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PhoenixRising
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posted May 31, 2022 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Every one has their preference for their favorite beverage (tea/coffee), favorite beer, favorite car, etc?


Are you in control of your choices or someone higher than you is responsible for it all? Nature or Nurture?

The amazing real life story of the Jim twins from Ohio follows. You decide and post your comments here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw3S35wGgT8

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posted May 31, 2022 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure. There's definitely an affect, but there's also other factors not clearly understood. Even conjoined twins can have different goals and personalities (though also keep in mind that most to all of us with one head have enough inner-conflict and incompatible goals and desires to choose from, so it shouldn't be too surprising). It's also possible for one twin to be straight and another gay despite being identical and raised together.

It does annoy me that TV and movies often encourage the fantasy to adopted kids that their parents are a lot better than they are, and can't truly know themselves until they know their parents. Those who do find their parents (especially as kids) are often disappointed, and sometimes horrified. One guy was even made to feel guilt for the actions of his biological father (he really should've been taken from his biological mother as she was toxic, and took her revenge out on the innocent boy that messed him up).

I know one guy who looks unmistakably like his biological father (but better health and less weight, no doubt because of different diet and lifestyle), and interesting enough, both have a phobia that manifested at puberty, but over different things (and without having been exposed to it before). And yet the father is staunchly atheist while he is deeply spiritual, among other radical differences despite a nearly identical appearance.

Lots of people are different from their natural parents, though I've noticed that my dark humor is more like my mom and dad than I realized. Not exact, but we can make each other laugh when others may be shocked and disgusted to hear us joke (even when it's not meant to be cruel, just cynical, "gallows humor"). Not sure if I absorbed that behavior from them or if it's genetic. At least I didn't inherit their alcoholism, and I find my mom's former modeling career disturbing (glad she failed to get me into that), though she feels the same way about me in her own way. (I got many relatives to laugh impersonating my mother, and a cousin said we were both "like cats," but I was the scrappy one while she was the spoiled cat eager to be placed in a cat show. I was given a nickname later that essentially meant she-cat.)

Interesting enough, my mother and hers (like me) have ice blue eyes that can see in the dark, but find it painful to drive at night because our eyes are sensitive to light. Fewer males inherit these eyes (at least the kind that can see in the dark, but not total darkness), but those who did could play in a pasture at night (as long as it wasn't cloudy then it's what I gather to be similar to what twilight, sun below the horizon, is for others) as if it was day, unlike others. I recall once being curious why a woman I walked with did so aimlessly to learn she couldn't see me as I could her--nor could she see the glowing algae in the ocean as I could which was beautiful and felt bad for her inability to see it--and had to lead her by the hand. That trait has made us all more inclined to be night owls (as long as we don't have to drive with headlights of vehicles and some city lights inflicting pain on our eyes.)

Dr. Cline created nearly (at least) a hundred half-siblings, and many (not all) look a lot alike and have the same health problems as their, er, donor. Even so, their personalities and lives are different (and many probably weren't found as they weren't on FB and/or didn't take the genetic tests).

Environment has its affect on many, including twins if raised in different environments, creating cultural traditions that vary. So can laws, peer pressure, and media.

That aside...I do think that most heavy smokers are also heavy drinkers. If they were split up then there's a good chance they were put under a lot of stress and around others with bad habits (especially back then), so I'm not particularly impressed with those findings. The names of the wives are an interesting synchronicity, but I don't see how genes (or even astrology) could be the result of that. I'd be interested in psychic experiments between them if they were game, as well as just having them flip a coin and roll dice in different rooms to see how often it matched up (though I wouldn't be able to identify the cause if say there was a 90%+ parallel, but definitely think something was up).

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posted May 31, 2022 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting!! I guess no one is a sinner and all will have grace because you can blame your DNA lol. That is an alternate way of defining Christianity.


We don't have all the answers but only our experiences to conclude . I like to trade financial stocks at times.. And still not disciplined. If I am to believe this , it is due to the same habits as my dad had and if need to beat all odds then I have to study astrology, kabbalah or other esoteric teachings out there i.e learn and observe my behaviour.

Perhaps I will do good, Or perhaps no point in trying at all. Every flower will bloom in its own time as creator intended


We are all here to learn our lessons , imagine being a superman and not able to control their powers. Those people are also here to learn and understand.

Like I said I spent nearly half my life and still attract quiet the opposite of what I want in life

DNA could be light codes and all those heavenly bodies wandering in the sky brings energies of those constellations to you . There is definitely a way to be master of a body and not continue to be a slave. But some times everyone does need help -- as you mentioned , your light colored eyes cannot be changed. I guess you have to be careful driving at night or avoid driving . How many of you practice that we preach. I don't. Thats what humanity is about and we need to overcome these tendencies and join higher beings in heaven.

In a hurry == so not sure what I typed above lol

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posted May 31, 2022 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are plenty of anecdotal accounts of those who reincarnate fast who show some sign of what killed them before (anything from a mole to birth defect). Their memories, at least in childhood, can be surprisingly clear, enough to name names and recognize people, even addresses. (They usually have emotional problems including PTSD related to it, so apparently it's not good, though the thought of being mind wiped and put back all too niave on this planet to figure it all out again does disturb me greatly).

I find that fascinating. The "soul energy" could be the x-factor that cannot be easily explained by nature, nurture, or astrology.

Not only that, but there was this guy I knew on the streets who I believed put a piece of his soul into me (intense story, don't know if I'm willing to share it) shortly before he died (though I eventually worked it out for him and gave him peace, at least so I think). It's possible (only a possibility) that this is why the first time I shot an AR-15, I scored a hawkeye (perfect score, once I adjusted the sights), much to my own surprise as well as that of others (the guy was a Vietnam Vet). I do know that I had weird dreams of being in Vietnam after I think he put a piece of his soul into me (but maybe I just thought too much on it), which almost completely stopped after I think I was able to release his soul to be at peace.


I did, I feel certain, meet someone close to me who had died in my dreams. She looked different from how she was alive. I'd say that the school lunches and what her father bought caused her to gain weight (whereas I stuck with PBJs for the most part and hated caf food, even the pizza you could buy tasted like cardboard to me). She also learned to hide whereas my being shunned by girls (so I played with boys until I was about 10, and then kept one foot in boy world and the other in girl world) and spending plenty of time on a farm kept me active and got me athletic which also made a difference.

Diabetes can lead to behavior changes, both directly and indirectly (through strokes, etc). Someone I'm close to has improved greatly, but we found out the med she was placed on to lower her cholesterol added a 50% chance of full diabetes! Talk about vicious circle (and profits for Wall Street pharma/hospital). She went off and she's just a few decimal points away from where she'd reach a healthy state. If she never took the med at all she probably would be cured (as long as she lived right), despite dogma that it can only get worse (yeah, if you take the meds they give you, it will!).

I mention that because if one twin didn't do it and the other did, then their thinking process and moods would change from each other. Just one way choices can affect your life.

Let alone chance (like if one got a burst of radiation).

And interesting observation is how when women are especially vulnerable in violent countries, many become more self-assertive and violent rather than meek (but as always, not everyone will react the same), so if the typical pattern is shown, someone raised in a good home while a twin was raised on a Brazilian slum could have a very different demeanor. Laws can have direct and indirect effects as well.

Pisces is (at least used to be) well known for this. They absorb much of the energy around them, and if placed among violent and predatory people that they can't swim away from, they're likely to transform into cunning sharks, reflecting the vibe around them (or perhaps "throwing up the poison they absorbed").

I see genetics (and life circumstances) as like a deck of cards. There are choices (though that doesn't mean everything is on them as if they alone shaped their own lives), and those with a bad hand can still come out a winner while those with a good hand can still lose badly.

But there is still much that I can't figure out, and don't think any of us can at this point (though some can make more educated guesses than me, but those are guesses, and true scientific thinking is ready to challenge and change rather than become "orthodox").

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posted May 31, 2022 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to add this! Under 3 minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpCIQKSqDd4

It would be interesting (though not an experiment I'd try to arrange) to see twins who were like this, one who is properly nurtured, and the other put on meds and told to calm down to see how they react. (Obviously this implies they were raised in different families.)

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posted June 04, 2022 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting! I heard that we must listen to the children when they are very young. They do remember their past lives. As they grow old, they forget every thing.


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posted June 04, 2022 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In his book, Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us, Dr. Robert Hare talks about a fascinating case of identical twins raised in the same household.

One clearly exhibited psychopathic behaviors and orientation, and the other had normal levels of affective empathy and conscience.

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posted June 04, 2022 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting GCE! Growing up with siblings does affect you -- whether twins or not. In the original post -- those twins never met each other because they were separated at birth. Was there a celestial story unfolding naturally and when left to nature -- that story won.

one in million odds to marry twice with wives having the same first name, and other interesting chances.

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posted June 05, 2022 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe the twins died the same day and of the same illness. Need a reference can't find it.

Need to brush up my knowledge of Ophiuchus . Is he Vishnu whose celestial story unfolds?

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posted June 05, 2022 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
Interesting GCE! Growing up with siblings does affect you -- whether twins or not. In the original post -- those twins never met each other because they were separated at birth. Was there a celestial story unfolding naturally and when left to nature -- that story won.

one in million odds to marry twice with wives having the same first name, and other interesting chances.

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posted June 06, 2022 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another interesting twin story:
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win brothers were born in an American family in 1978.

The brother, who was five minutes older, had a healthy heart, and the younger one also suffered from cardiomyopathy and cerebral palsy.

However, this tragic circumstance only brought the boys closer.

The "older" brother always took care of the "younger", helped him, motivated him.

And even when a sick boy at the age of 13 needed the heart of a voluntary donor, a healthier brother wanted to commit suicide so that his heart could be transplanted to his brother.

The vital organ was found on time, and the "older" boy went to the studies of a biochemical engineer after school to invent a cure for the disease for his brother and other people.

But fate determined otherwise. He became an actor and even a Hollywood star. And the younger brother became a lawyer who defends the rights of children with cerebral palsy.

Today, Ashton and Michael Kutcher are active in charity work together.



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