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posted January 17, 2009 03:22 AM         

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I have a friend that i have this love hate relationship going on. When we hang out one on one I feel like she is a close friend and someone I can trust. I feel respected and like I'm held in high regard like I'm important to her. But as soon as there is a third party involved I feel like the tag along. Pushed aside like I don't really matter. Anything I say is disregarded, I constantly get interrupted or spoken over, it makes me feel like she is two different people. I'm even cautious about bringing a guy I'm dating around her, I have this fear that he's suddenly going to want her and dump me.

I brought this up to her once and she disregarded it and said I shouldn't feel this way, which naturally upset me.

Is there anything in her chart that could bring this behavior out? Or maybe in our synastry? Or is it my own paranoia, am I the problem?

This is our synastry chart

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posted January 17, 2009 03:31 AM         

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At a quick glance I am going to say Mars is revealing here ~ natally you have Sun Square Mars, and on this synastry your Mars is Opposite your friend's Sun. Her Mars is Square your Neptune, she has this aspect natally.

Not much time left to think about this but I think I would be going along the lines that you tend to be straight, upfront, maybe veering into aggression if you feel transgressed. Meanwhile with her Mars/Neptune energies she is less likely to go in for the confrontational style which account for some level of misunderstanding between you.

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posted January 17, 2009 03:42 AM           

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Do you see a Lunra Pattern in the love hate relaitonship? I suspect a behavioural change towards you based on Lunar Phases because there is Moon sq Mercury in Synsatry, even a weak Moon sq Moon. Additionally, you both have nearly the same Lunar Phase in your charts, both born 3-4 days after the new moon.

Her Mars sq Sun exact is a constant source of inner tension and temper. Notice that her Sun conjuncts ALGOL in 26 Taurus. A very deadly placement, she has quite a few negative karmas to be born on Sun conj ALGOL.

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posted January 17, 2009 03:46 AM         

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i understood about half of what you where saying. whats ALGOL?

and she does have a temper. she takes almost anything anybody says offensively and is ready to fly off the handle. I have to watch what I say and my tone of voice around her sometimes to avoid an argument.

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posted January 17, 2009 04:00 AM         

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leapinglemur14, it must be annoying to have this energy with a friend who you consider close.

Iqhunk, i don't want to hijack this thread so i ask you for a little permission beforehand... you know well about fixed stars? in that case may i start a new thread and could you answer my question? it's about the 4 royal stars conjuncting my points. i think it's a big deal but i can't find much information on it.

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posted January 17, 2009 04:04 AM         

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leapinglemur14, algol is a fixed star up in the sky. here's a list of all the fixed stars.
http://www.astrologycom.com/fixedstars.html

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posted January 17, 2009 04:22 AM           

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Please go right ahead Lechien. What I know about fixed stars is very controversial, next to impossible to prove, but it is the conclusion from consistent observations of many people conventionally regarded as wacko but whose theories were successfully tested by me and several others.

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posted January 17, 2009 05:47 AM         

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It can be as you said.

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posted January 17, 2009 06:32 AM         

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oops

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posted January 17, 2009 06:35 AM         

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oops ?

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posted January 17, 2009 07:20 AM         

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i just made a wrong post.

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posted January 17, 2009 09:40 AM           

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Leaping,

I think there may be several explanations for what you are feeling.

First of all she has a lot of gemini in her chart, including moon in gemini in her first house. So she might really be a different personality at any given moment or with different people. I have gemini moon friends and they do change their image quite easily depending on whose around. So that's one thing, she might just be a very changeable person which isnt good or bad and has nothing to do with your friendship.

Looking at your synastry there might also be reasons for your feelings. You both put your mars in each others 12th house. I have that with a (close) friends and from time to time I do feel like I dont really know her motives or just dont understand her actions. That's mars in someone's 12th house - I also had this with a man in synastry and I was always suspicious of him when we were with other people....suspecting he is talking about me behind my back. And on top of that, it seems like you have a venus-saturn opposition as DOUBLE whammy!! Again, I have that with someone in synastry and one always somehow feels like the other person doesnt (really) like you etc. Venu-saturn opposition can easily make you feel undervalued.

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posted January 17, 2009 01:35 PM         

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what did you do then? do you still talk to your ex? are you and your friend close?
I'm really torn at this and i feel like im obligated to stay her friend, like i can't pull away. I guess that's the venus-saturn there. But it can really suck all my energy out of me. I just don't know if it's worth it anymore.

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posted January 17, 2009 02:05 PM           

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With the guy a relationship never materialized, i think there was just too much distrust (on both sides) and venus-saturn can be an incredable block to things ever getting of the ground (at least when you have a venus-saturn opposition as double whammy.

And with my friend - the relationship has always been like this and we have great moments and I respect her and really enjoy our conversations. But I have other friends where I can let go completely,emotionally. With her it isnt such an emotional connection. It comes down to not having everything fulfilled in one single friendship, but having different friends for different things.

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posted January 17, 2009 02:12 PM         

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hmm i see what you mean...i just wish she would listen to me sometimes! lol..her stupid ego is going to ruin things for her...

if anyone has any other input involving the charts that would be cool

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posted January 18, 2009 10:29 AM         

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You are better then me when it comes to chart, so not me in this case.

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