Lindaland
  Astrology 2.0
  without a birth time - what can we learn?

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   without a birth time - what can we learn?
Libralove09
Newflake

Posts: 0
From:
Registered: Oct 2009

posted December 23, 2008 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libralove09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, im just wondering, if u don't have some ones birthtime or location, but just the date, what can i learn?

as in, if i put in a random birthtime, and guess of a location, which part of the synastry chart will still be accurate? will the persons planets still acurately be placed in my houses if my birth data is fine?

will aspects between these planets still be pretty accurate?

IP: Logged

FistOfLegend
unregistered
posted December 23, 2008 06:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The aspects and signs still reveal a lot.

IP: Logged

Libralove09
Newflake

Posts: 0
From:
Registered: Oct 2009

posted December 23, 2008 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libralove09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what about there planets, will they be correctly placed in my houses? iv tried many many random birth times, but the persons planets still fall into the same houses of mine, the only thing that is changing is my planets in the partners houses.

?

IP: Logged

MysticStarlight
unregistered
posted December 23, 2008 06:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Their planets will always fall in the same houses of yours (maybe there could be an exception if it is a faster moving planet and close to a cusp). The only thing you don't know is where their houses are.

IP: Logged

good girl
Knowflake

Posts: 127
From:
Registered: Apr 2009

posted December 23, 2008 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OOOoohhh!! I would do a solar chart! I love solar charts! I believe they are pretty much as accurate as a natal.
The only difference is that it is represented differently. For example if your natal has pluto in the 1st the solar will have ruler of 8th in 1st= pretty much the same thing!
VERY ACCURATE!

IP: Logged

Libralove09
Newflake

Posts: 0
From:
Registered: Oct 2009

posted December 23, 2008 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libralove09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for clearing this up everyone, how do i do a solar chart good girl, is it on astro?

IP: Logged

good girl
Knowflake

Posts: 127
From:
Registered: Apr 2009

posted December 24, 2008 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can do a solar chart easily. Simply use the sun degree as the asc/rinsing degree. Thus the sun is always conj. the ASc.
So if the sun is 10 deg. libra, then the Asc becomes 10 deg. libra.

So for our example of a 10 degree libra Asc:
Each house there after is 10 degress the next sign. For ex. 2nd house would be 10 scorpio, 3rd would be 10 Sagittarius, 4th would be 10 capricorn and so forth.

It is very accurate and easy. However to go to astrodienst you play with the time until the asc is the degree of the sun--- the problem is astro. uses the placidius system and the following houses won't be the same degree, which it has to be for a solar. (equal house system)

IP: Logged

aniketkno
Newflake

Posts: 6
From:
Registered: Jul 2010

posted May 09, 2011 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aniketkno     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THANK YOU!! I ALWAYS WANTED TO KNO HOW TO MAKE A SOLAR CHART!!

IP: Logged

JoJo
Knowflake

Posts: 77
From:
Registered: Mar 2011

posted May 09, 2011 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Question: if you don't have someone's birth time, can you make a solar chart and use in in synastry? If so, do you compare their solar chart to your natal chart, or do you make a solar chart for yourself and compare the two solar charts?

Thanks!

IP: Logged

love being Aries
Knowflake

Posts: 77
From:
Registered: Apr 2011

posted May 09, 2011 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by good girl:
You can do a solar chart easily. Simply use the sun degree as the asc/rinsing degree. Thus the sun is always conj. the ASc.
So if the sun is 10 deg. libra, then the Asc becomes 10 deg. libra.

So for our example of a 10 degree libra Asc:
Each house there after is 10 degress the next sign. For ex. 2nd house would be 10 scorpio, 3rd would be 10 Sagittarius, 4th would be 10 capricorn and so forth.

It is very accurate and easy. However to go to astrodienst you play with the time until the asc is the degree of the sun--- the problem is astro. uses the placidius system and the following houses won't be the same degree, which it has to be for a solar. (equal house system)


means that solar return chart for every year would be same?? because if for each year we put libra 10 on ascendant then each year we get the same houses and same signs, only the planets will change position and that too won't be the slow moving planets?

m sorry m new to solar return charts and i 'm really not getting that how can they foretell anything if they are same for every year???

IP: Logged

Coffee
Knowflake

Posts: 1559
From: Leeds
Registered: Apr 2009

posted May 09, 2011 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It depends how you do astrology. If you use a planet centred way, like Magi astrology, no birth time is fine. If you use a house centred way, you really need a birth time.

If no birth time, you can use events to rectify a chart, which means you work out the birth time, thus enabling you to work out which sign goes on whichever house.

The Magi society is an attractive way for people who have no birth time. Saying no more on them.

IP: Logged

love being Aries
Knowflake

Posts: 77
From:
Registered: Apr 2011

posted May 09, 2011 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
coffee: thank you for sharing about magi astrology, i'm finding it rather interesting

IP: Logged

Coffee
Knowflake

Posts: 1559
From: Leeds
Registered: Apr 2009

posted May 09, 2011 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Until they start asking you for money Nice research, but please avoid. They make too much of Chiron. Read the way they sell it. If that doesn't put you off, go join them and make the same mistake as many others.

IP: Logged

VenusDiSirius
Knowflake

Posts: 1000
From: Praha
Registered: Aug 2010

posted May 09, 2011 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My natal and solar charts r so similar and complementary,it's scary. But,without natal,solar is useless... Pay attention to every aspect and planet,besides Moon's degree,it's fast.

IP: Logged

love being Aries
Knowflake

Posts: 77
From:
Registered: Apr 2011

posted May 10, 2011 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Coffee:
Until they start asking you for money Nice research, but please avoid. They make too much of Chiron. Read the way they sell it. If that doesn't put you off, go join them and make the same mistake as many others.

yeah i was also wondering, too much chiron and then all the celebrity gossip alongwith it :s

IP: Logged

Yrone
Knowflake

Posts: 189
From:
Registered: Apr 2011

posted May 10, 2011 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well expressions like supernuclearcinderellasheartbrakesclash followed tightly by the fees put me off

IP: Logged

All times are Eastern Standard Time

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Linda-Goodman.com

Copyright © 2011

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a