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roshanrai
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posted February 17, 2011 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roshanrai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My son was born on 13th MARCH 2008.As you all can see 13 adds to 4 and his full birth date adds to 8.I didn't knew what to do so I chose a name for him that adds to 19.As always this 4 and 8 nos seems to chase me like a shadow though I was born on 25th July,can anyone shade a light on it,PLEASE.I'll be more than GRATEFUL to you..

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posted March 04, 2011 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Halo Roshanrai

As you obviously know, 4&8 Numbers love to compound and attract each other; adding to the heavier sides of the Karma they represent, i.e. Saturnian and Uranian Energy, which are no lightweights in Astrology. Whenever possible, in our daily choices and lives, the Number of Venus, the harmonizer between the two 4&8 should be the optimal choice. Whether it is an address, a telephone number or a name, 6 works the best. Using the Chaldean Numerology Method, your son's name should be manipulated to equal 6 if possible, especially 15=6 if you can. Since he is already named, you can change the spelling to accommodate.

I attached a link here from William John Warner, or otherwise known as Cheiro, and a source for his information to help you get a better understanding. My son was born 3/8/2000 = 13/4 and I am 2/2/1966= 26/8! I know JUST what your talking about.


I hope this helps you and let me know if you need anything else.
http://free-numerology.org/index.php http://free-numerology.org/books/book_of_numbers.php

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Randall
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posted March 04, 2011 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chahldean, that was a great answer. Would you like to be a Mod in this Forum?

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roshanrai
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posted March 05, 2011 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roshanrai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank You CHAHLDEAN for your time and your wisdom but as far as I remember what Linda has to say is, we are to avoid the no 15 isn't it since it has it's own magical power but other compound no. adding to 6 would do just fine??

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posted March 05, 2011 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great sites, by the way.

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posted March 07, 2011 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Halo Roshanrai
Ah yes! You certainly are in tune here. You have noticed something most would overlook...the Power of Number 15! In his early texts, Cheiro , as well as Linda, have warned against the use of 15 in coordination with the Numbers 4 & 8 (especially 8) in the Birth Number for reasons as follows.....
According to Cheiro and Linda, "15 is the Number of "The Magician", and is steeped in alchemy powers and esoteric significance; where all "magic" is manifested. It's essence is enchantment, and is very fortunate in obtaining money, gifts and favors from others, appealing to their altruistic ways." It does become a concern when engaged with the numbers 4 & 8, as the individual "may become involved in the lower levels of occultism, using black magic to a means to their ends or be a victim of such fate." A delicate dance indeed. Leaving the choice, again, up to the Individual, in the case of the former. The latter is karmic and will require the use of "magic" defenses if such events occur.

In my opinion, this is where the parent with this knowledge comes in. As we live and learn and come into contact with these esoteric sciences and their power, the use of these powers become prevalent in our lives and those around us; especially those near and dear to us, our Children. With their birthday up to them and their name up to us, we choose carefully the best we can, that which will provide them with an optimal outcome, using such Arts.

In my case, having my son born as a Metal Dragon in the Month of Neptune with the powerful 8th day Birth Number, I decided to tempt such Fates with the Power of 15 name number; knowing his innate nature is Majestic, Benevolent and Altruistic, while fostering such qualities on a daily basis, as his Father and Mentor in Good Magic.
" Letting the cards fall" as it were and instilling the proper use of his numeric formula on his daily journey, I hope to excel his incarnation passed the Fates of 8. This, of course, is not for everybody. And, of course, he may change his name or use variations of it at any time during his Life, thus altering the new vibrations present. That will be up to him, once he knows what he's got.

IF, those who may encounter 4 & 8 as their Birth Number (day) find that this may be too much to think about or deal with, 6 certainly IS the answer, either by 6 alone or via 24. (Although, 24 has it's entrapments of gluttony and self-indulgence that may, in fact, effect future incarnations or the loss of Spirituality; as mostly all earthen things will come too easily for these people! Resulting in the absence of the gifts that were supposed to be bestowed, due to the effortlessness of their attainment of such things. Again, there are pitfalls to any Numerological calculations when dealing with Human Beings. "Know Thyself" is always the rule here.

Thanks you for clarifying this Roshanrai, as I would certainly not wish to cause any Karma to those who may be profane to the Powers these Numbers may represent and incline. I hope this explained my thought process in this instance. Again, GOOD LUCK in whatever you choose for your Child, and may all the Good Forces that Be fill their Lives with Peace and Fortitude.

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posted March 07, 2011 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Halo Randall
Thank you for noticing and the Kind Words. I find Cheiro a fascinating character in his knowledge and use of Numerology, as did Linda. Although, he did dabble in some darker mediums, I believe his knowledge was precise and his rules of thumb are uncanny. Linda's only prejudice to him was his fortune telling of sickness and death, which I agree with. "Harm no One" is the axiom all who practice such occultism should use. And predicting such fates certainly harms those profane seekers who ask such requests. It should never be done.

In regards to your request, I would certainly be available to help you hear, on Linda's Site in whatever way I can. I enjoy All that you have done here and wish only to make it better, although I am less inclined to "join a club that would have me as a member" (Marx) lol. With that being said, I am already joined hear! Listening and learning and would indeed like to help, if I can, in whatever way I can.

Not quite sure what Mods do per say, I certainly would be honored to be a part of LindaLand as you see fit. Thank you.


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posted March 07, 2011 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just do like you have been doing. You will just have the power to lock and move strings if necessary.

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posted March 07, 2011 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No sweat, I will do my best to do my Best.

Thank you.

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roshanrai
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posted March 08, 2011 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roshanrai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the Enlightening words CHAHLDEAN

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posted March 15, 2011 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Halo Roshanrai
You are most very Well Come. I am grateful to help.

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sesame
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posted March 16, 2011 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi roshanrai, I'm wondering how you came to determine the 8 from the date? In Chaldean Numerology, I think you would add 1+3+4+2+8 = (reduced) 9. In any case, if you do wish to rename your child, you could use this link to assist with names and their values.

All the best,
Dean.

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posted March 18, 2011 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roshanrai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sesame..Thank you for the link.How I deduced to no. 8 was 1+3+3+2+8=17=8

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posted March 26, 2011 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im an 8 and I have fully accepted my 8 path.. I even have an 8 tat I actually got it before I knew what it meant.. I also wear a necklace with an 8 and a bracelet with an 8.

Being an 8 means that you choose this life time to clear karma... If you dont I guess you will again clear it..

Have I sensed my life was karmic, YES from a very young age.
Has my life been hectic? YEAP! But I have lots of stories to share

I meet sooo many people, from different walks of live, and I have some very interesting conversations, and circumstances with them... Once I clear the karma (I'm guessing) the friendship dies, and I move on

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posted March 26, 2011 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roshanrai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The reason why I'm so concerned about this 4's & 8's is not because I posses this numbers even if I were to posses it I'm already into a philosophy that teaches us how to expiate all our negative karmas in this very existence.I'm worried just because it is possessed by my piece of heart that is my kid who is only 3 years old and at such age I believe he is too young to understand any philosophy or about karmas.Anyways, I know every external causes have an internal causes and whatever happens happens for the good

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posted March 26, 2011 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are doing a group reading of Star Signs in the OOber Galaxy Forum. We will be at that part of the book soon, and I will touch on the 4/8 mystery at length.

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posted March 26, 2011 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
We are doing a group reading of Star Signs in the OOber Galaxy Forum. We will be at that part of the book soon, and I will touch on the 4/8 mystery at length.


Has the discussion started yet on 4/8?
If so can you send the link.. I will join in

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posted March 26, 2011 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roshanrai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Has the discussion started yet on 4/8?
If so can you send the link.. I will join in

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No, we haven't reached that chapter yet, we have just finished chapter second "AN APPLE A DAY".However you can join us there in OOBER GALAXY FORUM,RANDALL will be there to guide us through

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posted March 26, 2011 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by roshanrai:
The reason why I'm so concerned about this 4's & 8's is not because I posses this numbers even if I were to posses it I'm already into a philosophy that teaches us how to expiate all our negative karmas in this very existence.I'm worried just because it is possessed by my piece of heart that is my kid who is only 3 years old and at such age I believe he is too young to understand any philosophy or about karmas.Anyways, I know every external causes have an internal causes and whatever happens happens for the good

I personally dont see being 8 as negative or a bad thing... ITs more about learning through experience.
For me, its more so making sure I "do" the right thing.. Did I have to learn that YES!
I also had to go through some things to get me to that "saturn" level...
For me Karma is not about going through bad things, but learning how to deal/cope with things.. Its a learning experience..
That was chosen for this life time..

I do believe everything happens for a reason, so I do believe there is a purpose.

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posted April 02, 2011 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will be writing up on it soon.

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"All deaths are suicides, do you realize that? Every single one. The only distinction is that, with some people, suicide is a subconscious choice, and with others it's a conscious choice. Otherwise, those who commit suicide and those who succumb to accident, illness or "old age," die for exactly the same reason: belief in the inevitability of death." Linda Goodman

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posted April 18, 2011 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know 4s, and they don't seem to think they have a difficult Life Path (even though clearly to me they do). It seems to be something they are used to and accept...and even look at positively.

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"All deaths are suicides, do you realize that? Every single one. The only distinction is that, with some people, suicide is a subconscious choice, and with others it's a conscious choice. Otherwise, those who commit suicide and those who succumb to accident, illness or "old age," die for exactly the same reason: belief in the inevitability of death." Linda Goodman

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posted May 03, 2011 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's cram time as Linda stated about 4's and to me it is also a protective number.I think 8's have it harder than the 4's and being a 4 there is truth that 4's and 8's are attracted to each other.

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posted May 22, 2011 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kanwalratan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i wanted to know if the husband has name number 8 and wife has the name number 15 or vice versa...then will it cause problems as Linda says from the association of 8 and 15.....please help...

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posted May 22, 2011 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Halo Kanwalratan

Well Come!

When we speak of ANY Numbers
other than the Birth Numbers
we are talking about Numbers
that can certainly be altered and manipulated.
Although it's True,
Number have certain "relationships"
with other Numbers
and are affected as such,
stated by Linda, Cheiro and many other Numerologists
I am more inclined to believe
that the Birth Numbers/Sun SIgns
are more involved in any challenging aspects or"problems"
as you say.

Names can be changed, used differently, spelt differently
to alter any vibration, One may wish to project to others;
but the "Core" of One's Blueprint
remains in the Birth Numbers and Natal Chart
and can only be made aware of, manipulated through
discernment and diligence with the knowledge of Astrology and Numerology.

"Problems" in relationships manifest from many sources...
Some created by the schematics of Universal Vibrations,
and most others by the Humans possessing them, based on a multitude of varying demographics and belief systems, situations and interpersonal relationships.

If you can be more specific, I am confident many here
can help you resolve your "issue" at hand.
There are many insightful, helping, healing Minds
hear at LindaLand that are eager to both learn and help!

Namaste~


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posted May 22, 2011 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

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