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GemGemGem
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posted January 13, 2009 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone know any friends/relatives/ex's that just seem to be the eternal bachelor? Never wanting to grow up, take responsibility, or commit, most commonly known as Peter Pan syndrome. Can we examine their charts and see if there are any common placements?

There are 2 guys I know, whose birthday happen to be very close together, but are from completely different backgrounds and are in completely different professions. They don't know eachother, but both act like frat boys, and they are almost 40 yrs old.

What in a chart shows immaturity, and the resistence to "growing up"?



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posted January 13, 2009 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Mars in Sagittarius stands out for me!

Mars in Sagittarius produces some of the highest levels of physical energy and enthusiasm. The mental and emotional side seems to function fine as well, but unfortunately, this is not the most practical of Mars positions.

In Sagittarius, Mars often produces strong philosophic convictions. You are one to stand up and fight for any cause you believe in. The sense of justice is very strong. Your idealistic motives always seek to be improving society and those individuals in your immediate environment.
You are an outspoken debater, often lacking diplomacy or appreciation of the opinions of opponents. Nonetheless, your ever-cheerful presence makes you welcome in any social gathering. For you it is unrestricted freedom at all cost, with rhythm and tempo that comes naturally to you. You are a person with a zest for adventure and having a good time. You have trouble sitting still for very long, and you want to be on the move physically.
The hallmark of this position is the feeling that you are invincible. Your irrepressible confidence and optimism usually gets you through tough times. You may have been born under a lucky star. You often succeed because you don't think much about failing. In many respects you are a born gambler.

Mars in Sagittarius is not known for being particularly constant in love relationships. You approach sex as though it was a sport, and it's hard to tie you down to one person. You may be afraid of serious love affairs and being "trapped" in a relationship. This is a position that really likes sex, but at times can be too bold or crude in asking for it.

The negative of this position is a lack of endurance and consistency. Because your attention span is so short, and your interests are so many, you start many projects, but often fail to finish them. And even when you do get finished, the work can be a little sloppy. You have a tendency to scatter your energies and try to take on too much at one time.

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posted January 13, 2009 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
their charts are almost identical!

I see Venus square Uranus and Moon conj Uranus square Venus + 5HR afflicted by Neptune

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posted January 13, 2009 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rusalka     Edit/Delete Message
i know that the main theme of this topic are guys, but i have a female friend who happens to be female version of peter pan, in her 30s, no serious relationships yet, living with her parents, not having a stable career, no intention of settling down, sport adventurer - the curious thing is, her mars is in saggitarius (3rd house, together with neptune and mercury in sag also there)!!!!

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posted January 13, 2009 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
How about they're just regular Aquarian males?

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Lara
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posted January 13, 2009 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
LOL AG

Not many girls are funky or cool enough to keep an Aquarian man, ya know

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posted January 13, 2009 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
The Moon.

One has a T-Square with Moon/Mercury/Saturn. There is a challenge in expressing true feelings somewhere hidden in that configuration.

The other has a Conjunction with Moon/Uranus. They need space. Square Venus.

I know someone born before them who has been in a relationship for nearly 20 years. Different Moon sign and conjunction. Doesn't behave like a Frat boy, but certainly is a person who is very much an individual and likes to do his own thing. But, like AG says, that's an Aqua male being an Aqua male.

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posted January 13, 2009 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
I'm an Aquarius female with Mars in Sagittarius... I've had MANY relationships. I can't think of a time that I've actually been SINGLE (as in without a romantic prospect). I also have Venus square Uranus. Though I don't really want to grow up and take on responsibilities.

Maybe it's my Libran Moon?

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posted January 13, 2009 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for triplecancer     Edit/Delete Message
I would think that saturn conjunct ascendant in taurus would make them responsible and serious people. I guess it's the aquarius sun and venus sq uranus.

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posted January 13, 2009 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message
I have Venus in Aquarius square Uranus & Mars in Sagittarius.
Although I don't want to be in a relationship I consider myself to be responsible & serious.

I don't have the peter pan syndrome at all.

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posted January 13, 2009 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
It seems this is becoming a thread about Aquarians. LOL.

Why do a lot of Aquarians prefer not to commit to relationships? Is it because of the loss of freedom?

I definitely agree with the Sagittarius Mars energy, and Peter Pan syndrome.

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posted January 13, 2009 05:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message
A friend of mine is a true Peter Pan.
40 years old male brit in London - Libra Sun and Venus, Aqua Rising, Aqua Mars, Aqua Node, Scorpio Moon

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posted January 13, 2009 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
GemGemGem

I think Aquarians have the right idea about relationships, mostly... it's just the partners they draw and are drawn to are maybe insecure and can't handle anything less than 24/7 care and love to fill the "needy" void.

It never ceases to amaze me how many people have to be so dependent in relationships.

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posted January 14, 2009 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
There's a real danger here of generalising from a couple of examples based on some basic parts of the chart. A bit more depth of analysis and an attempt at synthesising the different placements and aspects would help.

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posted January 14, 2009 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone have any more charts to post? Those 2 guys happen to be Aquas, so I guess it leads to generalizations. I'll post my ex-husbands chart too, since he is soooo very "Peter Pan" but a Sag. I know a Leo man with PP syndrome but I don't know his exact birth info.

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posted January 14, 2009 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
maybe your "peter pan" is just an immortal...?!

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posted January 14, 2009 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think it's immortality, I think it's immaturity that prevents him from growing up!

I just see it so much, especially in NYC. The guys who just want to play, play, play, and be a little boy forever. Whatever happened to REAL men?

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posted January 15, 2009 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
what, in heaven's name, is a real man?? does he have to be willing to settle down and raise a family? or what??

i pretty much agree with lara, aquarian love which is so often labelled committment shy is really very "advanced" "un-needy" and refreshing. not everyone's first priority is permanent hooking up...or being "there" for you 24/7 - in some cases it is the left-behind who need to do the growing up...

i don't know about nyc anymore though i come from there. most of the men i grew up with there became stolid citizens and family men, though some did not. but city life has so much variety to offer one could excuse a longer "sampling" period IMO..

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posted January 15, 2009 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
The NYC guys I'm talking about are the ones that want their cake and to eat it too. They want the "relationship" held up on the women's end, but they don't want to sacrifice and give up anything on their end. They want to "play" the field, but have that "home base" girlfriend waiting for them when they are done playing for the week. They are unable to fully commit any part of their life to someone because they don't want to share any part of themselves.

This has nothing to do specifically with Aquas, it just happened to be that both those guys were. I'm not quite sure if I agree that an "un-needy" person, or one that does not prioritize "permanent hooking up" can necessarily be called "advanced". I think there are better qualities in a person that would make for an advanced human being such as the strength of their character, or their ability to love.

Personally I think all humans need other people, it's how we are made. It just depends on the extent that a person needs the other. If one can't function without the other, maybe they are of "lesser" advancement and should work on themself a little more, but if the definition of needy is missing a person you love because you haven't seen them for a few days, or wanting to hear the voice of the man you love so you call him to talk, (for no specific reason)or want to spend time together, then i don't think it's necessarily a bad or "lesser" thing. That is how a lot of women are, (We are made to be more emotional than men) and I don't think there is anything wrong with it.

I think a woman can be independent and have her own life, but still want a man to share her life with, and share her love with. Being a "man" has nothing to do with their ability to settle down and have a family. It's about someone who can be willing to "share" part of themselves with you, someone who can love unconditionally, and give instead of expecting you to do all the giving and sharing, with nothing in return.

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posted January 15, 2009 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leapinglemur14     Edit/Delete Message
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posted January 16, 2009 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
I agree that just because you love someone, and want to be with them, does not necessarily mean you have to get married, have the 2 kids, the dog, and the white picket fence. There are so many ways to love eachother and be together. Marriage is not for everyone, and neither are kids.

I think people feel that marriage is the logical next step after being together for a certain amount of time, and conform to that, instead of customizing their relationships to work for them as individuals even if it goes against society.

New York is filled with so many people, and is one of the most exciting cities to be in, but there are times it just gets very lonely. Not because I need someone to fill an empty space in me, but because making real human connections is part of our basic nature. A lot(not all) of the male/female connections that happen here are very superficial. It's like a bunch of people with relationship ADD.
I'm beginning to see my Taurus Venus coming out in this post. LOL.

This post was inspired by witnessing so many men who are just happy with superficial connections, and their unwillingness to open themselves up to the possibility of anything deeper. (It actually freaks them out to the point where they run from it.) I'm a triple Gem, I like and need my space, but I will admit that at the core of my being, I really want any connection I make to have depth and longevity. If that makes me needy, so be it.

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posted January 16, 2009 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leapinglemur14     Edit/Delete Message
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i agree with the moon conj uranus then also uranus in aspect to venus and mars..but when i hear eternal bachelor the sign that comes to mind is always "GEH-MIH-NIGH"

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posted March 03, 2009 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Wellllll....I think it might have something to do with ....

(1) being an Aqu and being independent but even more telling...

(2) The second house, house of values, is both on Gemini with Mercury both in the 10th - prominent and angular

The Saigon born PP has Mars in Aries in the 2nd which Aries is also a young sign but he also has Mercury in the 10th! And surprise, Neptune, ruler or the second is conjunct Mercury in the 10th.

Now I'm not saying Merc in 10th is Peter Pannish but combined with the 2nd house influence it might be...

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Yeah one of my friends is like that. He is an aries sun, scorp moon, taurus venus and aqua mars.

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