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Sulkyarcher
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posted February 07, 2016 11:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if it's my Capricorn planets, my 10th house planets, or Saturn heavy chart, but
it feels like since I was born bad luck has followed me around, like a shadow. My bad luck is starting to dissolve slowly as I grow older. I'm 27 now.

It's not all bad though. I used to suffer deep/debilitating depression, but now I am a lot happier. I am also starting to use Law of Attraction and it's working, it feels like the universe is on my side, finally.

Anyone here feel that they have a karmic debt, or debts to pay off during this lifetime?

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PixieJane
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posted February 08, 2016 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. It sounds like "karma" is just attitude, if Law of Attraction overrides it.

That would actually make sense of what I've picked up from past life memories, that which we die with following us into other lives, not as "thwacks of correction" or whatever (which would be stupid and useless) but just the mental attitude died with being reborn and attracting similar circumstances.

That is, karma is just the law of attraction acting on a more subconscious level (and further influenced by others around you who also engage, consciously or otherwise, in the law of attraction) that stretches across lives.

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Sulkyarcher
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posted February 08, 2016 03:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Interesting. It sounds like "karma" is just attitude, if Law of Attraction overrides it.

That would actually make sense of what I've picked up from past life memories, that which we die with following us into other lives, not as "thwacks of correction" or whatever (which would be stupid and useless) but just the mental attitude died with being reborn and attracting similar circumstances.

That is, karma is just the law of attraction acting on a more subconscious level (and further influenced by others around you who also engage, consciously or otherwise, in the law of attraction) that stretches across lives.


Perhaps some people unconsciously attract negative things at the end of their previous life? Interesting.

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Randall
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posted February 09, 2016 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The link between Karma and LOA is probably too complex to be fully comprehended.

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posted February 09, 2016 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
The link between Karma and LOA is probably too complex to be fully comprehended.

And so is karma and LOA individually. Assuming either are real, of course, as opposed to confirmation bias that carefully selects what to count and what not to count to show why karma and/or LOA is real. In any case, I do know that the simplistic explanations of both are too easily discounted in my book. And yet, I know there is something to it all as well, just not the way most people explain.

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Sulkyarcher
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posted February 09, 2016 05:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
The link between Karma and LOA is probably too complex to be fully comprehended.

I get what you mean. I was born a depressed fetus/mentally ill fetus. Then my depression made me think dark/gray thoughts, then I attracted negative manifestations. It was my karma to attract/manifest those negative manifestations, because of my depression.

But it could have also been my karma to be born in an age where Law of Attraction is getting lots of attention, then I have the opportunity/doors open for me to attract better things!

So it's very complex, possibly even more complex than my situation.

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posted February 09, 2016 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 09, 2016 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:
Interesting. It sounds like "karma" is just attitude, if Law of Attraction overrides it.

That would actually make sense of what I've picked up from past life memories, that which we die with following us into other lives, not as "thwacks of correction" or whatever (which would be stupid and useless) but just the mental attitude died with being reborn and attracting similar circumstances.

That is, karma is just the law of attraction acting on a more subconscious level (and further influenced by others around you who also engage, consciously or otherwise, in the law of attraction) that stretches across lives.




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posted February 10, 2016 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Note taken.

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hypatia238
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posted February 27, 2017 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apparently I do, I have Venus conjunct Mars and Karma,Apophis,and Fortuna very tightly..with Chiron at the apex of a Yod in the 7H inconjunct Saturn exact and Cupido.

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Apparently I do, I have Venus conjunct Mars and Karma,Apophis,and Fortuna very tightly..with Chiron at the apex of a Yod in the 7H inconjunct Saturn exact and Cupido.

You're in a very spiritual mood yesterday, weren't you?

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posted February 28, 2017 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
You're in a very spiritual mood yesterday, weren't you?

Actually yes I sort of was, I had a client who is very spiritual talk to me about a technique she uses to help her with her fears and grow spiritually. She says that every time she feels fear she tries to identify were in her body she feels it and then tells herself "I let go of blank fear." She has found this simple technique very helpful.

I know there is definitely room for growth spiritually for me. Since I was little I have wanted to confront all my fears, must be Pluto ruling my chart conjuncting Saturn in the 12H, I feel is a big part of why I am here.

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posted August 19, 2018 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 21, 2018 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shulia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel I had a karma debt to pay too. Not so so heavy, but I feel I had to do some things for sure. I was born on a 4th day, so I know I had to learn without choice some lessons that I was delaying maybe for so many lifes.

I mean I am also aware that we atract what we have in our life but some stuff like... having a bad stepmother or this kind of things that you have no choice about, feels I carried it fron a past life.

But as I understood it was all for me to grow on forgiveness and love , then I feel I got liberated.
I have this feeling inside that I understood the lessons.

I feel probably you are free from your karma too because I feel sometimes when you get free from this is also when you realize you are just seeing and living thins you yourself did and things you had inside.
I feel if you realize about it means too that you are able to forgive and therefore you break free.

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