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Topic: ???Weird! Always positive transits to Venus & Juno during break-ups.
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alvarella777
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posted December 28, 2008 08:54 PM
Hi friends,I just stumbled over something that I never realized until now: Whenever a relationship-break-up occured in my life, my Venus and/or Juno, sometimes my Moon and also my 1st/7th house-axis, had more or less positive/supporting transit-aspects! Huh - that's weird, isn't it?
Break-up no.1)
- tr. Jupiter sextile my Venus and opposing my Juno
- tr. Uranus sextile my ASC/trine my DSC
- tr. Pluto cj my ASC/oppos. my DSC
- tr. Chiron cj. my Venus and trining my Juno Break-up no. 2) - tr. Jupiter squaring my Venus
- tr. Pluto cj. my ASC and trining my Mars
- tr. NN sextiling my Venus and opposing my Juno
Break-up no. 3)
- tr. Saturn trine my ASC and sextiling my DSC
- tr. Uranus cj. my NN, sextile my Juno and opposing my Venus
- tr. Pluto sextile my Cupido
Break-up no. 4)
- tr. Saturn trine my ASC / sextile my DSC Break-up no. 5)
(since it is the latest, I still now the decisive week for that break-up) - tr. Sun cj. my Juno
- tr. Venus cj. my Juno
- tr. Mercury cj. my DSC
- tr. Chiron trine my Cupido
- tr. Jupiter square my Cupido
- tr. Saturn trine my Ceres
- tr. Pluto trine my Ceres
- tr. Neptune sextile my Moon and quintile my Juno
- tr. NN sextile my Moon and quintile my Juno
Any strange coincidences with your own break-up-transists??? This is contradictory, in a way...
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Peri
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posted December 30, 2008 06:46 AM
I noticed this too, for some reason asteroid Union and Juno are prominent during break-ups tooIP: Logged |
Peri
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posted January 14, 2009 02:54 AM
"Juno symbolizes the yearning for full mystic union that is emotionally, sexually, and psychologically fulfilling." That's the answer to the age-old question: What do women want?
Yeah, right. And people in Hell want ice water.
Nonetheless, when a woman goes into marriage, that's exactly what she's looking for, some mystic union. I kid you not. It's been said that a woman expects a man to fulfill her every need and that a man expects every women to fulfill his one need. More truth than poetry, my friends. The younger and less experienced a woman is when she gets married, the more inclined she is to believe she'll get it. Most women will usually give it a good honest try and not give up entirely the first time her beloved farts at the dinner table, but at some point she realizes that it just ain't gonna happen. This is popularly referred to as
when the honeymoon is over.
Both parties brought certain expectations to the wedding, but more often than not, as time
goes on, these are not met. Sometimes one party is perfectly satisfied, maybe because
they got the better half of the deal, or perhaps they simply had lower expectations. At any rate, once a woman realizes things aren't quite up to snuff she'll start the Juno Cycle during which she'll become a ***** . If there's a single man out there who's reading this and wonders why women do what they do, this is your answer. Reread Demetra George's quote above and recognize that you're missing the mark somewhere. It's probably nothing you do on purpose, just something she's expecting that, unrealistic though it may be, all she sees is that it isn't being delivered. Take note, if you're in a relationship with someone who keeps asking for something and you're simply ignoring it, thinking it will go away.
Rest assured that sooner or later it's going to blow up in your face. Trust me.
That is the core reason for all meltdowns. Guys certainly can be dissatisfied with their
partners as well, but they typically handle it in different ways. In fact, everyone is going to handle it based on where Juno is in their Natal Chart. In other words, when a
relationship isn't meeting expectations, the denial of these needs emerges in a form and
setting that is indicated by Juno's horoscope placement. The triggers for these problems
can lie in issues such as infidelity or failure of one party to acknowledge and/or appreciate the sacrifices made by the other on their behalf. Fears in relationships, such as fear of abandonment, betrayal, or losing their identity to the other, can also fall within Juno's purview. Likewise, power plays of all varieties, whether it's withholding sex, imposing guilt trips, responding to requests for something with passive aggression, putting the other
down in public, using the children as pawns, regarding the partner as either arm candy or a status symbol, and so forth, are all influenced by Juno, both by placement on the Natal Chart, in synastry, and by transit. Juno is also the patron goddess for oppressed women of all varieties, though she shares quite a bit of that with her fellow goddesses, depending on the source of oppression.
Major relationship events, whether they're related to courtship, marriage, weddings,
separations, or divorce, are timed by Juno transits. In synastry, which compares the charts of two people for compatibility, Juno is also a major player regarding both how well their expectations will be met as well as if there are any karmic issues being worked out. Even if a person never gets married, it's likely to relate back to Juno, particularly if she's retrograde in their chart. In a nutshell, she's all about conventional committed relationships, particularly marriage, the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Note that it takes Juno approximately four years and four months to complete one trip
around the Zodiac, including her retrograde cycles. It might be interesting to look at your relationships, if they last that long, to see if you can recognize any Juno cycles,
particularly blow-ups/meltdowns and reconciliations. As she goes tripping through the Zodiac in transit there will be predictable contacts with Natal planets that will probably have a fairly consistent effect, including major blowups, though the location of the other planets will have some influence as well. Sometimes Juno is smiling during a transit and others she's snarling...
http://www.astrocollege.com/campus/libraries/Juno.pdf IP: Logged |
alvarella777
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posted January 14, 2009 06:43 PM
Thanks for posting this insightful material Peri!IP: Logged |
leapinglemur14
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posted January 14, 2009 07:44 PM
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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted January 14, 2009 08:10 PM
Hi Alvarella777,Pluto conjunct ASC isn't a positive transit. It's not always negative either, but it usually signals a strong milestone in one's life. Pluto crossing on of the angles (ASC, MC, IC, DSC) is the strongest life changer you can have. Also, the same with Uranus in hard aspect to Venus. That one is usually a shock. It can bring a break up as a surprise or it can bring someone into your life as a surprise. As for the other measurements, the sextiles and trines, those don't trump the outer planet tense aspects, they are merely supporting a statement that relationship issues are in the air, whether positive or negative. As for Chiron conjunct Venus, normally I'd say that it's a heartbreak transit but I'm still pondering some of the "Magi Astrology" philosophy, but you are proof that Chiron transiting Venus is not always the "Cinderella Transit" that the Magi astrologers say it is. Is it possible that with any of those break ups that they had a more positive affect on you later or were the break ups initiated by you, and you realized that it was a gift to yourself later on? Or were they painful, earth shattering break ups? Answering those questions might give some insight about the other aspects. IP: Logged |
alvarella777
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posted January 14, 2009 08:56 PM
GEOCOSMIC VALENTINE and the others: Well, I am pondering on the idea that all these break-ups ... might be "supporting" my own natal Juno in a sense that what my own Juno longs for was just not fulfilled in these relationships. So: "for the sake of my own Juno" these break-ups had to occur - in order to make the way free for Juno to take another chance with (maybe) a better suited candidate one day... In THAT way this even makes sense to me. The actual relationship had to go - maybe because it was not good for my natal Juno... (?) So, on a very abstract level, my own Juno has profited from these break-ups.Concerning the qualities of the listed break-ups: In all cases I was the one who said "good bye" - sometimes I hurt the other person by that, sometimes it was more or less mutual, and I was just the one who dared to say it, openly. Only the last break-up in the list (and the last one in my life) was totally hurting for me too - I was shattered - I just HAD to leave that relationship, because it was awfully destructive - but acknkowledging this didn't help that I still loved that man at that time. Still today I feel a very strong attraction to him ... IP: Logged |
Geocosmic Valentine
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posted January 14, 2009 11:25 PM
Great explaination. Also, you just made me wonder if there have to be a few supportive/smooth aspects in order for one to be relaxed enough to do what needs to be done, just so we're not so scared to take the risk. There has to be even a tiny level of comfort or faith that we're doing the right thing when it happens.I hope that made sense. This was a good question and something for me to take a look at when I come across it. IP: Logged |
Diandra23
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posted January 15, 2009 06:55 AM
That was a very interesting article Peri Thankx as for Juno reaching the angles as indicating the major life changer..i never heard of that before - is it always regarding love relationships? My BF IS having his Juno reaching the DSC and jup/merc/NN are also passing his 7H. What would that indicate as for changes? As for me,Pluto is 5orb away from my IC-this is also sign of major changings isnt it? IP: Logged | |
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