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posted December 23, 2008 01:08 PM            

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I have both conjunct 0°29' in Virgo in the 12th and they both make the same exact aspects to the following:

Uranus Aspects

Mars square Uranus orb +1°17'
Uranus sextile Neptune orb +1°00'
Saturn opposite Uranus orb -7°37'
Venus square Uranus orb +5°51'
Uranus quintile Midheaven orb +1°02'

Pluto Aspects

Mars square Pluto orb +1°47'
Neptune sextile Pluto orb +1°29'
Saturn opposite Pluto orb -7°08'
Venus square Pluto orb +6°21'
Pluto quintile Midheaven orb +0°32'

Is there any significance to these aspects?

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Moon: Capricorn
Ascendant: Libra

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Mars in Sagittarius

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posted December 23, 2008 03:43 PM            

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The Mars squares are a definitely important aspects since Mars is Scorpio's co-ruler.

The following is from Alan Oken:

Mars square Uranus: "If other configurations concur, this aspect is indicative of someone who is accident-prone or who has been involved in some form of violence. At the very least, the square indicates nervousness and irritability. It is extremely difficult for a person with the square...to finish his projects; the square gives an attraction for the bizarre and unusual methods of self-expression. 'A Lightning Bolt' "

I have Mars squared Uranus in my chart and this description is dead-on: accident prone, especially with cutlery; and bizarre self-expression.

Mars square Pluto: "People with the square are known to have extremely violent tempers. They let nothing stand in their way and can be devestating enemies. In a sense, this aspect acts like a bomb, constantly clearing the way by wiping out what has already been established. It therefore becomes rather difficult for a continuum of growth to take place, as projects, ideas, and energies, are usually aborted before reaching fulfillment. On the positive side, this aspect can be used as a clearing house for personality traits and life circumstances which are no longer desirable, providing the individual can modify the intensity with which he releases himself. 'The Annihilator'"

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posted December 23, 2008 03:53 PM            

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The Venus squares are also very important, since Venus is your Ascendant's ruler.

Again, from Mr. Alan Oken:

Venus square Uranus: "These are the most rebellious of the Venus-Uranus type...this aspect is prominent in the horoscopes of divorced people and of individuals who tend to break off their relationships easily. She has found that such people seek conventional relationships to suppress their true desire for unconventional ones...Venus-Uranus (as well as Mars-Uranus squares give rise to 'unusual' sexual behavior."

Venus square Pluto: "The desire for total dominance in one's relationships is pronounced in the square. The individual in whose chart such an aspect is found may consistently work (consciously or unconsciously) to undermine his or her partners or associates. Another facet of this aspect is the tendency to be very destructive and wasteful in handling material possessions There is often great difficulty in coordinating creative efforts. Sexuality is also intensified by such a configuration."

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posted December 23, 2008 03:59 PM            

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I personally feel that such squares are not necessarily negative because they give one the power to exercise the planetary energies in question. Furthermore, because these are mutable squares, they are a tad easier to deal with. I have the above mentioned Mars-Uranus as fixed square and my dad had a Venus-Pluto fixed opposition. I'm dealing with mine in a very conscious way most of the time, while my dad never did; he was an extremely violent person and never mended his ways.

Also, you have a great deal of Uranian and Plutonian "electricity" flowing through your chart and these energies can be very difficult to deal with on a personal level; so again a conscious effort is needed at integration.

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posted December 23, 2008 04:02 PM            

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Plutonian Persona

Well I'm certainly not accident prone... but I am prone sometimes to weird forms of expression

I certainly relate to the Mars Square Pluto aspect I can certainly bust a gasket and have a conniption fit went someone really irritates me, which feeds right into “I’m going to get my revenge”

I was wondering if it is unusual for two planets in a conjunction in the same house to make the same aspects to the same planets?

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posted December 23, 2008 04:09 PM            

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Nope, it's not unusual at all for conjunct planets to have the same aspects, in fact it's par for the course. Look at it this way, if the planets are in the same degree, like your Uranus and Pluto are, they are acting as a unit and therefore will make the same aspects to all other planets.

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posted December 23, 2008 04:22 PM            

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Plutonian Persona

I certainly agree there is plenty of Urainian and Plutonian energy in my chart. I am not sure how easy it will be to try and integrate the two,

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posted December 23, 2008 06:36 PM            

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One suggestion that I would give is that since your Uranus/Pluto conjunction is in Virgo and resides in the 12th house, try doing something regarding hospitals, prisons, hospices, etc. You could have revolutionary ideas (Uranus) regarding these places, plus you'd be a powerful advocate (Pluto) for the downtrodden.

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I have pluto in the 12th......is squares my nodes and loosely my moon.........I think of this aspect as some what of a protector against "dark magic" or people who try to send bad my way......any time im having a hard time I will always tell my self to let go of control and just let what happens happen....I read once pluto n 12th natives are suppose to let go of control and just let life take you where it does......there has been several times, to many to count but I remember specific instances when im about to hit rock bottom and some sort of saving grace is always there to pick me up at the last moment.....that could be my jupiter in the 2nd house as well though idl......... I dont know much about it else but I have a strong feeling it's some sort of a protector.....

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