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Lei_Kuei
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posted September 08, 2017 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ulysses 31

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev1aBt-_Zs4 [02:00]mins

It is the 31st century, Ulysses killed the giant Cyclops when he rescued the children and his son Telemachus. But the ancient gods of Olympus are angry and threaten a terrible revenge:

Zeus: Mortals, you defy the Gods? I sentence you to travel among unknown stars. Until you find the Kingdom of Hades, your bodies will stay as lifeless as stone.

Sherka: Ulysses, the way back to earth has been wiped from my memory.

Telemachus: Father, oh, father!

Ulysses: You are alive my son.

Ulysses, Ulysses,
soaring through all the galaxies,
in search of Earth,
flying in to the night.

Ulysses, Ulysses,
fighting evil and tyranny,
with all his power,
and withall of his might.

Ulysses, no-one else can do the things you do.
Ulysses, like a bolt of thunder from the blue.
Ulysses, always fighting all the evil forces bringing peace and justice to all.

It's me Nono small robot you know, friend of Ulysses.
It's me Nono small robot you know, friend of Ulysses.

Ulysses, no-one else can do the things you do.
Ulysses, like a bolt of thunder from the blue.
Ulysses, always fighting all the evil forces bringing peace and justice to all.

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I used to love this show as a kid, really blew my mind... and I was especially fond of the Science Fiction mixed with aspects of Greek Mythology! Though for the most part I pretty much referred to the show as “Space Jesus”!

Part of my own childhood reasoning for this was based upon the picture of the Sacred Heart (which I actually really disliked, and still do)... yet the similarities of Ulysses's Character Design, and the Red Ruby like object joining his Cloak across his Chest is so visually close to the Sacred Heart pictures... that I'd be more amazed if the Artists were completely unaware of the Sacred Heart Design of the Standard Jesus Images... (Not to mention the Beards/Hairstyle), and the connections are so obvious its quite undeniably a copied over theme.

Anyways, just sharing something that I was thinking about recently, and while I care not for Catholicism... I am quite the fan of Space Jesus and his Enduring Quest for Justice (And his defying of the Gods... how could I not love that (Giggle))

I feel my general thoughts here, are in part an observation... of how a repackaged frame work via Art and Story telling can be bypass someone’s previous aversion to “whatever”, be that Religion or any Given Topic.

Was Jesus too, a repack I wonder... (Wink)


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posted September 09, 2017 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, as always.

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posted September 09, 2017 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heh, Space Jesus.

I see what you mean, but his having a child of his own (not to mention flying around with a sword) isn't exactly how most envision Jesus.

It's early and I haven't had breakfast yet, so sorry if this is so random (and my memory is so vague), but I recall a dream of being on the local beach with Spock. Some deity appeared briefly (I can't remember who or what) and Spock was shocked, "The gods are real!"

I asked Spock something like, "Why are you surprised given all your adventures, including when the giant hand of Adonis captured the Enterprise?" (The giant hand being from ST: Who Mourns for Adonis.)

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Interesting Dream, and I tried to find that Episode of ST on YouTube but I lucked out... though I did read the wiki-page you linked and it does give a very detailed account of what happened... and I thought such on par in theme and Symbology with even the Greek Tragedies the EP was based upon.

Ulysses 31 is also a retelling of the various Greek Epics from the Homer cycle, and whats interesting there... is that many Biblical Scholars when examining the format of the Bible itself, make similar claims in how such is no more than a Judaized version of those very same Greek Tales/Poems used as the Base Structure.

Again, that's similar to how I see almost Full Circle Ideas doing the rounds and borrowing concepts (and Visuals) from the other to relate the same Mythology to a new Generation/Culture, though the questions always remains... is such done purposely, or is it some underlying Cycle on a Jungian Level that causes these themes to constantly resurface, morph and borrow palatable ideas from the other to transfer some Universal Level truth?

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I see what you mean, but his having a child of his own (not to mention flying around with a sword) isn't exactly how most envision Jesus.

Well, there are definitely a few Alternate Theories out-there that question those very ideas... (especially about a Jesus lineage such as his son)... and while this I find only a Speculative Synchronicity at best... Ulysses 31 was co-developed created/by a French (French Creator) and Japanese company in 1981...

And around about that same time guess what Controversial Book made it's way into the spot light...? None other than The Holy Blood and The Holy Grail in 1982 (so both Space Jesus (Visually) with a Son, and a Theory on Jesus's Bloodlines (and a Son) were both being worked on and with French Connections... at the exact same time...)

...again, a Synchronistic connection at best and YET... I do find it intriguing how Art can sometimes pick up on Hidden Truths even unknown to itself...? So I have to wonder... just what the heck was brewing in the Collective Unconscious back then that elevated such concepts to the fore front... And If I dug deeper, might it turn out that the Creator of Ulysses 31 (Jean Chalopin) has some secret connection to the Priory of Sion? (Giggle)...

Hrmmm... The Ulysses Code 31 (Jesus the Extraterrestrial Space God)?

Is that perhaps the Character's True Origins... in that Ancient Aliens perspective that's so popular these days?

...and strangely enough, I reckon that about brings us right back around to your Dream/Conversation with Spock!

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posted September 11, 2017 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure if it's related at all, but...Marvel has retold the Scandinavian myths so that Asgard was more galactic.

Thor was reimagined as well. I used to tweak fans with things like, "Thor has red hair, not blond!" But I recognized him as a new version (and definitely better than the Lost In Space version that also had Thor, right hair color, but so ridiculous that even Dr. Smith played him for a fool), and wasn't really offended. Sometimes it's hilarious, like when Thor, God of Thunder, gets taken down by a taser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=185r5S9l1d8

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posted September 12, 2017 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
None of the "deities in Star Trek or any myths were actual gods.
If there were such beings as Adonis and so forth;
I would view them as being more advanced aliens but not gods.
Never gods.
As Arthur C Clarke;
who was a brilliant futurist and writer, said:
by way of one of his three laws; the most widely known of the third of his famous three laws,
quote:
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

THERE ARE NO GODS!

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posted September 12, 2017 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd80D347iSI

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posted September 15, 2017 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lei_Kuei! I need some 'time' to read and digest all this...
Want to say Hello, and that I'm soo glad to see you.

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posted September 17, 2017 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Technology = magic!

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posted September 17, 2017 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:

What is this in response to?

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posted September 17, 2017 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Technology = magic!
It can appear so!

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posted September 18, 2017 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In response to the Star Trek "gods."

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posted September 18, 2017 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More refs

- http://www.ulysses-31.com/characters.html

There was also a novel by James Joyce that was called Ulysses.
(Random shallow material mulling here.)

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulysses_(novel)
Style of writing used was - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_of_consciousness_(narrative_mode)

Lei_Kuei I love the material you presented, and your thoughts and comparisons..

In this series, Ulysses/Jesus was so kind... Not scary at all. Space Jesus! LOL

Sacred Heart of Jesus... The religious picture.
I understand the 'gooshy' (sorta surreal horror) part of looking at that, from a nonbeliever, even a young child's viewpoint?
When I was a little kid in catholic gradeschool, this didn't capture my imagination on how it was supposed to attract/inspire adoration. The heart organ seemed ... sooo organ~y and 'graphic'?? (I agree with what you said. LOL).
.. The story background has to be researched and understood. Several saints had a vision of it too, and whatever else went WITH that vision, made the Heart an emblem.

Of course, the Heart is 4th Chakra... The place inbetween Heaven and the Earth. The middle-place where BOTH touch and meet together IN the body. WE are the point where those meet... Meets inside our Heart.

Very very good material here, as usual, L_K.
Along with Pixie Jane's 'Marvel-ous' associations *ahem* LOL!!


Greetings Lexx ... Your vid! proper-god powers.
Her glue gun???

L-K's threads, interesting AS always, Randall.

We've got some Brilliant people here.
(sorry if this wasn't exactly any kind of depth-writing on my part...) Spent a lot of time with the material tonight.

Cheers to All!

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posted September 19, 2017 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, we do have many brilliant people here.

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posted September 20, 2017 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Myself excluded.

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posted September 20, 2017 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lex: OMG, that show looks like a really fun/interesting take on the Gods/Norse Mythology... gonna have to see if I can catch a few EP's online somewhere! Thanks for sharing

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Mirage: Thanks for the kind words, and for posting the Ulysses Character Bios / Joyce Links.

Sorry that I'm slow to respond here, I'm often distracted...(Eeeks)!

Interestingly, with the Novel (Ulysses) also being a Unique and Genius Repack of those same Ancient Themes that are Embedded in Humanities Collective Unconscious, it makes sense given it's Popularity (And I wonder constantly if people who create such works are even themselves Conscious of what they are doing, or are they ideas that are Always Attempting to flow into the Minds of Creative’s)? Maybe it's an Irish thing

(Heck... I have read of Ancient Theories that have connected Irish Druidism to Ancient Egypt (and further back), in that such Knowledge was taken from Ireland and Repacked in that part of the World....) Anything is possible I guess??

As an Artist/Designer myself... I feel because I know well the Strength of using those types of Creative Tactics, I always aim to hit certain keystones be that visual or written etc... but then I have had the luxury of reading Campbell and countless other Researchers who have pointed out the Guide Markers of the Hero's Journey... YET, looking back and even taking into account the Jesus Story... it follows many set patterns echoed in previous works (seems the Biblical writers knew what they were doing)... Divinely Inspired even...??

Though in regards the Cartoon Space Jesus iteration, I know for sure that a huge part of my own attraction to it was simply its Rock'n Theme Tune!

Also about the Sacred Heart pic, yep... I pretty much felt the same, much to Sensitive a Pisces kid to have that type of Gory Visual staring at me in my Grandmothers Living room, or every time I went into our family Kitchen... Though being Older I do appreciate the Artistry of the Design (and the Deeper Themes)... yet my Aversion to it will perhaps always linger.

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BTW Mirage – Also saw your reply on LLC (The Storm), & you are most Welcome! Every Little helps right? Even if from such Underworld Sources (Giggle)!

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And as for Technology vs Magic or them being one of the same... ohhh boy!

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No Excuse Randall... Admit it.
You're Brilliant. Period.
hash-tag-- One of ALL of Us!

L_K... YOU are such a Treat!

I grew up in a R.Catholic household.
My mother had a bloody-anguishing head of a frozen gory Jesus (decapitated), that was kept either on the kitchen table, or on the mantle in the TV room.
awwwwww.
To a kid???

I appreciate (and am impressed by) the amount of 'sensitivity' you display.

I participated in special Gaelic druid-like circle/ritual around a couple years ago... (I'm sorry, too distracted to go look it up.)
The leader (one of the few) was expert in that field, and working on doing original translations and investigating their belief system. Interesting talk.

I LOVE love love Irishness... I think I've had happy past lives there?
(At least, I choose to remember the good-times ones??? LOL).

Of COURSE your Prayers counted!!! LOL. You've got a Good Heart. Good Hearts, make Good Energy, and Protective Force-fields.
It's ultimately all about Love Energy.

Did you know Cthulhu has his own tarot set of cards now?

Yes, Bible being 'Divinely Inspired'? Love it.
There is actually incredibly supernatural material available in it, to those who know the depth-interpretations.

Jesus was Awesome... and he didn't mind having to torque-off the 'religious' folk, and religion-lawyers/debaters of the time.

In fact, THAT's what almost got him killed a few times (John chapter 9),
AND, what ultimately got him killed,
unlawful deliberate rush-job, bypass ---
(then again, that was written-IN to the Spooky overall Design?)

**e/

You do GREAT threads.
And you ARE a very BRILLIANT person!
Such a delight to have connected virtual paths with you.

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posted September 21, 2017 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
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I grew up in a R.Catholic household.
My mother had a bloody-anguishing head of a frozen gory Jesus (decapitated), that was kept either on the kitchen table, or on the mantle in the TV room.
awwwwww.
To a kid???


Reminds me of this guy:
http://youtu.be/jxo81Ok9Urk?t=30s

"...there was a fellow nailed to a cross...you're bloody right I'll be a good boy!"

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I LOVE love love Irishness... I think I've had happy past lives there?
(At least, I choose to remember the good-times ones??? LOL).

My cousin has past life memories when he plays his guitar, and he's been trying to get me to remember those past lives ever since he was a little boy, though he got to be sneaky about it (the real reason he gave me shroom tea was to help me remember), and said he talked about it openly when I was 4 ("remember when we were grownups in Ireland...") but I don't remember it.

He says a vivid recall was him as a musician (bard?) in Ireland centuries ago, his impression was that Christianity was at least present but many still followed the Old Faith (this could've been the time of Celtic Christianity which was a mix of Christianity and Celtic paganism and one of the better forms of Christianity while it was allowed to exist, though many of the pagan gods were transformed into saints, and was the time when it was far more artistic, I believe it was still in this time when The Book of Kells was made though maybe it was a bit after that, until the Church of Rome brought the Irish into line with the Vatican), and that he himself was in hiding because of foreign Christians, but many locals (Christian and otherwise) helped him out. But one day he poured the loneliness of his exile into his music playing by his fire (he says memories of himself playing a harp and a lute mix together, which he believes are two different lives in Ireland) and says he called me out of Faerie, an exile myself.

Now assuming glimpses of my own past life are true and that we reincarnate in a linear fashion then I've been born a human before this, though one such life was a gythia of Freya who is associated with the faerie folk in the north (Freya is of Vanaheim, or the home of the Vanir, which were essentially nature gods and spirits, and her twin brother Frey ruled Alfheim, or the Home of the Elves), so who knows, maybe there was some passage one or both ways before that. But he says it was no coincidence that our grandmother (an interesting tale herself) called me Pixie Jane when I was a child, though Granny herself isn't consciously aware of the reason why.

I don't know, but it was surreal when he first met my BFF (both of them with Pisces moon) and both instantly recalled each other from past lives, like their spirits recognizes each other. Sounds like all 3 of us have spent many lives out of step with society.

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Did you know Cthulhu has his own tarot set of cards now?

Makes sense, but I sometimes wonder what anyone who handles the "software of the Akashic records" thinks of it all.

Anyway, I'll try to make sure I get rid of any quoted parts you delete later.

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posted September 22, 2017 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Software?

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Yes Randall... Her 'software' line was clever and funny. LOL

Dave Allen!! What hilarious materials he has. Yes. I am familiar with a handful of his vids. Sooo real, sooo funny!
Thanks for posting it.

Yes, past life, confusions... Your brother was naughty... I'm glad he didn't make you too sick with what he gave you, and did, when you were only 4 years old???

So surreal.

When I was in my 20s, I got a chance to be part of a work-study group. Some of my friends and associates during that time, had had readings by EdgarCayce himself-- for some, it was through their parents when they were youngsters.

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Had a lucid-type of unusual Dream in the early 1970s, of an adolescent blue-skinned male, who was associated with a series of bright orbs seen in the sky.
.. He knew that I had 'recognized' him, and he slipped out of the restaurant (that seemed in Spain), before I could catch him. He got away. One of the depictions for Krishna was a blue-adolescent? Such a surreal dream.

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So Pixie.. I hope you are prepping? I hope you would be ready with a Plan if/when huge earthquake hit your area? OR Lil'Kim decides to go ballistic--
uh, literally?... Hope not!
Do you have a plan for who you can Text in order to communicate that you are Safe-- for your LL-friends?

Another thing too, Pixie--
I saw a convo in another forum where you had to 'explain' yourself so delicately and thoughtfully, with great gentle Respect, about quoting (or not-quoting) materials of other people.
... When I read that, you seemed to come across sooo sensitive. Maybe even a bit 'hurting' inside you?
... I hope your feelings are okay? *hug*

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It's gonna be Equinox ... at 4:01 p.m. EDT here.

Happy Autumn (Northern Hemisphere)

Happy Start of Spring for those south of The Equator.

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Interesting about Cayce. I've only heard of him.

Blue skin people being very mysterious and powerful show up a lot in fiction, two examples coming immediately to mind being Doctor Manhattan and Philidor. Perhaps a reflection from the collective unconscious?

As for myself...don't think I'm "hurting" exactly, but I am under stress and worried about a handful of people close to me...and I'm also reflecting on the path I took in life, which is, of course, normal as people get older.

And I do have a BOB (Bug Out Bag), though not a way to contact LL, though getting a phone with internet isn't hard, and the vast majority of libraries do allow for use of the internet so I don't see it as much of a problem, unless I were to return to my family in Texas. Should I return to my family in Texas then I won't be coming here as I can't risk them (or others in that town) finding out about things like LL.

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Yes, past life, confusions... Your brother was naughty... I'm glad he didn't make you too sick with what he gave you, and did, when you were only 4 years old???

To clarify, my cousin, at age 7, asked me at age 4 to remember when we were grownups and other people, which I don't recall. However, I do vividly recall the shroom tea he gave me at age 17 when I was 14.

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Btw, just remember something else about blue men (that Ulysses can come out of like a bolt) in the TZ episode A Matter of Minutes

Blue men (skin, clothes, vans, equipment, etc) create the settings for time. They're like knowbots in the Matrix. Here it is, for the moment, if you want to see it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKbylBQ0igk

There's a scene where a man who has slipped "backstage" has asked if the blank white spot in the alley hadn't been built yet, and the foreman (who is yellow instead of blue) says it's not being built because no one will be there. Which matches some of the stranger theories of quantum physics, AND also if you want to view reality as a Matrix in that video games work the same way...the areas not being used are vague at best, and often don't exist to be seen because they're not called up as there is no interaction with that software/scene.

The foreman also explains how mistakes get made, like when you remember so surely where you left something but it's not there, look everywhere, and then you find they were where you thought the whole time (that has happened to me, it's very frustrating!)...and that could easily fit into what some call the Mandela Effect

Ahahaha! I just saw one of the movie posters in the background was for Time Bandits!

Though that aside, there is the Ouroboros (serpent eating its own tail, a sign of Infinity), or what some call the Unity of Rings, which is to say time is an illusion, and may explain things like synchronicity and even quantum entanglement (btw, I saw a vid not too long ago about how quantum entanglement can be explained if the reality around us is virtual reality of a civilization far more advanced than our own).

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