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posted March 30, 2015 04:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 07, 2015 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump to watch later.

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posted April 09, 2015 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I viewed the url... The woman's voice is sooo nice. I remember this from a long time ago now, wow~~ how cool. Thanks Athenegoddess!

I have some thoughts I'd like to share, based on this past Easter Week 2015... for which the Orthodox today is "Good Friday" .... The Man ON The Cross and Crucifix

Over the past days of our Eclipses, I watched the religious networks for the celebrations and vigil ceremonies.

And I ruminate how our society still grapples with issues of Women and women's roles in our society... especially in religious and moral culture.

Had a strange objective type experience as I looked upon a variety of ceremonies, in different geographical locations, and found myself watching the celebrations from a long-view-- an over-arching perspective. I spent much time in Catholicism, and other protestant type beliefs (over a span of 60 years, next month).


Women played a key role in the life of Jesus. According to scripture, Jesus was conceived WITHOUT the help (physical sperm) of a man. The mystery of spirit seeding itself and overcoming natural law, and beginning a creative-type miracle that caused the egg of a female to become fertile (on its own).

Jesus had a foster-Father (Joseph) here on earth who took care of him, but his actual Father was from an etheric realm.... Heaven seeding itself catalyzed into Earthen Being... Mary's "womb" encompassed (supported and wrapped and accepted the role of the care and nourishment over) a man who was born both Divine (Spirit-Father) and Human (Mary's earthly egg).


As I mentioned... When I watched the highest ranking males venerating the cross in Good Friday services, they kissed the cross, feet, or legs of Crucifix (the Cross with Jesus' body ON it).

From super-far-away, camera on the long-view during the Processions around the church building, with the Crucifix leading the way... I saw that the 'body' represented on the cross began to appear to me as something different--- The body began to "look" like the total female reproductive organs NAILED to the Cross....

Shocking? .... But think about how it looks....

His Hands were where the Ovaries would be,
his arms were the fallopian tubes,
and these lead to his chest cavity which looked like the uterus itself,
his Sacred Heart representing a womb within a womb of the Fertilized-Womb where Love dwelt.
His private parts (scorpio) were at the Cervix...
the place where the Mars-ruled sperm meets fertile Venus, and begins the Dance of Creation of something-Third, New and Other, which will gestate and eventually Be Born.
The two legs (Aquarius) representing the birth-canal where the birth-waters flood and flush-out and cleanse when babies are preparing to come forth-- birthing our New Aquarian Age...
His feet nailed together at the end-point and entry INTO earth-matter (Pisces/Aries recent eclipse at 29/0 degrees) showed the Way to a new Universal Consciousness beginning, and an old age coming to wrap up and end.

There are many sins (missing the mark of what is the Balanced Center point) that the Patriarchy (male energy) has unknowing (and knowingly) perpetrated against the female energies of this world and the world which is trying to innovate itself-- the energy of child and woman, and all that is sensitive, easy to overpower, take advantage over, and use for ones 'personal' selfish aims that impedes the ability of other to Live.

Mary The Mother of Jesus, was a woman-with-child in the story of Jesus' birth. (If you'll allow me to continue the imagery here). ..She represented the female creative energy, the miraculous, the innovative-- which long has been oppressed and suppressed.

When Jesus died, in a way (following along the lines of my thoughts here), he was a Male-specie who took on the job of BEING a spiritual Womb-Man. His purpose was to Birth a New Consciousness-- It was to be Neptune and dissolve all boundaries separating our ability to Be Conscious at the every-man level. It's for everyone now. He melded every layer between Pisces/Aries and lived out his life in Service. He embodied (in-the-Bod'ied) a living energy of Love and Compassion (the energetic female component of being truly an integrated human). He showed us a NEW Male-energy masculine way to BE, and live IN this world of ours.

We are all male and female "energies" INSIDE us. Society right now is working out (using genders) what that means to be identified as one or the other. We all have our control issues, and the ones of reception as well.

At the Cross, The Crucifixion, a way was opened.... a portal. And blockages that have been in the way of a healing flow between heaven and earth, male and female, giving authority and receiving authority, were first dealt-with and Cleared in the Energy realms. Finally, the spiritual could become Spiritual. A Highway, and a Higher way became available-- at the Will of our choosing.

I feel (in a mystical way of expressing here) as though there was an 'energy-healing' for the Collective THROUGH his life Beautifully (perfectly) lived. And in his accepting 'being' innocently put to death BY a corrupted (unlawful) authority system, he mystically-energetically became and MADE himself 'the spot' where we can hide or attach ourselves (energetically) in order to receive the 'grace' of that Healing that happened.

What he did spiritually, was between himself and his Father. He "worked out the Blockages" that were there from an accumulation of ages of time, and opened a portal where we (humanity) can actually have survival into the next series of Ages.

Right here and right now... we work on 'equality' between the roles of women and the heavy-handed leadership of the male-energies. Much beautiful work has been accomplished by many over the decades and generations, with still more working-out of these same issues but in new light of awareness and understanding (Uranus, Pluto, Neptune).

So I watched the Vatican Services. That Dear man, Pope Francis, was seated BENEATH (at the foot of) a giant (no-body?) cross. His chair appeared as a giant solid and immoveable square Rock (Peter, Authority), INTO WHICH the Cross of Matter was planted. (And it was fascinating to watch how shadows got formed and pasted on the walls behind him, during portions of the ceremonies.)

Pope Francis is a strong advocate of Peace and Compassion (the feminine-role that Christ represented) seated in the Chair of Authority (the tradition, the Patriarchy).....

To ME, watching all this?, I "Saw" the striving for a new and overt Humility for the church and the Patriarchy it represents. It's the loving and kind turning of one's attention towards a NEW kind of Right-Authority. A returning to Balances (Libra, our recent Easter Eclipse) and accountability (Pluto Uranus, "square" ) for the right and wrong actions of ANY KIND of Leadership.... (personal or group or societal). There is a new recognition of People abusing their Power and Position in this world OVER the feminine-energies of ones in positions of Vulnerability. Victimhood. These must be recompensed and made amends to...

So, when I saw each one of the individual male clergy, coming up to venerate the Crucifix.... I saw the opportunity for each individual to deeply look within, and 'allow' Christ's Healing Work to process any and every guiltiness. They "kissed" the HOLY WOMB-Man, the feminine, while wearing robes of the role of leadership, authority, patriarchy.

I see one of the roles of Pope Francis is that he really wants to make his priests and clergy more aware and more disciplined about the way they represent authority and the Church as it has-been. I see him working with 'his clergymen' helping them to truly REALIZE how Arrogant they can Act and behave within the churches-- and that this is repulsive. There is Hope for all.... including his clergy. They have to take their Conscience to 'the foot of the Cross' of Christ, and NOT take heed to what will become of them to admit fault, but to PURSUE that which is Right through grace of being able to be forgiven and to make amends.

Pope Francis is their Leader and Role Model... LOVE. Compassion, Peace.

We all lead in various ways in our lives, different layers of responsibility. In Everything, we must Encounter Christ in our Conscience, and have accountability to His authority in us, in one's "self."

How Unconscious some of these are who paraded with robes signifying their holy-authority... Unconscious of how they venerate their own image of what authority is, rather than the one that Christ lived (The Ceremony of the Washing of the Feet of the Disciples). These men are merely mortals... subject to corruption and fallible. Yet, under a seeming immunity to real consequences they have chosen to remain blind to.

On that high-seat of Privilege, they hold sway over the lives of the MANY.... and need Christ's mercy EVEN MORE. (The weight of having to Watch over so many lives & souls... and not realizing how much even-more GOOD they could do right now. They could turn this world around for the Better.)

Leadership, is a Privilege.... which MUST be served out in as MUCH HUMILITY and personal awareness and consciousness as possible.

There is so much GOOD that can be Birthed right now.... THROUGH Service to the Vulnerable in a way that is not Patronizing. These must be seen as having the Same Value as the one high-up on the pedestals.

When we can serve each other with Truest-borne Humility, when we can 'sense' that there is no one higher nor lower than the next..., when we all can be shifted and find our weights in Balance, then the World can truly say that they have entered that new portal into a more-divine New Age.

You cannot serve God and Mammon (the god of hungry-money, which is insatiable). You'll come to love the one, then despise the Other (scripture).

God has to come First.... When your Higher-Mind's Eye is in it's proper Rest {Single}, it ripples out in new waves of Understanding. The Corporate Body of Christ-Awakened is full of Light and knows it's purpose, and fulfills its destiny.

The Light of Single Awareness--- We will 'see' what effect our actions have with and upon each other. We will see where we 'missed the mark' of this passing age, and move with proper corrections towards long term gains. New is the time of cultivating the brother-sister-neighbor type of Love.

So Yes!... DO Take Jesus down from That Cross, and LIVE Him, BE Him, in your day-to-day existence.

*proofreading to see if my thoughts be clear enough... /probably will make major editing-- my thoughts are swirling, and my feelings are uneasy... My Heart just wants to wrap around the words I just can't seem to find *

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posted April 09, 2015 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ {deciding to leave the post as-is}...

"Take Jesus Down from the Cross!"... Jesus is not on the Cross anymore, but He is Present where people are gathered ... and there is Love.

Love one another....

(music) The Wedding Song (There Is Love) (Peter Paul & Mary, lyrics) [3:47] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZbhrO4IEtI

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posted April 10, 2015 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well-said.

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posted April 13, 2015 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well... in a way, 'sorry'? Didn't mean to sound sooo harsh (if it did come out that way)... Sometimes I see what's truly excellent. Making the excellence happen, is totally up to the individual, striving to align and balance with their own conscience, deep inside themselves.

What really matters after your day is done, when you lay down to sleep or when you awaken in the morning, is whether you took time to acknowledge and connect with what is most-excellent in you...

And did anything you think, say, or do, make even the slightest Positive Difference in someone else's life, that day. (I think this is true of the people here at LL.)

(scripture) Silver & Gold have I none, but out of that 'which I have' I offer in some small service, in this world...

(music) In The Bleak Midwinter (Julie Andrews) [3:51] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZimD5l5Xi4

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posted April 14, 2015 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not harsh at all.

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posted April 14, 2015 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love your spiraling

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Christian, Jew, Muslim, Shaman, Zoroastrian, stone, ground, mountain, river, each has a secret way of being with the Mystery, unique and not to be judged.
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posted April 15, 2015 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Randall

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posted April 16, 2015 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I happened to catch a broadcast on a catholic channel earlier today.

Mother Angelica,** Living With The Scriptures: Mark 5
(first aired 4/21/2003 EWTN)

At one point she pointed to the crucifix on her chest, and gently lovingly pointed out how people don't like seeing Jesus on the Cross. They'd rather see it smooth, clean, and all sanitized.

She said that seeing Jesus ON the Cross is a reminder of how "painful" Love can be.


I was soooo touched! I have a NEW way of looking at that Cross now.... It means something more-special than ever to me now.

So very humbled here. Isn't the Universe wonderful, and isn't God sooo good that 'the answer to questions we hold in our souls' can so Beautifully appear like that?

(music) What Wondrous Love is This O My Soul (Fernando Ortega) [5:01] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hj1Y__cYeg


Together, IN Love... WE make up the Collective Body of Christ

(music) You Are The New Day (The King's Singers) [2:46] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPlke_F605k
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** Note to add news of the passing of Mother Mary Angelica, age 92, Easter Sunday around 5pm, March 27, 2016. She was the foundress of a monastery, and as a media entrepreneur she was the first woman in American history to OWN a Television Broadcast Company.
Rest In Peace.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Angelica http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EWTN_Global_Catholic_Network

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Jesus doesn't want us to be in pain anymore, and the pain he went through was over quickly and had no power whatsoever. Pain isn't real and giving your power to it isn't what Jesus wants. He wants us to focus on the victory of his Resurrection.

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posted April 20, 2015 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I wouldn't be alive, otherwise

(music) Resurrection (danced by Selah Warriors) [4:29] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQg0xwETNwg

~~ !

(music) Ain't No Grave Gonna Hold My Body Down! (Audience of One) [5:28] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdX-77UhwgU

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posted April 21, 2015 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(music) Jesus You're the Center of My Joy (Richard Smallwood) [5:16] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py7ehvxaJoE

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posted April 28, 2015 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We all need each other... When disasters strike, riots and fires tear down cities, tornados rip, volcanos blast, earthquakes shake, planes fall out of the air and the sea swallows up passengers on ships; when people are cold, sick, hungry, exposed to the elements, or buried under piles of material and psychological rubble; when hearts are broken and hope seems naught, and your best friend you love is in depression, and the wounded soldier just wants to die:

We need to show up, and be with them. For the Glory of God let there be a common human meeting place at ground zero-- May there be no more division when life gets too real. We need to set all grievances aside and care for people.

Many Hands make the Work Light.

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I need you
You need me
We're all a part of God's Body
Stand with me
Agree with me
We're all a part of God's Body
It is God's Will
that every need shall be supplied

You are important to me
I need you to survive.

I pray for you
You pray for me
I love you
I need you to survive
I won't harm you
with words from my mouth

I love you!
I need you to survive.

It is God's Will that
every need shall be supplied
You are important to me
I need you to survive.

(music) I Need You To Survive (Juanita Bynam, min.) [9:13] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpLzqtK16RY

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posted April 30, 2015 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm so glad to be a part of the Divine Diversity represented here at Lindaland. Have noticed that the more-friendly Christians (non-extremists) have not been stepped up to share much in this forum as of late.

So, I've let my hair down a bit more here, about sharing (no, I don't wear a tight little bun~ if you thought that? j/k). I had stayed pretty-much self-restricted about sharing my other types of beliefs (structured ones) I'd been exposed to or been a practicing part of.

There's the Eastern religion's phrase, 'Namaste' (short--the Divine in me greets the Divine in you)

Well, I may have found a christian version of that eastern salutary greeting?

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The 'Jesus-in-me' loves 'Jesus-in-you'
The Jesus-in-me loves Jesus-in-you--
So easy!
So easy!
So easy-- You're easy to Love.

(music) So Easy To Love (Cornell's Chosen Gen Gosp Choir, acapella) [3:07] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSUecuWPwzc

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posted September 22, 2015 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today from Sundown till September 23, 2015 Sundown is The Jewish Day of At-ONE-ment (Atonement), Yom Kippur. It's the day on God's Holy calendar where the priest was able to enter into the Holy Place and make sacrifices to atone for sins of the community. A Lamb was Slain, and the priest was able to be face to face with God.

When Jesus died on the Cross, He was Our Lamb before God, slain once-and-for-all for the remission of all Sin. Sacrifices of animals are no longer needed. Jesus and the Father met all the requirements and this fulfilled the Law.

We now operate Under Grace... Under an Open and Blue Sky.

(music) Now Behold The Lamb (Kirk Franklin) [6:58] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CK1R1suY6U

ADD: September 23rd was also determined to be the birthdate of the historical Jesus. (December 25th was a 'borrowed' celebration day, but through records they have determined he was actually born 22nd or 23rd.) Equilibrium, Solstice 0-degress Libra ~~ (ref. preacher)

Happy Birthday to the Prince of Peace,
BE Our Harmony

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posted March 25, 2016 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good Friday, March 25, 2016 ...

(music) Rise Again (Dallas Holmes, clips from movie The Passion) [4:12] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExiGq3Mc2oU

(music) I Stretched Out My Hands (Fernando Ortega, The Riverbend Choir) [5:13] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbJDja7Ukpw

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posted March 27, 2016 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Easter, Everyone!

And a Happy Resurrection Sunday, 2016!

Celebrating the Ability to Transform our lives. The cycle of endings and New Beginnings. Starting NEW after the times in darkness.

God is The Power of Love, which gives us The Power To Do Good for the lives of Others.

He gave us the ability to be like Him. We are Christs walking on this Earth. Act on Goodness. Be the Candle, the dynamic contagion of Light IN this world.

....

(music) We Shall Overcome (Melanie DeMore, from Women Against War, March 14, 2008) [6:16] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3iN1aJ5kuw


I Will Be Your Standing Stone, I will stand by you....

(music) I Will Be Your Standing Stone (Melanie DeMore) [5:04] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm5obzcN3Xc

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Happy Easter!

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posted March 28, 2016 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted April 09, 2017 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump thread*
thoughts and readings for sacred season 2017

Holy Week
(cycle coincides w Orthodox/coptic this year)

Palm Sunday, April 9th
Holy Thursday, Passover/Seder, April 13th
Good Friday, April 14th
Easter/Resurrection Sunday, April 16th

link for additional music and prayers http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000686.html

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posted April 10, 2017 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted April 11, 2017 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda loved Easter. Her Easter poem is awesome. I'll try to post it soon.

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posted April 12, 2017 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Might not get to it before Easter Sunday, though.

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