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Topic: Astrological Abuse Aspects
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afroken
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posted January 07, 2009 09:32 AM
I have 12th Pluto and Sun in Scorpio conjunct. With Satun in Aquarius and Moon in Taurus forming a T-square. I feel emotionally abused.. At home by siblings and mum, my saturn is in 3rd.IP: Logged |
FistOfLegend
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posted January 07, 2009 10:45 AM
The best football player in my school had Sun square Pluto. He was built like a machine. His neck was the thick, his veins were popping out. He was muscular all over. And when he played football, watch out.....
That kid was a power-puncher. He had tremendous presence, inspired a lot of people on field. He was pretty amazing. IP: Logged |
FistOfLegend
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posted January 07, 2009 10:47 AM
But yeah. I would wonder where someone would get so much energy from. Maybe strife at home, conflicts with others. Powerful energy like that doesn't come from nowhere. IP: Logged |
leapinglemur14
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posted January 07, 2009 07:42 PM
ok im going to attempt at posting my brothers chart... he was physically abusive and therefor mentally as well
this is our synastry..mine and my bros..
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_61gw_01_06_mary_bro.2051.26654.gif&res=100&va=&cid=loqfileV5Rqrl-u1216619807 this is his chart.. http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_2gw_06_bro.2491.20381.gif&res=100&va=&cid=loqfileV5Rqrl-u1216619807 IP: Logged |
libraschoice7
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posted January 07, 2009 08:03 PM
Well I guess that makes me a bad person, I have Nessus square Pluto and Nessus conjunction Moon...even though I've never harmed anyone or animal in my life  ------------------
Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer "I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me" IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted January 07, 2009 08:07 PM
I'm not buying a lot of this stuff, Libraschoice. No single aspect should probably be isolated and taken out of context, IMO.
And we always have free will.IP: Logged |
FistOfLegend
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posted January 07, 2009 08:10 PM
A good place to look is Chiron, where one wounds or is wounded by others.
Chiron is in his seventh, opposite his ascendant and square his Moon and Saturn (that are in opposition). It's probably why bullies are known to be insecure. He doesn't seem happy with himself.
His Mars is square Jupiter, but that to me isn't cruel. He could lose his temper easily, though, for the same reasons as Mars/Uranus. Lack of space, being controlled. Maybe even battle over viewpoints (Jupiter, beliefs).
The Sun conjuncts Venus very closely, and there's been talk about lack of consideration and cruelty when this shows up.
There's a lot of red in your synastry. Signifies a lot of struggle and problems. It's not too easy to deal with, but there's always other options, like walking away. It's sad that some people hurt their own family. I feel for you. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted January 07, 2009 10:21 PM
I think IQ was referring to synastry when he said those Nessus/Pluto aspects.IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted January 07, 2009 10:22 PM
FistChiron is also the wounded healer. A wise teacher/healer from experience. With Chiron, at some stage you have to choose whether you are going to focus on the wounding or the healing. IP: Logged |
CrabbyFish
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posted January 07, 2009 10:43 PM
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CrabbyFish
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posted January 07, 2009 10:54 PM
I would say that..always..when you see any aspect such as Mars/Uranus...Mars/Saturn...Mars/Pluto...both individuallly and in synastry, check the WHOLE chart carefully. In my mom's case..(mars conjunct Uranus) she never beat me. She never even spanked me. But if you read the reply I left in the beginning of the thread, you'll see what can happen. So it doesnt necessarily mean something bad. One person may even compliment this aspect and tone it down or have a very very beneficial Pluto aspect to mercury or some other planet that bge profound and healing. Help the other probe their depths of their anger and transform it. IP: Logged |
leapinglemur14
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posted January 08, 2009 02:08 AM
thanks Fist...yes its been hard and i'm sure it will get harder..walking away is a little hard bc of my family life so to speak..and i want to stick around just incase this carries on to his children that he plans on having. as for you saying he's not happy with himself...well he never really did much with his life. He's smart, but never graduated college doesn't even have a 2yr degree and lived at home till he was about 30. He has a hard time getting and maintaining a job. Bc of his criminal record and I honestly think he's too lazy to work.
But socially..he's a success, Everyone loves him, which what makes this situation harder. It makes him the cliched "two-faced" gemini. Like he's got two lives..
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Melynna
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posted January 08, 2009 07:29 AM
My ex-bf verbally abused me (although in a very subtle way). He also physically abused me - once. I broke up with him after that. I couldn't tell at the time but after all that I starting researching, and he's got all the characteristics of an abuser. Extremely manipulative, controlling, very insecure, etc...
Anyway, here are the aspects of his natal chart (I'll put everything because I can't tell what's important)Planet Aspect Planet Orb/Value
Sun Conjunction Venus 3.48 632
Sun Conjunction Jupiter 1.16 785
Sun Square Uranus 1.22 -151
Sun Trine Neptune 0.35 167
Sun Sextile Pluto 1.23 216
Sun Trine Ascendant 5.11 53
Sun Conjunction Midheaven 4.22 338
Moon Trine Mercury 4.40 71
Moon Trine Venus 6.45 25
Moon Square Mars 5.46 -3
Moon Trine Ascendant 5.22 30
Venus Conjunction Jupiter 5.04 236
Venus Square Uranus 2.26 -59
Venus Trine Neptune 3.14 54
Venus Sextile Pluto 2.25 63
Venus Trine Ascendant 1.23 58
Venus Conjunction Midheaven 8.10 51
Jupiter Square Uranus 2.38 -45
Jupiter Trine Neptune 1.51 54
Jupiter Sextile Pluto 2.39 40
Jupiter Trine Ascendant 6.27 10
Jupiter Conjunction Midheaven 3.05 138
Saturn Sextile Uranus 3.27 19
Saturn Square Neptune 4.14 -18
Saturn Square Ascendant 0.22 -38
Uranus Square Midheaven 5.44 -1
Neptune Sextile Pluto 0.48 48
Neptune Conjunction Ascendant 4.36 43
Neptune Trine Midheaven 4.56 8
Pluto Sextile Ascendant 3.48 1
3140 -315 2825 Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Placidus Orb:0
Sun Leo 18.24
Ascendant Sagittarius 13.13
Moon Aries 7.51
Mercury Leo 3.11
Venus Leo 14.36
Mars Cancer 2.05
Jupiter Leo 19.40
Saturn Virgo 13.35
Uranus Scorpio 17.02
Neptune Sagittarius 17.49 R
Pluto Libra 17.01
Midheaven Leo 22.46
Lilith Virgo 3.38
Asc node Virgo 8.28 Chiron Taurus 13.59
Ceres Aries 19.34
Pallas Aquarius 24.17 R
Juno Gemini 22.24
Vesta Taurus 16.41
Fortune Aries 0.00
South node Aries 0.00
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VinayM19
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posted January 08, 2009 07:35 AM
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tmiller
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posted January 08, 2009 07:58 AM
Can anyone tell me where abusive synastry aspects come into play w/ me an my friends synastry chart. It would be greatly appreciated (I brought this topic up)Friends Chart
PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree
Sun Scorpio 21°56'35 in house 1
Moon Capricorn 5°57'22 end of house 2
Mercury Sagittarius 7°02'09 in house 2
Venus Scorpio 5°21'04 end of house 12
Mars Leo 6°53'25 in house 9
Jupiter Cancer 5°24'37 end of house 8
Saturn Leo 29°52'31 in house 10
Uranus Scorpio 12°43'23 in house 1
Neptune Sagittarius 14°59'11 in house 2
Pluto Libra 15°30'05 in house 12
True Node Libra 14°40'07 in house 12
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.
HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Scorpio 5°33'19
2nd House Sagittarius 4°13'43
3rd House Capricorn 7°04'56
Imum Coeli Aquarius 12°16'46
5th House Pisces 15°12'17
6th House Aries 12°55'04
Descendant Taurus 5°33'19
8th House Gemini 4°13'43
9th House Cancer 7°04'56
Medium Coeli Leo 12°16'46
11th House Virgo 15°12'17
12th House Libra 12°55'04 My Chart
PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree
Sun Capricorn 1°15'54 end of house 3
Moon Gemini 6°06'55 in house 9
Mercury Sagittarius 27°23'10 in house 3
Venus Sagittarius 24°04'42 in house 3
Mars Leo 10°49'26 in house 11
Jupiter Cancer 1°02'48 end of house 9
Saturn Virgo 0°25'15 in house 11
Uranus Scorpio 14°54'49 in house 2
Neptune Sagittarius 16°25'31 in house 3
Pluto Libra 16°28'56 in house 1
True Node Libra 11°54'43 in house 1
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.
HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Libra 2°39'51
2nd House Libra 29°02'12
3rd House Scorpio 29°34'41
Imum Coeli Capricorn 3°03'37
5th House Aquarius 6°26'38
6th House Pisces 6°43'12
Descendant Aries 2°39'51
8th House Aries 29°02'12
9th House Taurus 29°34'41
Medium Coeli Cancer 3°03'37
11th House Leo 6°26'38
12th House Virgo 6°43'12 Thank you. IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 08, 2009 08:31 AM
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The way I have experienced Mars/Uranus hard aspects is that they do not want their freedom impinged upon. In other words, don't tell them what to do because that will undoubtedly make them do the opposite. I used to tease one of them that I knew the secret of how to make him do all sorts of things and that he was just lucky I have such a good heart!
Oh wow Love, I have a mars/uranus square and you've just described me. *walks sheepishly away* I did grow up in an unstable enviroment for about half my childhood so its kind of difficult for me to be maliciously abusive towards others, especially I believe as adults we should treat eachother equally with respect (7th house sun talking) . But, my mars is also squared by saturn so it kind of creates a repress/explode effect. IP: Logged |
FistOfLegend
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posted January 08, 2009 10:35 AM
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Fist
Chiron is also the wounded healer. A wise teacher/healer from experience. With Chiron, at some stage you have to choose whether you are going to focus on the wounding or the healing
Yeah, I knew that. IP: Logged |
Diandra23
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posted January 08, 2009 04:10 PM
i think we cannot generalise and say if someone has for example mars/uranus aspect,then it is an abusive person or violent - not at all!My bf has mars cj Uranus in his 5h in Sag.He appreciates freedom very much( Aqua Moon),but at the same time he is sweet and caring ( libra sun and cancer asc). He has never been violent or abusive to me.he tells me when he was younger he had a lot of anger within him.That he was a rebell. i think that he attracted persons that time that were going to be abusive,controlling and manipulative.He,by feeling too much pressure in his family,left home and all the injustice he was going through made him attract for example his ex-gf whom he found out she was not the person he thought. for example.in sinastry i would look at asteroid nessus in aspect to the angles and "malefic" planets hitting the IC.Also some hard aspects to the asc of the other. That girl had for instance:Pluto cj Jup/Mars/Saturn and skuare Nessus.Her mars skuared Sun. on their sinastry: her Nessus(cj IC) cj his asc
Her Mars/Saturn hitt his IC
hER uRAnus cj his Mars
Her Lilith cj his Juno
her Nessus skuared his Pluto
her Pluto/Jup skuared his ASC
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Inner depths
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posted January 08, 2009 08:04 PM
I think I'm in trouble then.....here goes with what is in my chart....Sun conj Chiron opposite Uranus square to mars. It's an ugly t square and my father was very horrible when I was a very young child. He had zero patience with children and would quickly bulldoze a person down. He was extremely violent as can be and I walked in extreme fear when I was around him. My biological mother's 2nd husband was not a nice person either.Myself, I can be quick to anger but have learned how to constructively and effectively redirect and use my anger. I am more concerned about the consequences of my actions and responsibility for my actions.... In my younger years I would attract the abusive type of man who treated my very poorly and would send my heart through the wringer many times...... ID IP: Logged |
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