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Esquatcho
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posted December 28, 2013 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Esquatcho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Im new here, but was hoping for some help. Ive only ever delved into numerology very lightly, so could use some help if possible please!

We've just had our second son, on the 18 December and are looking at names(Yes I know, we are really being very indecisive this time around!).

We have already chosen the middle name, so just need a first. The second and last names are 23 & 26.

First names we are thinking of include:

Julian
Max (or Maxwell)
Archie (or Archibald)
Hugo
Xavier

Hugo was also right up there, but it looks like it isnt a very ideal name from a numerology perspective? Same with Maxwell & Archibald?

It seems the others are pretty good?

Where Id love some help, is, are there any of these that are better than the thers?

Also, would the 21/3 combo actually be the best for that birthdate? Or something might work better?

If you need any more info, just let me know!

Thanks!

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Randall
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posted December 28, 2013 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Esquatcho
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posted December 29, 2013 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Esquatcho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! Hopefully someone is able to help

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sesame
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posted December 29, 2013 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there Esquatcho! That's a cool name in itself! This link has a link in the lower left side for a free names list with chaoldean calculations. There's also a program her ether will explain the numbers. Otherwise I recommend reading star signs for more explanations.
http://users4.jabry.com/chaldeannumerology/

Let us know how you go! And congrats too in bringing in a new soul to this world - isn't it thrilling?!

Heaps of love,
Dean.

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how it hides behind the fabric of our poor,
browbeat days, shining brightly, and we don't even know it.

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Logically Magical Logic is Magically Logical Magic! (and vice versa!)
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Esquatcho
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posted December 29, 2013 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Esquatcho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Dean,

Ive actually been using your website and spreadsheet already to get the list of names!

At least together with some other reading I have done.

I guess where I was hoping for more guidance, is the deeper side of things: if anyone sees any issues with these names, have I interpreted something wrong, or if ayone has any ideas for a better number for the first name?

For example, Ive heard 3 is considered quite lucky for a birth date, but not so for a name. Is this really the case? If it isnt so useful in a name, then which one might be better?

I am also a bit concerned about the birth date combination of the 18/9 (18th) and the 16/7 (full). Need I be? If I do, then what would be the best counter? I think I read that a 6 number in the name would be best? Would the 21/3 name still be as good?

Also probably also after some thoughts from experienced people just to help with our Libran undecidedness! lol

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And congrats too in bringing in a new soul to this world - isn't it thrilling?!

Yes it most certainly is.. Getting some sleep 2nd time around too!

Thanks

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Esquatcho
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posted December 29, 2013 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Esquatcho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, so I think we've narrowed it down to:

Julian
Xavier

Xavier gives a 15/6, which I believe is great for countering the 18 in the birthdate?

Julian gives a 21/3, which intinsifies the Saggitarius star sign (lots of physical energy to be released!) & it seems the 21 is a good number to have.

We do love both names...

Any thoughts on these would be welcome!

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Randall
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posted December 29, 2013 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you calculating the middle names? Chaldean only uses first and last names.

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Esquatcho
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posted December 29, 2013 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Esquatcho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Are you calculating the middle names? Chaldean only uses first and last names.

Really? Oh wow! I have been seeing the middle name included in other places. But do remember you mentioning that I think elsewhere on this forum....

OK, so that means back to the drawingboard... perhaps!

So talking just numbers, with the birthdate numbers:
18/9
16/7

What would be a good combo to go with them for a name?

Am I going the right path aiming for 21/3 or 15/6? Any that might be better?

Thanks!

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posted December 29, 2013 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any of the fortunate numbers would be good, so you can't go wrong. The middle name only comes into play if it's commonly linked to mthe first, as in Sally Ann.

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Esquatcho
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posted December 30, 2013 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Esquatcho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks again Randall!

How much influence does just the first name have? Just wondering as usually it is the most used form of a name.

And what about nicknames? For example, if you were called Maxwell, but were called Max mostly, would the nickname have more influence?

Next, what is the correct way of adding up a name? For example, Deans program adds up the names to their single numbers, then totalises. Whereas I have seen some that say to simply add up all the numbers together. So for example:

Xavier Payton is it

Xavier (20) Payton (26) = 2+0+2+6 = 10

Or 20 + 26 = 46?

Both would reduce down, but which one should be more prominent?

Finally, would you say 11 is a 'fortunate' number?

Thanks!

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sesame
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posted January 01, 2014 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Randall, could you please advise where Linda says to not use the middle name? In all of my calculations, I've found that this middle should always be included - people don't know it, but it doesn't mean that it doesn't have an influence. In fact, I believe it's who you are - the name cast out in to the ethers as the person you were named officially. The only time first and last names should only be considered is if you're famous with those names as pseudonyms - like Mark Twain. Or J R R Tolkein would probably have more influence than his full name, but I would still argue that this full name would have more influence than his first and last names. I think Linda said similar things to this effect in Star Signs.

Linda also said that you can obtain a compound number by adding all compounds from each name IF the combined reduced totals do not yield a collective compound - the program takes care of this, which might be what you're asking Esquatcho? My favourite numbers are 14, 15, 21, 23, 24, and 27 for names - especially 23, 24, and 27. In the end, you have to listen to the Tutor Within (InTuition). There are many factors to consider!

Cheers,
Dean.

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I realized it for the first time in my life:
there is nothing but mystery in the world,
how it hides behind the fabric of our poor,
browbeat days, shining brightly, and we don't even know it.

Sue Monk Kidd, "The Secret Life of Bees", p79

Logically Magical Logic is Magically Logical Magic! (and vice versa!)
Check out my free Chaldean Numerology Program based on Star Signs by Linda Goodman .

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posted January 01, 2014 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agree to disagree?

IMHO, the full name would have no influence in and of itself (unless people know of it).

Linda implies it throughout the whole chapter. I cannot find a single example of Linda using the middle name in Star Signs. I see one example of her using a surname that is two words (Philip Di Franco). Even when referencing Mark Twain, she refers to his prior name before he became famous as Samuel Clemens (no middle name reference). She indicates using the middle name when they go together and suggests inserting a hyphen (the examples she uses is Mary Ellen and Mary Kathleen).

The name's power is based upon vibratory influence, and seldom will people introduce themselves and include it. She talks about people changing that vibration by insisting that others call them by the two first names (she doesn't use the term middle name) or by inserting a middle initial, but she states that they seldom will think of them that way. The example she uses is John L. Mendenhall, but she says that people will likely just call you John Mendenhall anyway.

I think the distinction between Pythagorean and Chaldean is that with Chaldean the name gains power as it is sent out in the Universe, moreso than being granted a fated imprint upon birth. Speaking personally, my life didn't soar till I insisted people call me by Randall instead of Randy. But I can see a benefit of including the middle name for self-reflection, perhaps. I ultimately view names as being not so much telling as they are changeable and mercurial...and birth dates, of course, as fixed.

Of course, I can't complain, because my first and last name equals a 23. If I add my middle name (which I have never even attempted to do before tonight), it's a 24. That's pretty much the same vibration as a 23 but better. Interestingly enough, my birth is a 19, but my secondary birth number is also a 24. I like the 23 vibration very much, but I love the 24! So, I secretly long for you to be right, but, alas, I personally feel that you are not. But thanks to you, I calculated my middle name for the first time ever today, so thank you for that.

Sesame, I'm curious as to why you didn't include 19 in your list of faves for names? It is arguably the most fortunate of them all. I second your list, but I would add both 17 and 19. I also like 32 which is the same as 14 and 23...and 33 which is the same as 24 but magnified.

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posted January 02, 2014 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Esquatcho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, thats some great discussion thank you both!

We ended up going with 'Julian' & it was a close call with 'Hugo'.

By itself, its a 17, which Im glad you like Randall. Hugo arguably was a bit better as a 21, but I did like the 17 love & peace side of things.

As we are dealing with a very strong 18/9 birthdate (Both the day & the sum of the full date adds up to 18!), I really wanted to emphasis spirituality & love. Shame I couldnt work out a 6 that my wife would agree to!

Julian was a bit more versatile too with the full name. With the last name, it comes down to a 16/7 which isnt great. But I am hopeful the 16 can be dealt with (Ill be making sure to push him to remember to save for a rainy day & trust his intuition!) and the spirituality of the 7 will hopefully again work well with the 18 of his birth data.

Then if you are right Dean, with the middle name too, it becomes a 21/3, which is great!

So basically we picked the name that best covered all the bases! lol

Plus its a name we have both liked for a long, long time.

Thanks for you help!

The only thing Im not sure about is a comment Ive found with a 7 (Using his first and last names is a 16/7):

"Unsuitable for prominent 9s, brings about uncertainties in personal life."

Being that his birthdate is an 18/9, any idea how you would interpret this?

Otherwise, reckon these numbers work OK? Think I have dealt with the 18 well enough? Is the 16 going to be an issue?

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posted January 03, 2014 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
:rainbow2:

You've done a great job Esquatcho, definitely seen to have all bases covered. Cool names too.

Thanks for your detailed and thoughtful response Randall. I always wondered where your take on that came from so thanks for explaining. I don't mind aggreeing to disagree. My path took an alternate direction where I found all full names to be completely accurate and therefore never recommended or checked without the middles. I think this started with my own name - first and last equal 35 or 30 when middle is included. I've never never seen truth in 35 but definitely relate to 30, so perhaps I'm biased - not exactly scientific!

As for the 19, my mum is one and suffered a lot as a child and into adulthood. I don't believe she's ever really risen above this but perhaps it's starting to now. She's mid sixties so I don't think the 19 is as fortunate as it sounds. She is also a cappie (born same day as you). Interestingly, she has no middle name and is a 50 name but was an 11 before getting married. As for reducing 19 to 1, I'm not a big fan of that either - my dad, mum and sister are all 1s! Being lectured doesn't gell with my 3s and 2s.

As for 18 - on my seven year old son is one - I think the balance between spiritual and material will always be apparent. As for the 16 - everyone I meet, I ask about their dreams which are always interesting.

All the best,
Dean.

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posted January 03, 2014 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It might be astrology more than numerology for her struggles. Cappies have to pay their dues before success is achieved. But the 19 does promise eventual success over all obstacles, and the success would not be nearly as sweet without first tasting the bitter failures.

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posted January 04, 2014 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Esquatcho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great, thanks again!

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posted January 05, 2014 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome.

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posted January 06, 2014 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great info, Dean!

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posted March 02, 2014 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zoldrex     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i would like to emphasize an important point.

the numbers 8,4,9 should never be intermingled, they will spell doom.

i would not suggest putting a name of number 17 with birthdate of 18.
mars and saturn together can cause a lot of suffering.

with 18, it is best to put a name of 33 which will allow appreciation/gratitute to almighty in general, or 23 which makes sure that character is not dented from blows of fate.

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posted March 02, 2014 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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