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Topic: without a birth time - what can we learn?
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Libralove09
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posted December 23, 2008 06:38 PM
  
ok, im just wondering, if u don't have some ones birthtime or location, but just the date, what can i learn?as in, if i put in a random birthtime, and guess of a location, which part of the synastry chart will still be accurate? will the persons planets still acurately be placed in my houses if my birth data is fine? will aspects between these planets still be pretty accurate? IP: Logged |
FistOfLegend
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posted December 23, 2008 06:39 PM
The aspects and signs still reveal a lot.IP: Logged |
Libralove09
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posted December 23, 2008 06:41 PM
what about there planets, will they be correctly placed in my houses? iv tried many many random birth times, but the persons planets still fall into the same houses of mine, the only thing that is changing is my planets in the partners houses.? IP: Logged |
MysticStarlight
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posted December 23, 2008 06:59 PM
Their planets will always fall in the same houses of yours (maybe there could be an exception if it is a faster moving planet and close to a cusp). The only thing you don't know is where their houses are.IP: Logged |
good girl
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posted December 23, 2008 07:14 PM
OOOoohhh!! I would do a solar chart! I love solar charts! I believe they are pretty much as accurate as a natal.
The only difference is that it is represented differently. For example if your natal has pluto in the 1st the solar will have ruler of 8th in 1st= pretty much the same thing!
VERY ACCURATE!IP: Logged |
Libralove09
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posted December 23, 2008 07:27 PM
thanks for clearing this up everyone, how do i do a solar chart good girl, is it on astro?IP: Logged |
good girl
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posted December 24, 2008 10:33 AM
You can do a solar chart easily. Simply use the sun degree as the asc/rinsing degree. Thus the sun is always conj. the ASc.
So if the sun is 10 deg. libra, then the Asc becomes 10 deg. libra.So for our example of a 10 degree libra Asc:
Each house there after is 10 degress the next sign. For ex. 2nd house would be 10 scorpio, 3rd would be 10 Sagittarius, 4th would be 10 capricorn and so forth. It is very accurate and easy. However to go to astrodienst you play with the time until the asc is the degree of the sun--- the problem is astro. uses the placidius system and the following houses won't be the same degree, which it has to be for a solar. (equal house system) IP: Logged |
aniketkno
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posted May 09, 2011 04:03 AM
THANK YOU!! I ALWAYS WANTED TO KNO HOW TO MAKE A SOLAR CHART!!  IP: Logged |
JoJo
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posted May 09, 2011 10:57 AM
Question: if you don't have someone's birth time, can you make a solar chart and use in in synastry? If so, do you compare their solar chart to your natal chart, or do you make a solar chart for yourself and compare the two solar charts?Thanks! IP: Logged |
love being Aries
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posted May 09, 2011 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by good girl:
You can do a solar chart easily. Simply use the sun degree as the asc/rinsing degree. Thus the sun is always conj. the ASc.
So if the sun is 10 deg. libra, then the Asc becomes 10 deg. libra.So for our example of a 10 degree libra Asc:
Each house there after is 10 degress the next sign. For ex. 2nd house would be 10 scorpio, 3rd would be 10 Sagittarius, 4th would be 10 capricorn and so forth. It is very accurate and easy. However to go to astrodienst you play with the time until the asc is the degree of the sun--- the problem is astro. uses the placidius system and the following houses won't be the same degree, which it has to be for a solar. (equal house system)
means that solar return chart for every year would be same?? because if for each year we put libra 10 on ascendant then each year we get the same houses and same signs, only the planets will change position and that too won't be the slow moving planets? m sorry m new to solar return charts and i 'm really not getting that how can they foretell anything if they are same for every year???
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Coffee
Knowflake Posts: 1559
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 09, 2011 01:39 PM
It depends how you do astrology. If you use a planet centred way, like Magi astrology, no birth time is fine. If you use a house centred way, you really need a birth time.If no birth time, you can use events to rectify a chart, which means you work out the birth time, thus enabling you to work out which sign goes on whichever house. The Magi society is an attractive way for people who have no birth time. Saying no more on them. IP: Logged |
love being Aries
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posted May 09, 2011 03:19 PM
coffee: thank you for sharing about magi astrology, i'm finding it rather interestingIP: Logged |
Coffee
Knowflake Posts: 1559
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posted May 09, 2011 03:23 PM
Until they start asking you for money  Nice research, but please avoid. They make too much of Chiron. Read the way they sell it. If that doesn't put you off, go join them and make the same mistake as many others.IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted May 09, 2011 04:50 PM
My natal and solar charts r so similar and complementary,it's scary. But,without natal,solar is useless... Pay attention to every aspect and planet,besides Moon's degree,it's fast.IP: Logged |
love being Aries
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posted May 10, 2011 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by Coffee:
Until they start asking you for money Nice research, but please avoid. They make too much of Chiron. Read the way they sell it. If that doesn't put you off, go join them and make the same mistake as many others.
yeah i was also wondering, too much chiron and then all the celebrity gossip alongwith it :s IP: Logged |
Yrone
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posted May 10, 2011 07:12 AM
Well expressions like supernuclearcinderellasheartbrakesclash followed tightly by the fees put me off IP: Logged |
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