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FireMoon
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posted October 22, 2014 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My other thread was closed before I had a chance to reply, and I'm sure it's only a matter of time before this thread is closed too but this is an honest question...

If you're so adamantly religious and can't handle religious debates... Then why are you on an astrology forum?

Why does this forum cater to Christian viewpoints? Just some food for thought lol

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BellaFenice
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posted October 23, 2014 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honestly, I don't get it either. Obviously, the locked thread started with my comment. I simply disagreed with Ami's comment and probably should have provided more context.

I think it is a very slippery slope to say that being religious/being with God gives you morals because: 1) that implies if you aren't religious/believe in God you lack morals, 2) doesn't address the alternative that if you are religious that you can lack morals.

So my point was that for some religion may have provide moral basis, but I prefer to keep it out because it morals do not derive from one place or institution and it also creates a false black and white perception of things. People are allowed to disagree with me of course.

Religion is a tough thing to discuss period- people are always going to disagree and tend to take it personally when you deviate from their viewpoints. I try not to discuss it, because I know if I simply disagree people get salty about it.

Not going to answer your last question- I agree, and I will leave it at that. Honestly though, the religion issue wasn't my biggest concern in that thread.

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Randall
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posted October 23, 2014 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have a Forum on religion. Moving this there.

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FireMoon
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posted October 23, 2014 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, Randall!

I hope Ami Anne is paying you a great price to advertise here cause otherwise... really?

Otherwise don't worry I'll take my cue and not even respond further than this. Great community you've built here!

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FireMoon
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posted October 23, 2014 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Bella, it wasn't your fault at all. Ami provided no context regarding her comment either yet it was treated as an ideological golden egg representing all that is LL..

Debate is not allowed apparently. So please don't think it had anything to do with your logical counter-arguments...

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BellaFenice
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posted October 23, 2014 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Yeah, I agree. See the thing is, the topic thread you posted may have said religion, but there was more going on in that thread besides religion.

Why is a grown as.s man with kid on the way attacking a teenager?

Why did people get salty when I pointed out flaws in the argument?

Those are my issues with the thread, to me it is not even about religion.

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aquaguy91
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posted October 23, 2014 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Firemoon,
Randall just moved this topic to the appropriate sub-forum like he always does. I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with Ami. You are being a tad irrational in my opinion.

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Randall
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posted October 23, 2014 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, debate isn't allowed here. That's why I left the thread open.

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BellaFenice
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posted October 23, 2014 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I see your point (addressed to AG), but FireMoon wasn't only discussing religion. It also relates to debating and how the art of debating is lost. She honestly wanted to know why people can't have a debate without people getting upset about someone having a different view on religion. The people who she wanted to respond don't really post in here.

I understand why this was moved (one, it would get locked inevitably, two there is this forum), but FireMoon wanted a discussion, which really won't happen here.

The other thread (original) got locked because a grown man started attacking a teenager out of nowhere. I don't understand what Karka did wrong, the Satanic thing was addressing her beliefs and making a joke.

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FireMoon
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posted October 23, 2014 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Exactly. And DF was referring to KarkaQueen as Venusian Moon.. What??? He has nothing better to do really?

The meaning of irrational is lost to me at this point lol

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aquaguy91
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posted October 23, 2014 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
KQ was indeed trying to be a troll with that post. It should be very easy for most people to see that. DF just got irked by it and went on the attack. Not saying it's right or wrong, just telling it like it is. And apparently he thinks KQ is one of venusianmoon's other handles.

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FireMoon
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posted October 23, 2014 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Yes, all hail the all knowing DF

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aquaguy91
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posted October 23, 2014 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh lol. You guys are a bunch of Godless Heathens.

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PixieJane
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posted October 23, 2014 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I could say a lot but I won't because it's about members of LL and not religion.

I'm tired and honestly don't know how to treat this thread since it actually is about members more than the topic of religion. Randall moved it here so what I can I do?

I don't know if I'll be here tomorrow, got something special planned. I'll probably stop in briefly but not with a lot of time to think things through.

I don't know what to do with this thread, hope I can figure something out in a couple of days. Happy eclipse everyone.

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FireMoon
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posted October 23, 2014 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Ugh lol. You guys are a bunch of Godless Heathens.

Lol if only we knew the grace of DF and Barbiegirl.. We might stand a fighting chance!

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Randall
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posted October 23, 2014 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agreed. I moved it here because of the title, but it's really just talking about other members and an extension of a closed thread.

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