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afflictedvenus
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posted December 24, 2008 04:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message
hi,I read your post about your daughter having moon/chiron and about your mum/dad, did you manage to read my reply if not I'll try to remember what I wrote,if you replied after that I didn't see it,

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posted December 24, 2008 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
afflictedvenus, thanks so much for finding me! No, I didn't get to read your reply to my latest post. LL went haywire for a bit, then erased my last entry, and I guess whatever posts came after that. Sorry for the trouble of re-posting!

Thanks so much!
Merry Christmas!

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afflictedvenus
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posted December 25, 2008 04:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message
that's ok,if I remember correctly her's is in the 12th house and I wrote that it's highly likely she experienced her wounding in the womb,(aquarius?) it could've been that you did'nt always feel pregnant or that at times you were on/off with it all,the most important thing I wanted to tell you was that moo/chiron above all else shows an increased sensitivity to the mother's wounding not that mother will wound you,but I have often seen the 12th show external events whilst you were in the womb and is more likely to be felt subconsciously as you grow up

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posted December 25, 2008 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
My pregnancy was an unexpected "surprise". I was only 26 yrs old, and felt I was too young, and it was too soon. My husband and I had just gotten engaged a few months before I found out, and our wedding plans were only 3 short months away. I felt very angry and had many emotional break downs. All I could think about was the wedding, and the dress, and that I would be a pregnant bride and everyone would think we got engaged because i was pregnant. I also had the WORST morning sickness. I lost almost 10 pounds the first trimester. It lasted 6 months instead of the usual 3 months, and I was miserable the whole time. There were so many times I would be throwing up at night, and would just fall asleep on the bathroom floor. I hated being sick, and I hated being so tired and useless all the time. I felt like I wasn't ready to be a mom, and i was really scared.

My pregnancy put a strain on our newlywed marriage, with me being so emotional and hormonal all the time, and my husband started going out more and more, coming back drunk, or smelling like perfume. Of course we would get into huge screaming fights, which I'm sure is not very healthy for a pregnant woman. I was in a constant state of stress, depression, and sadness at what was happening in my marriage.
I should have known it would have an effect on my child.

Looking back on it now, I am so ashamed for ever having those feelings. I wish I could have been one of those glowing, happy, pregnant woman who are so loving, and grateful towards the life growing inside them. I should have swallowed my own selfish pain, so that I wouldn't pass on the pain and emotional burdens to my child.

I am so grateful for my daughter. I never thought I could love another human being this much. I can't undo the damage I've done, so the only thing i can hope for, is to give her as much love as I possibly can to make up for the lack of it, in the womb. I am always so scared I'm going to screw up, and end up messing her up, or ruining her life. Sometimes I wonder if it's possible NOT to hurt your kids in one way or another. I feel like you hurt them when you try to do what's best for them, AND hurt them if you don't try to do what's best for them. Parenting is so hard! haha.

Before you mentioned it afflictedvenus, I hadn't even thought twice about the whole emotional turmoil I went through during the pregnancy. They actually say there is a chemical in the brain that makes women forget the bad stuff that happened during pregnancy and the birth, so that they will be willing to have more children. It's nature's way of making sure the human race survives and women keep having kids, by giving them amnesia to the bad parts. Kind of sick, but effective I guess! haha.

I cannot tell you how grateful i am that you are sharing this with me. It's made me realize so much! Were you ever able to make peace with your mom? Do you have a close relationship with her now? I wonder if she wounded you not knowing, like in a subconscious way, or do you feel it was deliberate and malicious, and she knew what she was doing? I hope you have been able to heal some of those wounds, and make peace with her! I hope you're having a very Merry Christmas afflictedvenus! Thanks again!

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posted December 26, 2008 05:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message
we all pass on our subconscious to our kids and no one can escape this,I do know gemgemgem that any hard aspects we have can be expressed positively or negatively and if a child with hard aspects get positive messages they learn to use what they've got in a good way,

no I don't believe my mother did hurt me deliberately,she's been on tranquilisers for many years and just isn't connected to reality,she was a victim herself and chose not to look deeply or go thru the healing process,I still don't have a good relationship with her,I've had a good amount of therapy though and stopped waiting for her to realise the damage she caused and during the summer she came for a couple of days and whilst I was washing up I actually realised that I wasn't angry at her anymore,I don't know when I stopped being hostile to the very thought of her so it was a strange moment,I see that she is very lonely and still damaged even in her 60's yet I'm happy and surrounded by love,

I've got 6 kids,4 eldest all have tight moon chiron squares,I breast fed them all,they were always made to feel wanted yet I know deep down that they've seen me living my wound and come through the other side,as you say .. we can't undo anything all we can do is keep moving forward

I know some top astrologers that say chiron isn't as such a personal planet it's more about a collective wound that gets carried,like it's no ones fault really,yes we are all ultimately responsible for our actions but it goes back much further than you or I especially when the 12th is implicated

I have good relationships with my kids (eldest now 18) it is hard work being a mum and you're constantly adapting to them growing up,they do know when you try though and they do forgive you for getting it wrong now and again,chiron knows more than anyone than perfection is not possible in human form.

gemgemgem the only reason my relationship with my own mother is still fractured is because she couldn't/wouldn't go through the pain of the wound to heal it enough to move forward,I don't blame her for the bad things that happened as a result of my wounds,I just wish she could've been stronger to get more out of her own life.

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afflictedvenus
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posted December 26, 2008 05:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message
and I forgot to say merry christmas and happy new year to you too

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posted December 28, 2008 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
Afflictedvenus, you have 6 kids, and you work too?? When do you find time to be on LL? That's amazing!

I'm sorry to hear that your mother was the victim of her own personal wounds, and couldn't really help or heal herself, even now. It's quite toxic to be around people like that when you're a child. At least you do not carry any more anger in your heart, and are surrounded by your own loving family and children. I hope someday she can look inside, and look to your life for some direction, and heal herself of her wounds. She needs a lot of love.

Your children are very lucky to have you as a mom! Maybe one day you can share your secret to balancing it all! I'm still having trouble with that! haha.

Happy New Year! Have a wonderful 2009!

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afflictedvenus
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posted December 28, 2008 06:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message
thank you Randall for finding our old posts...well I'm presuming it was you?

I have a good partner that helps(most of the time) I work from home which is good but I don't get too much time to socialise and figured this was a good way to meet people and learn something too.I've also got saturn in cancer on my south node so I'm under obligation from the higher powers to take what I've got into the big wide world whilst having a family to take care of.I'd go mad just being mum and mate too.

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