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Cappadora
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posted December 22, 2008 10:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Since the old thread is lost, I'm starting a new one that continues on from where the old one left off.

A bunch of us were tring to speculate as to what kind of natal chart the character House would have if you were to guess...and there was some discussion of what his Asc would be...the post below was created before the collapse of the last forum and saved on my PC...so for all those interested lets continue the disscussion on his potenial fictional natal chart...

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Cappadora
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posted December 22, 2008 11:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message
So is House’s Asc Gemini or Sag…

I definitely see some Gemini energy in House, more so then Sag. I have a stellium in Sagittarius and I tend to be idealistic in an enthusiastic romantic type of way, not cynical and matter-of-fact like House. Sags are also very trusting, straightforward and positive…and sometimes clumsy and naive. Even when they are outrageously blunt (which they can be) it is usually done in a thoughtless oblivious sort of way, and when they realize they’ve offended someone they’re sorry. Not that Sag’s are stupid, they are some of the smartest people out there when it comes to understanding concepts and technical things, however they are usually guileless and good natured (a lot of Scorp or Gemini in the chart may alter this somewhat). House is a sharp thinker and blunt on purpose. He does it to dig at people or manipulate a situation to get his point across. He plays games and winds people up. He even ignores morality defiantly at times in order to get the job done or solve the puzzle (Sag types are usually obsessed with right and wrong, but Gemini is capable of disregarding that for the sake of solving a riddle). This is very Gemini like to me, with a bit of Scorp thrown in. That’s way I was thinking of a Gemini Asc and a Scorpio mars for the character.

The signs Gemini and Sag are both associated with humor. Gemini’s humor is dry and glib, and involves lots of play on words and witty remarks etc. Sag is more slap-stick and ridiculous, often involving wild gestures and silly faces, as well as statements and remarks that are funny, not because they are so clever, but because they are just absurd and unexpected. I’ll admit, House has tinges of both in his humor, but the dry Gemini type is the one that dominates for sure. So I say Gemini Asc with some Jupiter aspect in his chart. Perhaps Jupiter opposite Mercury…he can ‘see’ how others are caught up in their pre-programmed morality and has the ability to separate himself from this in an objective sort of way. He also finds humor in the ‘obviousness’ of others, and when something unexpected happens he just has to figure out why. So I say Aqua Mercury opposite Leo Jupiter. If House were in his forties or early fifties (the age he seems) Uranus would also be in Leo, so then we could also have a Jup-Uranus conjunction in Leo opposite Aqua Mercury which does fit the ‘puzzle solver with a brilliant intellect’ pattern very well. The Leo Jupiter/Uranus would also give him a sort of pride in his expertise, a ‘yeah, I’m the best and I know it’ type of vibe, and a certain teasing playfulness and quirky outlook . The opposition occurring in fixed signs explains his element contrary stubbornness too. And with Gemini rising the Leo Jup/Uranus conjunction would fall into the 3rd house of intellect… He’s also good at seeing patterns which is a Sag/9th characteristic… so I say Mercury and/or sun in Aqua in the 9th for broad understanding…


So far for MY fictional portrait of House I have…

Asc Gemini (trine sun for compelling ‘presence’)

Sun Aqua 8th or 9th house (square Neptune for addiction)

Moon Aries 10th or 11th house (tightly square Saturn for emotional inhibition and some denial, and quincunx Pluto for awkward intensity. But widely sextile sun...like with a 7 degree orb for self-assurance)

Mer Aqua 9th house (opposite Jupiter/ Uranus for intellectual brilliance and sense of humor)

Ven Cap 8th house (8th house Venus suites him better then a 7th house one, I've decided)

Mars Scorp 6th house (sextile Venus...even though he's not conventionally attractive he has... charisma..., Mars square Uranus/Jupiter opposition Mercury for being confrontational and difficult)

Jup Leo 3rd house (conjunct Uranus for skewed morality, throws spanner in works at times)

Sat Cap 7th house (in 7th for being lonely at heart... has lots of barriers to get through before he can open up in relationships)

Uran Leo 3rd house (in 3rd for hightened intellect)

Nep Scorp (Neptune in the 6th house makes him a healer at work)

Pluto Virgo (I decided Pluto Leo might be too old for him, so Pluto can quincunx the moon making him awkward about emotional intensity, also Pluto in Virgo in the 4th house for a difficult childhood, with some abuse)

Pisces MC (ruled by Neptune in the 6th for healer in the medical field)

Chiron in Gemini (conjunct Asc) or Sag (conjunct the Dsc) or in Aqua (conjunct the Sun)

Here's the simplified version...Asc Gemini, Sun Aqua, moon Aries, Mer Aqua, Ven Cap, Mars Scorp, Jup Leo, Sat Cap, Uran Leo, Nep Scorp, Plu Virgo.

Hmmm…what do you guys think?

Of course it’s entirely possible that I’m picking up on Hugh Laurie’s own Sun and Mercury in Gemini, and moon in Leo, and that this is the reason why I’m so convinced that the character has a Gemini Asc with some Leo elsewhere in the natal, along with the other placements I speculated on….

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buena36
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posted December 23, 2008 05:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Hi,

I don't know what are you talking about. If there is Dr.House: he is Gemini Sun with Leo Ascendant.

Maybe I am wrong about Topic?

Doesn't matter. It is no more interesting here.

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Green Fairy
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posted December 23, 2008 06:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message
^What are YOU talking about?


Anyway, in the series, House has the same birthdate as Laurie. So, he's a Gem Sun/Leo Moon-Venus-Mars/Cancer Merc.

I'm convinced Laurie is a Sag rising.

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Aste*risk
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posted December 23, 2008 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aste*risk     Edit/Delete Message
I doubt the creator arranged to have House and Laurie have the same birthdate for astrological purposes. He most likely did this because he thought the majority of the fans wouldn't really care what the character's birthday was (except to celebrate it).

Sure, of course the character's personality is affected by the actor (and whatever aspects he personally feels fits the characters best) but I think what Cappadora means is what kind of astrological chart does the purely fictional Gregory House have.

I think she's very accurate with what she has so far, too.

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Green Fairy
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posted December 23, 2008 02:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I say Sag Sun/Aries moon/Cap venus/Sco Mars.

I know 2 people with these placements and they're very in-your-face, sharp, intelligent yet demanding and childish.

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Cappadora
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posted December 24, 2008 01:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Aste*risk,

Your exactly right, I was refering to the fictional character and not the actor himself. You can't make up a chart for someone who already exists...unless your God. And I certainly am not. I was just having fun trying to guess what the character's chart would be like based on how he's depicted on the show.

House feels very 'Airy' to me...abstract and intellectual. So I guessed that element as being very strong in the natal..

But I guess a topic like this can never be 'won' because it's a matter of opinion...

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Green Fairy
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posted December 24, 2008 08:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message
House.. "airy"? No way. He's sarcastic and can be bitchy about things. He's not as "civilized" and diplomatic as air signs are [imo]. He doesn't care about the greater good and he's not that friendly either.
He can also be quite childish and "ME ME ME!".

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posted December 24, 2008 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I love watching that show. He cracks me up because of his lack of bedside manner,sarcasm,rudeness,and crudeness which comes off funny to me.

I remember the one show that involve AIS(Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome), I ended up looking up stuff on that and hermaphrodites shortly after.


The girl,a supermodel, who actually really had hidden male genitalia had cancer, but they couldn't find it any where.....but they finally found it on her balls...so she was really a man with AIS.

House told her about that.

He cried and claiming that she's a girl.

House says "You will be alright when we cut out your balls"

hahahahaha


then he turns to the father of the girl,who was banging her

and he says

"this technically means that you're a homo"

hahahhaha


It was the first episode of House that I ever saw.

Androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS), also referred to as androgen resistance syndrome, is a set of disorders of sex development caused by mutations of the gene encoding the androgen receptor.[1] The nature of the resulting problem varies according to the structure and sensitivity of the abnormal receptor. Most forms of AIS involve variable degrees of undervirilization and/or infertility in XY persons of either gender. A person with complete androgen insensitivity syndrome (CAIS) has a female external appearance despite a 46XY karyotype and undescended testes, a condition termed "testicular feminization" in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_insensitivity_syndrome


Watching that episode made me realize that you can't take female appearances for granted because you never know....that female could actually be a genetic male. I believe males should know what they are getting into. Therefore, it's logical to ask a female if she's really a female. Some AIS people live lives as females and keep their AIS a secret from men they are with.

here is a good site on AIS, and it shows pictures of people with AIS. You can see that they do look like females that you can't tell that they are genetically males. The 1991 Teen USA has AIS. http://transwoman.tripod.com/ais.htm


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Aste*risk
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posted December 24, 2008 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aste*risk     Edit/Delete Message
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Watching that episode made me realize that you can't take female appearances for granted because you never know....that female could actually be a genetic male.

Darn. And I thought I could fool everybody.


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Cappadora
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posted December 25, 2008 02:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message
A fire moon, along with a couple of other planets in that element can add a 'big Baby' type cast to the personality. Air adds intellect and a tendency to see people as specimens, as well a discomfort with emotional intensity. Gemini and Aqua are not always diplomatic (Libra usually is), and Air's signs are not always concerned with the greater good. Aqua can be very charitable, but it can also be anti-social in a 'I don't give a s$%t what people think' kind of way...that's how I see House. Part of him is emotionally a big baby, the other part is this objectified, contrary, speculative, mind-game playing intellectual type. Each to their own, though, I suppose...

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Cappadora
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posted December 25, 2008 02:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message
And Glaucus,

your post totally cracked me up! Must have missed that episode, but I wish I hadn't.

HaHaHa.

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evander
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posted December 31, 2008 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message
I was browsing around and I read this

:Pallas in Aquarius: This placement can solve the most difficult problems in ways that are startling and unusual. The patterns that it makes are either insane or touched by genius. If everyone agrees that a particular arrangement is the "right one" or that a certain problem has a well-accepted solution, you can count on the Pallas in Aquarius person to come up with something completely different.

I'm betting on House having something like this. I instantly thought of it and seaked out this thread

MAybe Pallas intense aspect Pluto, those can be a cause of concentration on problems to the point of obsession.

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