisces-Sweety:
First, the person knows i'm from this religion.
And two, we(My friend and I and 2 other people) were passing by a place and that person remarked that the people there looked like [Insert very disgusting insult]. That's what happened.


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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Wait, are you saying this happened only ONCE?

If so, then wait until people find out what music or shows you like, you'll face even more criticism then.



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posted July 28, 2013 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I see here is NOT a personal attack on Piseces-Sweety as described in her original post;
but instead the remarks of some callous immature insensitive jerk that it sounds like was walking with her and her friends;
someone she knows;
and not some random evil meanie coming out of nowhere bashing her religious beliefs; or shoving anything down her throat;
but just some jerk shooting his or her mouth off being a mouthy aszzhole.
I do not see that as shoving his her ridiculous opinions down her throat.
Most unbelievers would not act like that.
In fact most would be afraid of what the believer might do to us or get their buddies to do."shudder"
Seriously;
just making an offhand rude crude remark at some people or a picture, is not shoving anything down anyone's throat.
And the opinion that their opinion was ridiculous is her opinion.
That does not make her automatically right, nor them automatically wrong.
OK going now, hopefully made myself clearer.
I am not the enemy here some seem to want or need me to be.
Do not assume with me.
Ask ask ask, because I see way to much analyzing and opinions being done at me.
I am not always clear.
I am also not trying to fight.
Yes,
I am an unbeliever.
Do any of you have any idea how scary it is to say that? Wondering when the backlash will fall upon me?
Yes,
I am an unbeliever,
but I am not your enemy.


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posted July 28, 2013 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whatever happened obviously bothered her enough to vent here .

I suspect her intentions were not for a mini inqusition of sorts but to get input on the whys and wherefores of the situtation. Or to just vent.

I hope she will continue posting in DD and others feel the freedom to post here as well regardless of their faith or lack of.

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From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Feb 2012

posted July 28, 2013 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by juniperb:
Whatever happened obviously bothered her enough to vent here .

I suspect her intentions were not for a mini inqusition of sorts but to get input on the whys and wherefores of the situtation. Or to just vent.

I hope she will continue posting in DD and others feel the freedom to post here as well regardless of their faith or lack of.


I totally agree.
I just wanted to be clear on all the details.
And I hope she can understand that unbelievers get treated badly by some believers just as she was treated.
But its more accepted for her complaint than an unbeliever to be allowed to vent.
So I do understand how it feels.
Yes I hope we can all post here;
believers and unbelievers.

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