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29thDegree
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posted January 08, 2009 09:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Ok, we have midpoint connections would this count...

My Pluto conjuncts His Venus/Pluto midpoint
His Pluto trines My Venus/Pluto midpoint

Would this still be twin soul connection?

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Kismet*
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posted January 08, 2009 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kismet*     Edit/Delete Message
Basically everybody born with that degree of Pluto would be considered his twin soul then? Nah, I don't think this is enough information. Midpoints are only important, in my opinion after a relationship has been established. What midpoints show is the gathering of energy between the two planets and how it affects each individual. Pluto moves too slow in my opinion. Check the faster moving planets.

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amowls
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posted January 08, 2009 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think trines are significant in midpoints.

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29thDegree
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posted January 08, 2009 09:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Well we have:

His Sun conjunct My Asc
Sun oppose Sun
Asc conjunct Asc
Moon conjunct Saturn both ways
NN conjunct his moon
my moon conjunct his SN
Venus trine Venus
Mars trine Mars
Valentine conjunct his Pluto
Valentine 71 degrees from my Pluto
etc.

So we have other connections too.

I just was wondering if this would be like what Linda Goodman talks about with twin souls and the information that IQ has provided us in this forum

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writesomething
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posted January 08, 2009 09:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Thats not enough. I would never count it.

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Iqhunk
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posted January 09, 2009 11:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Looks like a happy, loving, soul mate connection. I have seen only two absolutely certain twin soul relationships. In one, the male is running away from a truly wonderful soul. In another, the female even senses every thought in the male's head but they are separated by nations, religions etc etc.
Every person is not destined nor supposed to enjoy a happy life with the twin soul.
Many times twin souls unite in another dimension. On earth, it is mostly soul mates who we encounter, learn lessons and then either live happily ever after or move on to a better relationship.
To think we can only love our twin soul or be truly loved only by our twin soul is preposterous. Sometimes I think Linda Goodman misunderstood the concept of Twin Souls. Souls largely exist in clusters emanating from the OverSoul, incarnating across dimensions and timelines. One twin soul on Earth for every soul on Earth is a very simplistic concept.

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emma_duncan
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posted January 09, 2009 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
well said iqhunk

this obssession with soul mate twin mate just surprises me

"is he or she my soul mate? he or she was my soul mate but ran away from me....."

the truth of the matter is we make our own decisions to start or end a relationship., our relation with different people is different but there are common themes as well
a slfish person will be slefish in every relationship with probably e one and will love selfishly, a sensitive and consierate and honest person will be like so probably in e relationship and will love that way

and this thing "soul mate runner" in my opinion is just something we want to believe in to reduce our pain...when the fact is that someone who has chosen to hurt you has done so consciouly and not because it is fated, but either because they are selfish or immature....

bottomline...as you said to build relationships you dont need to be soul mate or twin mate, for this you need maturity, honesty and generosity of spirit...


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darkdreamer
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posted January 09, 2009 02:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message
IQ,

that was absolutely WONDERFUL, what you wrote!

It is exactly what I have come to thinking (not that I am not still curious about my own Twinsoul ).

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leapinglemur14
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posted January 09, 2009 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leapinglemur14     Edit/Delete Message
i say stop worrying whether this guy is your twin/soul mate
and enjoy your relationship with him. you guys sound like you have some very good connections that help make any relationship a good one. so enjoy it.
if you keep worrying about meeting your soulmate/twin soul you might miss all the wonderful things that are right in front of you. then if you never find your soulmate/twin soul not only will you be disappointed about that but you'll also regret all the other wonderful connections you missed out on.

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Diandra23
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posted January 09, 2009 04:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message
i think that at first you need to ask yourself what do you FEEL..without any judgements,preconceptions,influences of other ones.

Then,if deep inside you KNOW who you are to each other..only then you should look for astrology and research whatever you need or want to.

if i Žll tell you "no he is not your twin or soulmate"! Will you stop feeling that he IS,if you indeed feel it?

in my humble opinion,i guess you already know that he is a SM of yours.And i wish you a true beautiful Story with him/her.

When i met mine,i knew all along without running away. and if you ask me,i do not want to meet Twin Souls,as SM relationship are the most deepest and caring bond you will ever feel.
SM trully helps one another to reach a Higher Potencial,another level of Love.Without the turmoil and sorrow and pain that a Twin Soul Relationship carries.

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darkdreamer
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posted January 09, 2009 04:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Diandra,

I definitely agree with the first part of your post. If someone is a soulmate, one just knows or rather feels it.

But
"SM trully helps one another to reach a Higher Potencial,another level of Love.Without the turmoil and sorrow and pain that a Twin Soul Relationship carries"
I don`t completely agree here. I think we make different experiences with our soulmates. And yes, some will love us and care for us and show us that higher level of love, as in your case.
But there are also other soulmate connections, which can be extremely painful.

I don`t have enough experiences with Twinsouls, as I think it is really rare if two twinsouls meet; but I also think that both things are possible in such a connection, turmoil and pain as well as peaceful bliss and happiness.
I just think with a Twinsoul the emotions may be a bit more intense than in other relationships.
But as I said I don`t know enough twinsouls to really say something intelligent about it.

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venusdeindia
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posted January 12, 2009 10:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message
quote:
In one, the male is running away from a truly wonderful soul. In another, the female even senses every thought in the male's head but they are separated by nations, religions etc etc.

sssshhhhh

quote:
To think we can only love our twin soul or be truly loved only by our twin soul is preposterous. Sometimes I think Linda Goodman misunderstood the concept of Twin Souls. Souls largely exist in clusters emanating from the OverSoul, incarnating across dimensions and timelines. One twin soul on Earth for every soul on Earth is a very simplistic concept.

I agree, partly.

A Twin soul is the two souls from a single spark with identical personalities, thus sharing the same frequency. Even if you dont have a twin soul you can ask your Oversoul to pair you with a partner who is a close equivalent of a twin soul and have a relationship that is the same in terms of intimacy.

An Other half, is the complement - feminine - masculine - THIS is the sacred sexuality part - yin and yang incarnating in two different bodies , one soul is the right brain and the other the left brain of the same soul. In most cases other halves always come together and get married because they are magnetic unlike a twin soul pair which may not incarnate in the same time period or physical reality at all.

One can ask and attract relationships that are similar by focused intent and being open to giving and receiving that kind of love , trust and intimacy.Not without transforming oneself though , whether intentionally or not.

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darkdreamer
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posted January 12, 2009 10:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Venus de India,

"An Other half, is the complement - feminine - masculine - THIS is the sacred sexuality part - yin and yang incarnating in two different bodies , one soul is the right brain and the other the left brain of the same soul."
So, that Other Half, what would it be? A soulmate? (if it is not the Twinsoul).
And how would you spot it astrologically?
Would there be balance in natal placements and aspects, like one having for example: ASC conjunct Mars, the other ASC conjunct Venus?

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venusdeindia
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posted January 12, 2009 11:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Would there be balance in natal placements and aspects, like one having for example: ASC conjunct Mars, the other ASC conjunct Venus?

well, the terminology for me is what i have used because it fits the meaninf, twin soul is a twin literally, other half is your other half.


as for astrlogy ..in my case my other half and i have spent 6 lives as partners, horrific karma, not everyones cup of tea mind you.


in this life -

I was born on summer solstice 21 june he was bron on 24 december , winter solstice .

I am cancer he is Cappy - My moon opposes his Sun - Same as conjunct.

THAT is the main giveaway of our Yin - Yang connection.

The rest of our aspects DD have come up in all threads until now.Just do a little digging in the past threads and see a patttern if you can.

Apart from that..natally... i will see...

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darkdreamer
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posted January 12, 2009 02:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Venus,

"well, the terminology for me is what i have used because it fits the meaninf, twin soul is a twin literally, other half is your other half."
So does that mean, that you would feel a stronger (romantic / sexual ) attraction to your other Half than you would do to your twinsoul?
The twinsoul would be like a mirror and reflect you? (Funny, I just had to think of how musicman was singing "I am your mirror" during a concert. Don`t know why I had to think of it just now. lol)
And there would be a lot of closeness, intimacy and familiarity with a Twinsoul, but not so much polar attraction, as you are basically the same, whereas the OTHER HALF compliments you? Is the Yin to my Yang so to speak? (Well, I guess with Sun, Mars and ASC in SAg and Moon in Aqua, I`m actually looking for a man with a bit of Yin energy. lol)


"in my case my other half and i have spent 6 lives as partners, horrific karma, not everyones cup of tea mind you."
I remember the one life you told about. But didn`t you spend some nice lives, too?
HAving said that I have been confronted very clearly with a horrific past life dream myself (actually 2 dreams recently and more of them spread over the years)


"I was born on summer solstice 21 june"
Like Prince William.

"I am cancer he is Cappy - My moon opposes his Sun - Same as conjunct.

THAT is the main giveaway of our Yin - Yang connection."
Yes, I can see that. Mainly because a Yin planet connects very strongly with a Yang planet. Twice. With the strongest aspects. WOW!

Do you think oppositions give a hint to the other half?
I used to think that, but just a few months ago I started doubting that, as oppositions connect the same polarity, and I think the other Half would be complimentary.
I then thought, maybe the antiscia`s / mirrordegree would be the better hint, as they combine Yin and Yang.
I`m not sure if you ahve read my thread about it, or are interested in it, but I`d like to know what you think of it.

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darkdreamer
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posted January 12, 2009 02:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message
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