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posted December 30, 2008 01:36 PM         

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Saturn kills things in the bedroom for me definately, but every one feels differently. I'm a libra with taurus rising and really romantic, a man's saturn on my venus or mars is awful and I feel inhibited, especialy my venus. But like MVM said it's not always immidiate, it's kind of insidious and slowly happens over a period of weeks or even months.

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posted December 30, 2008 02:29 PM         

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You know what makes it worse too? I almost always feel really comfortable with the Saturn person at first, and become uninhibited. I think that's the hook. It's weird because I remember now in my ex-husband and I's synastry chart, my Saturn opposed his Venus, but that didn't become really activated at all until I felt the effects of his Saturn squaring my Sun. Once I started feeling stifled by him, I completely went into my own Saturn mode and almost couldn't help behaving coldly toward him as far as physical intimacy.
Bad cycle.
What's really kind of sad about it is that Saturn binds, and I find it important, but I can't stand the damage that's done with the hard Saturn stuff. It represses, suppresses, and oppresses, and not always in that 'Saturnian lesson to learn' kind of way.
It just feels like a lot of fear on both sides and I think the real lesson is FOR Saturn sometimes, because it's being challenged and made to look at why it feels so threatened. It forces the couple to look at stuff, but if one of them or both of them aren't dedicated enough, then it can destroy the relationship.

Almost for sure it kills the romance/intimacy for some time in the process.

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posted December 31, 2008 12:27 AM         

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to me the point is not what saturn does to your relationship, but what your relationship does to saturn...by which i mean;

a wise man once told me that you love people not for the good bits but despite the bad ones, all those tendencies saturn brings into the relationship are there, i'm not arguing that...but if you love someone enough, you will find a way to get to the positive expression of those limitations and "stiflings"...

and that is why the real, lifetime(s) bonds have saturn elements. in order to find your way to the BEST use of your saturn, you have to love someone enough to want not to hurt them with it but guide them. so y ou both grow through the natural tendencies to stifle or be stifled (or flee) because it means that much to you. saturn has to learn to sweeten the medecine, to relax somewhat or at least find a constructive way to express the "lesson"; the saturnized partner needs to admit tht maybe saturn has a point and is trying to help(a few boundaries and a little discipline might make all the difference in effectively carrying out one's dreams), and can help the saturn person lighten up a little and enjoy the ride in whatever way suggested by his/her planets...together they can expand each other's parameters if only they are willing to work it through.

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posted December 31, 2008 09:44 AM         

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sh!t, my natal venus squares my saturn, and my saturn is in the same place nearly for every one around my age from 88 to about 1990, that narrows down the selection. lol

my mars trines this saturn though.

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posted December 31, 2008 11:11 AM         

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I once read that the thing with saturn is that it is motivated by fear to conquer. And if that means to play the part of passion, it can do this very well. Until the mars person has been conquer, usually in the bedroom. Then saturn goes back to feeling safe and commence with its cold nature....yes eventually killing things in the bedroom.

The reason it is not apparent at first is that it may take years for saturn to conquer, but it does in the end.

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posted October 31, 2009 01:36 PM         

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just a little bump

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posted October 31, 2009 02:35 PM         

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Maybe the reason Saturn's restrictive energy isn't apparent at the beginning of the relationship is because both sides of an aspect is always played out. In a Venus-Saturn aspect, for example, first Venus is expressed (fun), then Saturn (un-fun) is expressed. Saturn, because it's the slower moving planet will tend to be the more insistent one. And throughout the relationship there will be this dynamic of Venus (fun) & Saturn (Unfun), until someone gives.

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posted October 31, 2009 03:16 PM         

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In synastry, I've noticed Saturn creeps up on you slowly - you won't feel it at first, generally. Things in the bedroom might be really great at first, but then after a while it slows down and halts.

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Yep, this is my experience.

Initially, Saturn makes the relationship feel really important. Then, because you take the relationship so seriously, there's a build-up of little (and big) hurts and disappointments and ways the person being hit by the Saturn feels not good enough or not loved enough, and ways the Saturn person feels let down by the other......and it all starts to play out semiconsciously or unconsciously in the sexual arena, with the people closing off to each other on an intimate level.

There must be ways for mature people to work with these energies and prevent this, but Saturn bed-death does happen, bigtime.

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posted November 03, 2009 02:53 AM         

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My Saturn doesn't make any aspects to any planets itself, i read somewhere that it means that u incarnated with no karma and a numerology done when i was 4yrs old in 1989 confirms that

BUT my Venus opposes Saturn and yeah it does suck (so does Jupiter squaring Saturn) but it hasn't been hard or difficult. I'm no prude or frigid in the bedroom, actually im quite the opposite, very open and free...i am the ultimate porn star but due to Venus's hard aspect to Saturn, it more of a front to deflect true intimacy, which i haven't really experienced. I get scared when someone tries to get close, i get defensive and turn away. Liz Green says this particular aspect with women is difficult in that they dont trust other women, its like the old school courtesan/high class hooker...everybody wants you but ur alone in ur bed at night. Very interesting.

It hasn't worked out too bad for me, im very lucky there's many men that are worship the ground i walk on. It makes life much easier and truthfully, the whole "marriage/babies" thing bores me, i couldn't think of anything worse than being stuck at home every night cooking and cleaning and watching boring tv with the one person...ugh

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posted November 03, 2009 08:02 AM         

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I have venus square saturn at 0 degrees, with saturn conjunct my dsc by 2. I also have eros in capricorn. I have never orgasmed with another person. I just cant for some reason.

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posted November 03, 2009 10:00 AM         

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amowls...OMG me TOO, u reckon cos its cos of the venus square saturn? my saturn is in scorpio, in the 8th house too, tho and my venus is in taurus...complete opposites

its only happened 3 times in the 8 yrs ive been sexually active and it was only when true intimacy and trust was achieved...ive always had the theory that when i meet the one im supposed to be with then ill know the intimacy ive been looking for but replacing with the cheap substitute (ie. LUST)

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posted November 06, 2009 12:00 AM         

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hey fisty! I missed you!

how about a natal venus opposite saturn?

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posted November 06, 2009 12:09 AM         

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I can do sexy email chat, thats all.

Each planet/sign will kill things in the bedroom if not well positioned in your natal, in synastry, in composite, in 1st meeting chart, in transits.

No one sign is responsible.

Saturn is likely to be respectful (hear that too many times associated with Saturn)maybe plan sex sessions in advance, boss you around, and go on and on because thats what society tells you to do.

A quick change of personality and (ahem) no talking in the middle of a workout is a real passion killer. (She seemed nice at first)

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