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PhoenixRising
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posted June 01, 2020 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
King David's census:
The background: The Lord God asks King David to take a census of the people. He does and is guilty. Lord says chose from 3 option and I will take away the guilt, one - famine, two - plague, three - flee away:
http://www.enterthebible.org/Controls/feature/tool_etb _resource_display/resourcebox.aspx?selected_rid=640&original_id=30

Conclusion: What do you think? The lord God , has he changed today from those days.

Trump takes census of the people, abolishes Obama care. What follows ? Plague and houses burning. Hmmmm

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posted June 02, 2020 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obamacare is still around. Only the mandate was eliminated.

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posted June 03, 2020 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PhoenixRising! The coincidence of those things you bring up, had crossed my mind.

Notice that King David's "personal" decision saved his OWN skin, when he instead CHOSE the execution of 70,000 souls in his camp-- all as a result of HIS mistake..

He had made "poor choices" before, when he lusted and had sex with the wife of one of his high-placed military men. Got her pregnant, too! .. So what did he do? .. He had the man assigned to the FRONT LINES of battle, ensuring the man would be killed in the skirmish. He did that to COVER UP his "sin."

He was a soul, and in-charge of a nation of people.

Would be interesting to use a bible tool to research the ORIGINAL meaning/intentions behind the scripture you provided.

Some TOOLS for Researching Scriptures
are in this thread.
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000093-2.html


Looking those up in "The Interlinear Bible" (link) .. will give the literal meanings.

I have some of those books mentioned on the list.

Can't do it now...
Have an appointment to travel to.

If you want to try,
you can copy-paste things from those tools
into this thread?

I like some of the topics you bring up.


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Of course, the heart of that story is that of Repentance, and restoration/healing of his relationship with God.

So, David heavily repented from the MESS of mistakes he had made -- of himself, and of his nation.

He went to 'the threshing floor' .. and making ritual offerings, one-on-one with God, he expressing deep sorrow for his sins, and humbled himself. He spent time alone, renewing a Right relation between him and God.

(music) Create in Me (The Acappella Company)
[3:14] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noUeQQ64Q1I

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posted June 03, 2020 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall, The Obamacare is as good as dead. The essense of it, i.e to pay the mandatory minimum to have ACA coverage was abolished in 2019.

Mirage, Hi! Indeed !it is interesting. Busy too at the moment but took chance to review the wealth of information you posted there.

The plague sent by Gods then was for few months. I hope this Corona plague is over soon too.

Not a brick will be left in its own place. It happened few thousand years ago to temples. It is happening now to Rome. Lets see what God's says mankind should live as. Like Iron man or magically (Harry potter). I like magic.

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posted June 04, 2020 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Corona (crown) virus -- as in rings of Saturn....

This virus is from Saturnites who is taking over from Jupiterites.

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posted June 05, 2020 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iron man.. ! haha
Iron corresponds astrologically with planet Mars,
and sign of Scorpio..

There was a song called Iron Man, in the 1970s, when I was a teen. The words and story 'fits' that WE {as individuals, and as a group}-- we can act as our own worse-enemies, without realizing it.

Same applies to Society right now!
If we can't all work together for Good,
we will destroy ourselves, and the supportive environment for humans on the earth.

Too much greed! Too much selfishness!
.. kills people,
.. cripples our ability to survive.

quote yt comment
by Kedamono, 3 yrs ago

"This song is about a man who has the ability to time-travel.
He witnessed a 'robot apocalypse' in the near future.

So he went in[to] the past to warn everyone.

While teleporting there, his entire body turned into metal because of a strong magnetic field.
Which is why he's nicknamed Iron Man.

When Iron Man finally told them 'what would happen',
they didn't believe him.
So out of frustration and anger,
Iron Man slaughtered them all.

The robot {killing everyone in the future}
.. was Iron Man {himself!!}
this whole time.

Yet he never knew that---
until it was too late."

(music) Iron Man (Black Sabbath, 1970, lyrics)
[5:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uctu1e353os
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Corporations
Certainly, with ENVIRONMENTAL pollution issues -- if we don't LEARN the lessons taught us, from work-stop during pandemic, then {corporations} are DELIBERATELY killing us, all for making momentary-profits for themselves and stockholders.

Individuals
With the virus, there are folks that have spurned wearing masks and practicing safety protocols. THESE have endangered their fellow citizens.

Some Right-Wing political terrorist groups appeared with DEMANDS and behaviors against following safety protocols-- just before the George Floyd killing.

They demanded their "freedom" {from following public health safety protocols} whose consequences would be THE CAUSE of DEATHS of fellow American Citizens. Freedom... to KILL?

These political Right-Wing enthusiasts carry "weapons of war", Automatic-rifles-- display "Nazi"-Germany flags, Confederate flags {from days of freeing the slaves}, and held-up "hang-man nooses" used to terrorize and "lynch"/kill the black men and women before recent Civil Rights days (and they lynched whites who supported blacks too).

Their whole purpose brought an intention to 'kill' and terrorize other peaceful human beings, and inciting "terror" in order to FORCE-their-Will upon govt leadership to release "public-safety protocols".

'Saturn' limits, was for the SAFETY and protection of the LIVES of others.

We have "street lights"..
Red for stop, Green for go.

IF those people "decide" that RULES of the road don't apply to them, the smooth functioning in society diminishes, and we have chaos. These also can cause vehicular homicides (deaths).

There are TOO MANY of us living together in certain geographic areas.

Someone REFUSING to cooperate (wear a mask, and social distance) can INFECT innocent people. They are guilty of causing the DEATHS of many many others-- and, for others suffering grievous losses of family members, and finances.

We LIVE as a Cooperative Human Group.
The pandemic breakout DEMONSTRATES that we EACH 'do' affect others' lives, in a ripple effect.

Freedom {Jupiter} works when EACH respects the Other {Saturn, self-discipline}, .. following the rules of wise consideration. It's NOT all about your.own.self. We are part of one-another.

When some go rogue in malefic ways, it disturbs The Peace, and The Good that we have-- potentially making smooth-functioning of us 'as a body of people' to become "sick" and disturbed.

Jupiter expands, but needs Saturn to organize and contain it, set Limits, in order for things to 'work together' for the Benefit of All.

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- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_the_United_States

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism

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NOOSE ref
General Hate Symbols

The hangman's noose has come to be one of the most powerful visual symbols directed against African-Americans,
comparable in the emotions that it evokes to that of the swastika for Jews.

Its origins are connected to the history of lynching in America,
particularly in the South after the Civil War,
when violence or 'threat of violence' replaced slavery as one of the main forms of social control that whites used on African-Americans.
The noose quickly became associated with the Ku Klux Klan.

In the early twentieth century, when the rise of the 'Second Ku Klux Klan' coincided with the height of lynching incidents (most of the victims of which were African-American), the noose became cemented as a key hate symbol targeting African-Americans.

The noose may appear as a drawing or rendering, but also quite common is the use of actual nooses to intimidate or harass African-Americans (or sometimes other minorities) -
for example,
by leaving one at someone's home or at their workplace.
- http://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/noose
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It isn't "God"
it is The Human Group
who takes what they are given,
and through rebellious ignorance and Lack of Knowledge, or
who with deliberately use of freewill,
they go against Intelligence and Given Knowledge and lessons from History.
They disregard Natural Law on earth,
and run contrary to Civic Order --
which underlie the self-undoing, of the Human Race.

When contrary-folks in society go rogue and ignore civic Rules, and do whatever is right "in their OWN eyes", then they have turned against Knowledge, and destroy Future Good. Even Life-Itself.

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posted June 05, 2020 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about all these thousands of people protesting? Some are wearing masks and others not. There's not much social distancing going on there. Isn't that endangering people with the virus?

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posted June 05, 2020 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's part of what I was saying.
Maybe because the virus is 'invisible'.. no pimples, sores, marks, smells, etc.. no badge to wear that measures or indicates exposure.. the people have a hard time realizing that the danger is real.

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posted June 06, 2020 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We will see in a few weeks.

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posted June 06, 2020 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*deleteing it for copyright violation *
sorry

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posted June 07, 2020 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This came to me this morning.
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Why did moses say , stare at the snake on the pole? Because they worshipped the bull (Taurus) previous age not willing to let go of what they learnt in glorious egypt and its opposite is Scorpio, the serpent(the wise). Scorpio does have tremendous healing capabilities as well. Point is not that. So we that followed blindly the age of Pisces the religion shoved down our throat, and if the children of Pisces error in the new age of Aqua, where will the new Moses(leader )/bodhisatva tell us to look ? I bet it will be to look at Leo (opposite in the fixed cross of Aqua), and know how narcissist we were, and blind in our ego and narcissim. We will be asked to mend our ways. Love one another.

Postscript: Since aqua and capricorn are one, I was thinking of cancer opposite of cappy (the mirror people, their tears can destroy the world. Just an FYI.

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posted June 13, 2020 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I deleted some posts, as it is violating copyright . The author has no issues if I share, but I am not ok. More later.

Hehe age of aquarius/cappy. everyone knows if you steal what is theirs.

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posted June 13, 2020 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Wow!! ..
They ACTUALLY materially CONTACTED you???

Your posts are attracting attention?!!!

hehheh..
I always try to give credit to authors I borrow from, and/or leave the LINK to their work.

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posted June 13, 2020 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to try to share my thoughts and insights, to some of the things you've brought up.

As for their Egyptian experience?
They {as a nation of people} had been taken into captivity by Egypt to work in bondage as their slaves-- for 400 years!

They were treated brutally.
Moses was living as pharaohs {foster} son.
He was watching the way these slaves were treated, day after day.
He tried to intervene in the beating of slave, and accidently killed the slave-driver.
Had to run away, for 40 years, into the desert..
.. until the day a Voice communicated to him from a Burning Bush {that was not consumed by the fire}.
God introduced Himself. "I AM that I AM"
Commissioned Moses with the job of 'Setting the Captives of Israel Free' from the Egyptians.

Moses became their leader with a task to free these slaves. The pharaoh was stubborn, until finally persuaded after a series of plagues, the last of which was a Death wave, killing any first-born male child in the land. Pharoah's son died. He agreed to let the slaves go free.

To protect their own families, the Israelites were instructed to slay a lamb to eat. Take the blood of the lamb slain, and paint some of it on the lintels of their doors. That night after/during eating, the Death wave came through... Whenever it stopped at the door where blood had been applied to the door, it was a mark that 'death' had already been there, and death wave "passed-over" that house.
.. i.e. Jewish 'Passover'.

Egyptians were frightened by the demonstrated power of Israel's God, and surrendered hoards of treasures for them to take with them, starting a new life. New Chapter in their story.

The Israelites were a 'spiritually-consecrated' people, set apart. From its inception, God had made a covenant to receive them as His Own children, and to Grow them up Spiritually.

Chose Abram/Abraham, and cut a forever-covenant with him and all descendants.
They were to be a 'spiritual' nation, one of a kind relationship. After the spiritual fall of man, (resulting in spiritually dead), God wanted to restore capabilities that humans were Created to Have but lost.

Remember the story of Garden of Eden?
God said they had the entire run of the place, except!!, not to partake of the fruit/apple of one of the trees.

Well.... haha.
"A snake" decided to have a telepathic conversation with 'the feminine'. Then, the 'male' was deceived along with feminine. They downloaded 'special knowledge' that they had been spared from, under the Environment of God's Garden, which he had created FOR them.

Eve {femmine energy} was made, being taken-out of Adam {masculine energy}.

They didn't know what spiritual death and separation was. They had enjoyed a pure one-to-one communication and relationship with the CreatorGod.

When they 'believed' the snake, over trusting God, when God said stay away from that tree, with free-will they 'downloaded' knowledge {life with death} when biting into the twisted-lies told them.
They 'fell'.
They LOST their capability of having one-to-one natural communication/relationship with Creator, 'due' to the appledownload they received.

The knowledge they gained? .. was a raw self-awareness--- Lower-consciousness portals let-way to be infiltrated with an overwhelming form of 'death'. Their higher-consciousness portal connections were blocked, severed. The lower nature presided.

They had to leave God's lush garden he had prepared for them, and now 'learned' for themselves how to alone 'work' their way in the earth. Life was now integrated with death. They had to learn to manage the lowest densest materiality realms. Suffering and death came out of the apple-download material. It was a new DENSE sense-orientation they'd have to master. They had NO real connect to Spirit Realm anymore. It was 'broken'.

God chose Abram/Abraham, to start up and renew original plan, to be able to have total complete one-to-one with the freewill Soul of the humans he had created.

I say 'he'?.. God is actually masculine PLUS feminine. There was no 'division' of those two energies within God. .. At one point, neither did Adam. Adam had a perfect reciprocal relationship with the Creator who made him(her). .. Adam wanted flesh human companionship. So God 'split' the feminine from the masculine. Fashioned an outside-flesh Eve(f) from rib-bone of Adam(m).

God had been lonely too. God wanted relationship-- a friendship-companionship with a creation that was independent from his own self. Created Adam. Gave him free-will to do, think, be.

So. FAST Forward....

From Abraham, God developed him, slowly slowly slowly. Abram/Abraham multiplied his seed, had generations of kids.

Developed over several thousand years as a People belonging to CreatorGOD.

God was on the invisible plane of existence. God wanted his humans to re-develop its ability to purely have one-on-one constant joyful unity with Him.

Humans had to work their capacity to be spiritual, and to re-awaken to full knowledge and unimpeded constant unity in soul and spirit. Sickness and suffering would be completely mastered.

As we Grow, we come to see God alive and active IN each other. Such Celebration to recognize that True Self, indeed.

Following the rules of Creator .. is important to our inner-growth and development as an integrated Divine+Human.

Have Faith!

(music) He Lives In You
(Jesse L. Stevenson, song from Lion King)
[5:45] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUN4W59tTBY

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posted June 14, 2020 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure if you read my deleted posts. I kind of laid it all bare out there for few days. Anyway, in time, I will present such matters in a details so that people don't miss what I am saying. Our pineal gland has been calcified, and we don't perceive things clearly .

All I can say rightnow is that the god of Moses, the god who says he is "I am" is of the world age.,Aries, fire god. Quoting Exodus. Our consciousness is maturing with each age. One must not read anything literally. Use your inner eyes and ears.

quote:

You must not make for yourself an idol of any kind or an image of anything in the heavens or on the earth or in the sea


Do you see that the "I am" god is god of the fire age.

Sorry, not saying much on this matter after I discussed with the author.

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posted June 16, 2020 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Phoenix! No worries.
Your work did not go to waste.
Effort was not in vain.

I did manage to sweep the text quickly, before the materials were deleted.

I actually referred to some of it in my last post.

So, Thanks!

I've noticed that you limit God to ONLY one element-- i.e. god of Fire.

There's no borders or limits in God The I AM.
God existed through ALL Ages.
God created it.

limit God-specific to Abraham-age
limit God-specific to Moses
limit God-specific to time that Jesus walked the earth

God is Eternal. Always Existed.
There would have been no conscious awareness of planets, no universe, no you-and-me in ability to consciously recognize and relate/communicate, without GOD as the matrix that lets it Be.

God is the AUTHOR of ALL Time
Created Time so that consciousness could be able to know-it-is conscious. haha


But I like to do what you do.. when viewing the defined astrological ages in their chunks, it allows our mind to more-FULLY investigate what "This Experience" is all about.

Allows an ability anchor the soul's faculty called 'Understanding'-- feel its Worth.

Viewing things..
like a drop of pondwater placed between two pieces of glass--
a Slide on a microscope.

You can adjust the turn-knob with just the tiniest of movements, and find your eyes gazing into a Whole Other Galaxy of microbes to explore. Each turn, a New World to explore. Complete within itself.

Totally Mind-boggling.
Conscious!!

(music) Windmills of Your Mind (Peter Grant)
[3:01] http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&feature=related&v=dLx83xXKmPA&gl=IL

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posted June 17, 2020 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice song. Wheel/circle , symbol of casting a spell. You can break it by understanding. Standing under and watching the skies.

Also ,Right on Mirage! No , I didn't mean to say that, God is just one element. But do you not see how the bible is an astrological book and a transformation book aimed at transforming humanity. Pisces was the biggest lie told of any age . Like I said before-- such matters is discussed in a proper setting or perhaps in a book where users reads at his own pace. Writing book is a loss business these days. Perhaps pod casts . Let me think abt it.

But on the other hand I finally understand Jacobs ladder and why Buddha was silent after enlightenment , so silent that Gods came to him to inquire.

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posted June 17, 2020 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Watching the battle of fire and ice in the "Game of thrones". enjoying the past and seeing how the age of air/earth will transition -- resistance ? Still on season 2. not sure if the author will touch on that subject. Interestingly nevertheless. Loved the scene of the dragon women unharmed from fire.

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posted June 17, 2020 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Phoenix.
Yeah.. I've always loved that song.
Reminds me of Cycles with Cycles in astrology.

I've never watched 'Games of Thrones'.
There may have been discussions of that show in other forums. LLC2.0 had one a long time ago {if I remember correctly}. If not, maybe Randall will start one. He likes ideas for threads discussing popular shows.

Agree with you about the bible containing symbols of astrology (and astronomy) throughout the old and new testaments.

I'm an astro-nut. Can't help it!!

Like you, I've viewed the various ages, depicted in every book, with astrological thinking.

There are practicing believers with a background in Abrahamic-faiths here at LL, very much into astrology.

Aries Eagle once started a thread, inviting members to post verses from holy books that make reference to astrology and astronomy.
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/240884.html

There have been more than several long threads in the "Aquarius Rising" forum, which are VERY rich in information with discussions on the various 'Ages'. Don't know if you've seen those?

I'm curious about your understanding of Jacobs ladder (and the Buddha).

You've thought about writing books on this?

As far as podcasts go, why don't you find an established podcast producer, tell them what you want to discuss, and ask to be a 'guest' on their show..? Would be COOL if afterwards you left the URL here.

We'll Celebrate you!

"Our consciousness is maturing with each age. One must not read anything literally. Use your inner eyes and ears. "

Agree! yes yes yes.
One of the reasons for outside-religion is to teach the person who they are, and what they are capable of doing, on the inside.

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posted June 18, 2020 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never seen Game of Thrones.

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