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yuting
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posted January 18, 2009 10:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Need advice.

Which is more preferable?
More harmonious Synastry, less harmonious composite, or
Less harmonious Synastry, more harmonious composite?

What will be the difference between the two relationship patterns?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Yu Ting

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emma_duncan
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posted January 18, 2009 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
i prefer synastry,...makes more logical sense,,,and this will show how two ppl react to each other

anyway composite may show in wht area these reactions will be focused....

so good synastry bad composite might show that though these ppl have good potential they somehow when together create tension....

anyway if u will be more specifc only then any meaningful answer can be given,,,,,cause its kin a hard to imagine how sun trine moon in synastry will turn into sun squre moon in composite,....i am not v clear with yr interpretation of good and bad charts,,,,how have u reached that conclusion?

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leapinglemur14
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posted January 18, 2009 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leapinglemur14     Edit/Delete Message
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MyVirgoMask
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posted January 18, 2009 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
LMAO Leaping

I personally prefer synastry, composite feels like it plays out over time with a couple, once they're established.

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emma_duncan
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posted January 18, 2009 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
whts funny? i want to laugh too

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posted January 18, 2009 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
She had a thread about exactly the same question not so long ago, with very similar wording...dejavu lol

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posted January 18, 2009 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
ahaaaaa

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posted January 18, 2009 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
Prefer harmonious Composite if the synastry has lots of tense aspects. This generally means that you two will work it out.

Good synastry and a crappy Composite is not so good.

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yuting
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posted January 19, 2009 01:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Thank you all for your input.

On whether synastry or composite is a better tool, I can see quite a few would see more rationale in using synastry. I tend to feel like I should look at both because so far I've seen quite on the spot readings using both tools.

As a Chinese, I also like Chinese astrology. I believe essentially all astrological studies have statistical basis. We might not understand why certain aspects/interactions of the stars imply certain things, but by statistics, certain aspects/interactions lead to certain patterns of relating most of the time. To me, that is enough support for using a particular tool/method.

On synastry/composite, I am sure I am such an amateur in doing readings that my idea of what charts are harmonious/disharmonious could be way off. Nevertheless, I wonder if in the case there are really two couples one with good harmony in the synastry and scattered/less harmonious composite and the other opposite, whether the first couple will hit it off from the start, feeling really comfortable with each other, but over time find the relationship boring, somewhat stagnant or mildly irritating. And for the second couple, assuming they somehow get started, will get some fireworks, get on each other's nerves and have plenty of adjustments to make, but eventually they can work out what they want (purpose) and find their own way to deal with the disharmonies.

Anyone has any observations on this?

I do have 2 sets of charts among 3 people (ie a triangular relationship) in mind when I ask my original question. So let me know if anyone is interested in given some insights on interpreting the charts. If yes, I'll post the charts/aspects.

Cheers,
Yu Ting

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yuting
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posted January 19, 2009 02:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Here are the two sets: (I am providing the birth info in case you have software to do the charts as I cannot post charts here, only the textual info). One man and two women.

Orbs observed:con/opp < 7, sq/trine <5, sextile<3

The first pair:
Female
hong kong, CHINA
Nov 30 1972
12:20:00 PM AWST

Male
hong kong, CHINA
Oct 20 1970
6:15:00 AM AWST

Synastry aspects:
Sun is Sextile Uranus Orb 2` 12'
Sun is Trine Chiron Orb 0` 47'
Moon is Square Moon Orb 4` 58'
Moon is Conjunct Mars Orb 6` 31'
Moon is Conjunct Uranus Orb 4` 05'
Moon is Opposite Chiron Orb 1` 06'
Mercury is Conjunct Venus Orb 3` 51'
Mercury is Sextile Mars Orb 0` 37'
Mercury is Conjunct Neptune Orb 0` 20'
Mercury is Sextile Pluto Orb 0` 46'
Mercury is Square N. Node Orb 0` 47'
Venus is Conjunct Jupiter Orb 5` 06'
Mars is Conjunct Jupiter Orb 2` 34'
Jupiter is Sextile Jupiter Orb 1` 22'
Jupiter is Square Uranus Orb 0` 24'
Jupiter is Square Chiron Orb 3` 23'
Saturn is Trine Mercury Orb 3` 08'
Uranus is Conjunct Sun Orb 4` 33'
Uranus is Conjunct Mercury Orb 0` 36'
Uranus is Conjunct Ascendant Orb 2` 15'
Uranus is Square Midheaven Orb 2` 25'
Neptune is Trine Chiron Orb 2` 11'
Pluto is Square Moon Orb 2` 49'
Pluto is Conjunct Mars Orb 4` 22'
Pluto is Opposite Chiron Orb 3` 15'
N. Node is Square Mercury Orb 2` 02'
N. Node is Trine Saturn Orb 1` 59'
N. Node is Square Ascendant Orb 4` 53'
N. Node is Opposite Midheaven Orb 5` 03'
Ascendant is Trine Moon Orb 0` 34'
Ascendant is Square Neptune Orb 2` 24'
Ascendant is Conjunct N. Node Orb 1` 57'
Midheaven is Sextile Uranus Orb 0` 20'
Midheaven is Trine Chiron Orb 2` 39'
Chiron is Opposite Uranus Orb 2` 52'
Chiron is Conjunct Chiron Orb 5` 50'
Node is Opposite Vertex Orb 0` 19'

Man's planets in Woman's house:
3H - Saturn
4H - Moon
5H - MC
7H - Mars, Pluto
8H - Sun, Asc, Mer, Ura, Jup
9H - Ven, Nep

Woman's planets in man's house:
1H - Ven, Mars
2H - Sun, Mer, Nep, MC
3H - Jup
5H - Asc
8H - Sat
12H - Moon, Ura, Plu

Composite:
Sun is Square Moon Orb 1` 36'
Sun is Conjunct Venus Orb 1` 01'
Moon is Square Venus Orb 2` 38'
Moon is Sextile Mars Orb 0` 52'
Moon is Sextile Uranus Orb 2` 47'
Mercury is Square N. Node Orb 0` 38'
Mars is Conjunct Uranus Orb 3` 39'
Jupiter is Sextile N. Node Orb 1` 58'
Jupiter is Trine Chiron Orb 1` 09'
Saturn is Opposite Neptune Orb 2` 08'
Saturn is Trine Pluto Orb 3` 12'
Saturn is Trine Midheaven Orb 2` 25'
Uranus is Opposite Chiron Orb 5` 43'
Neptune is Sextile Pluto Orb 1` 05'
Neptune is Sextile Midheaven Orb 0` 17'
Pluto is Square Ascendant Orb 3` 22'
Pluto is Conjunct Midheaven Orb 0` 48'
N. Node is Sextile Chiron Orb 0` 49'
Midheaven is Square Ascendant Orb 4` 10'

Composite Houses:
6H - Sat
8H - Moon
9H - Plu
10H - Ura, Mars
11H - Sun, Mer, Ven
12H - Jup, Nep

The second pair to come. Needs to do some formatting first. Takes time

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yuting
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posted January 19, 2009 02:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message
This is the second pair:

Female:
hong kong, CHINA
Aug 11 1971
12:57:00 AM AWDT

Male:
Hong Kong, CHINA
Oct 20 1970
6:15:00 AM AWST

Synastry aspects:
Sun is Sextile Mercury Orb 3` 36'
Sun is Square Saturn Orb 3` 33'
Moon is Opposite Uranus Orb 0` 10'
Moon is Conjunct Chiron Orb 2` 49'
Mercury is Sextile Jupiter Orb 1` 40'
Venus is Square Jupiter Orb 0` 38'
Venus is Sextile Uranus Orb 2` 24'
Mars is Trine Mercury Orb 4` 04'
Mars is Square Jupiter Orb 4` 53'
Mars is Square Saturn Orb 4` 00'
Jupiter is Conjunct Venus Orb 1` 49'
Jupiter is Sextile Mars Orb 2` 38'
Jupiter is Conjunct Neptune Orb 2` 21'
Jupiter is Sextile Pluto Orb 1` 16'
Jupiter is Square N. Node Orb 2` 48'
Jupiter is Trine Midheaven Orb 3` 03'
Saturn is Opposite Neptune Orb 5` 47'
Saturn is Sextile Chiron Orb 2` 07'
Uranus is Conjunct Uranus Orb 0` 25'
Uranus is Opposite Chiron Orb 3` 23'
Neptune is Conjunct Venus Orb 5` 06'
Neptune is Sextile Mars Orb 0` 38'
Neptune is Square N. Node Orb 0` 29'
Pluto is Square Moon Orb 3` 11'
Pluto is Sextile Venus Orb 2` 49'
Pluto is Conjunct Mars Orb 1` 39'
Pluto is Sextile Neptune Orb 1` 22'
N. Node is Square Jupiter Orb 2` 12'
N. Node is Trine Uranus Orb 3` 58'
Ascendant is Opposite Venus Orb 3` 08'
Ascendant is Conjunct Saturn Orb 1` 10'
Ascendant is Sextile Midheaven Orb 1` 54'
Midheaven is Square Jupiter Orb 2` 35'
Midheaven is Trine Uranus Orb 0` 49'
Midheaven is Sextile Chiron Orb 2` 09'
Chiron is Opposite Uranus Orb 3` 21'

Man's planets in Woman's houses:
2H - Moon
3H - MC
5H - Mars, Ura, Plu
6H - Sun, Asc, Mer, Jup
7H - Ven, Nep
12H - Sat

Woman's planets in Man's houses:
2H - Jup, Nep
4H - MC, Mars
6H - Moon
7H - Asc
8H - Sat
10H - Sun, Ven
11H - Mer
12H - Ura, Plu

Composite aspects:
Sun is Trine Moon Orb 1` 05'
Sun is Sextile Jupiter Orb 2` 13'
Sun is Conjunct Pluto Orb 6` 25'
Moon is Opposite Jupiter Orb 1` 07'
Moon is Square N. Node Orb 2` 12'
Mercury is Conjunct Venus Orb 3` 16'
Mercury is Trine Saturn Orb 2` 37'
Mercury is Sextile Neptune Orb 0` 49'
Mercury is Conjunct Pluto Orb 2` 30'
Venus is Conjunct Pluto Orb 5` 47'
Mars is Sextile Uranus Orb 2` 11'
Mars is Trine Ascendant Orb 0` 20'
Mars is Trine Chiron Orb 2` 10'
Jupiter is Square N. Node Orb 3` 20'
Saturn is Opposite Neptune Orb 1` 48'
Saturn is Trine Pluto Orb 0` 07'
Uranus is Sextile Ascendant Orb 2` 31'
Uranus is Opposite Chiron Orb 0` 01'
Neptune is Sextile Pluto Orb 1` 41'
Chiron is Trine Ascendant Orb 2` 30'

Composite Houses:
2H - sun, Mer, Plu
3H - Ven, Ura
4H - Jup, Nep
5H - Mars
10H - Moon, Sat

Feel free to give your interpretations. I have plenty to learn

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yuting
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posted January 19, 2009 03:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Oh, for second pair, missed these couple of vertex aspects (dont know if useful or not):
Vertex is Conjunct Asc Orb 1` 52'
Vertex is Conjunct Sun Orb 4` 08'


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posted January 19, 2009 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
dog and rat
pig and rat

can you post a chart for the rest please?

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yuting
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posted January 19, 2009 08:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Actually, the first pair is Water Rat with Metal Dog. The second pair is Metal Pig with Metal Dog.

This type of chinese astrology is called Bazi (literal meaning is "8 characters"). Each person can be described by 8 characters, 2 each for the year, the month, the day and the 2-hr interval in which a person is born, arranged in 4 columns from left to right.

The first character of each column is the elemental nature, ie Metal, Wood, Water, Fire or Earth (with a yin type and a yang type for each, totally 10 different elemental natures).

The second character of each column is one of the 12 Chinese animal signs (which on each of its own has its own elemental nature(s), eg Rat is essentially water, Pig is water primary and wood secondary).

A person's primary element is governed by the first character of the 3rd column, which is derived from the birth day. But the strongest elemental nature affecting the person is from the primary element of the 2nd character of the 2nd column (month born, because the month indicates the climatic condition of that time).

Interpretation is done with evaluating the balance of elements, esp the harmony of these elements with the person's primary element, with certain combinations of characters having special interpretations.

Like astrology, a bazi that is too harmonious usually means this is a very "normal" person, with a "normal" life, ie non-memorable person with boring but safe life. Most super rich and colorful people have quite unbalanced bazi.

Hopefully, you find this interesting.

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yuting
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posted January 21, 2009 09:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Just wondering if there are any more advice on interpreting the two sets of charts, esp the synastry vs composite aspects.

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