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posted January 14, 2009 07:17 AM         

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Where in the chart do you think we can find similarities between people without siblings? What common traits do they have?

Also, what common traits do you think people have that has been brought up without a father figure? (indications in chart?)

All through my life I seem to attract and be attracted to people (both friends and boyfriends) without siblings and often also without a father figure. This is strange to me since I've been brought up in a classic nuclear family and don't have that in common with them. So, what do we have in common? What do we bring out in each other?

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Ascendant: Gemini
Sun: Pisces
Moon: Capricorn
Mercury: Pisces
Venus: Capricorn
Mars: Aquarius

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posted January 14, 2009 08:12 AM         

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ooO this would be curious for me to know too, i have no siblings and also grew up without a father.

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posted January 14, 2009 02:18 PM         

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I have my moon in the 8th house. I was raised without a father figure-something I tend to look for in relationships.

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posted January 14, 2009 02:21 PM           

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I have siblings, an older brother, and a younger step sister.
I had a older sister but she died before I was born.

My father's been absent most of my life and I never really felt I had one.

Sun in the 12th? Moon in the 6th? Venus in the 12th? Mars in the 10th? I have Venus Opposition Saturn (which indicates parents separating).

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posted January 16, 2009 12:19 AM         

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Sun in the eighth and Saturn in the tenth can indicate an absent father figure. Not sure about lack of siblings.

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posted January 16, 2009 01:11 AM           

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My friend has her Saturn in the tenth, and although her father is there, he only acts as a taskmaster. He's strict, and he's obsessed with chores. Her life seems like an endless pile of drills and duties.
When he invited me over for dinner one day, he only talked business. How cold.

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posted January 16, 2009 02:59 AM         

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hmm i don't have these aspects... my Saturn is in the 9th, Sun is the 1st house. in the 10th house i have Pluto and North Node, which are the tip of a Kite formation.

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posted January 21, 2009 03:18 AM           

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what's pluto in the 10th like?

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posted January 21, 2009 03:32 AM         

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I have no siblings. My third house is in Leo with my Sun in Aquarius in the 9th, no real challenging aspects or anything. Maybe because the third ruler is in detriment?

I have 3 Leo Rising friends, they all have Pluto in Scorpio in the 4th and have had tumultous families (or at least it seems that way to them). All have their parents divorced (not that uncommon but still), one because their father became addicted to drugs and is in jail now or something (the mother is remarried now), and another because their father had sex with a 15 year old girl. the last one I guess just broke up normally, but it really bothered him. He's not close to his father at all because his dad has a new family now. All three fathers are semi absent (were there in childhood, but are gone now that these guys are in their 20s).

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posted January 21, 2009 04:08 AM         

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my Pluto is in the 10, conjunct NN. it's opposite my Moon in the 4th. as i mentioned above, i grew up without a father and have no siblings.

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posted January 21, 2009 05:16 AM           

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A girlfriend of mine has Sun opposite saturn (and sun conjunct chiron)in her chart, and her father was never there for her.

She has no siblings either, and her 3rd house is intercepted.

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posted February 01, 2009 02:19 PM         

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what's pluto in the 10th like?

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I have it and it's intense! People look to me as an authority figure even if they're decades older than me. I'm passionate about working towards my career and others can definitely sense that.

I have a no-nonsense approach to work and I won't tolerate people who slack off when it isn't their break. For me, the tenth house pluto represents my mother who is incredibly strong, fearless and dangerous when crossed (She's a Scorpio).

I'm not sure if Pluto in the tenth means "absence of father or siblings." Though, my father left me a long time ago. I still have siblings in life, fortunately.

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posted February 02, 2009 05:37 AM         

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oops Arnicka, looks like i totally ignored your post and repeated myself above?

how it is to have Pluto in the 10th... it can be how Astra describes too sometimes. some people treat me like i'm better than them, which kind of creep me out and i even find it clinging... but it's only some people.

i guess i have a desire to secure a place in public, not as in "being famous" or "being a leader", but more like, i want a place that i can call mine. also, since it's opposite the Moon in the 4th, i have a strong desire to separate myself from my mother who i feel like weighs me down. and maybe because i grew up without him, i avoid asking for my father's help when in need... though we are in contact now. i don't want to rely on him physically or emotionally.

these things may be affected by the fact that this falls on my NN/SN axis.

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posted February 02, 2009 06:31 AM           

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classic indicators for an absent father are either sun or saturn in 12th, leo suns frequently have a psychologically absent father too,pisces suns can show a weakness in the father also but i'd expect to see hard aspects backing it all up

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posted February 02, 2009 05:50 PM         

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Sun in the 8th house for the absent father figure. Not sure about the lack of siblings.

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posted February 02, 2009 09:59 PM         

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but i don't have my Sun in the 8th, it's in the 1st. i have Mars in the 8th though? would that have a similar effect, you think?

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