posted January 21, 2009 05:56 AM              

Do you have any experience with this? I'm asking cause the guy I like and I have this. My Saturn in his 8th house, opposing his moon. The same man had a previous relationship with a woman that loved him dearly but he ended it, leaving the woman heartbroken. He moved on, she has not (even if it happened years ago). Her Saturn was in his 8th house like mine in conjunction with his own Saturn but it was her moon that squared both their Saturns.

posted January 21, 2009 10:08 AM            

Are you two close in age?

posted January 21, 2009 10:18 AM            

Consider the meaning of Saturn in the 8th House on it's own, whether natal or synastry. When I think about it I feel right controls, feeling that other's have no value (how does he treat other people? What does he think of them?), what is his relationship like with his father (if there's any way for you to know, check it out?).

I'm assuming that if his Saturn is in his 8th House opposing his Moon, then his Moon is in the 2nd House of Self-Worth. When you've got an aspect like Saturn opposite the Moon spanning the 2nd House/8th House Axis of the house system, you've got someone who has a legacy of low self-worth which can then translate to how he treats others, as if they have low self-worth.

Now this is all speculation on my part, but then that's my job as an astrologer. About the death stuff, I believe only God makes that decision, but it can translate to debt (no value or under value), taxes, not enjoying sex on some level whether it's not being able to have sex or not enough sex or no opportunity for it, many different levels.

posted January 21, 2009 01:10 PM              

Geo valentine I think I got you confused. His Saturn doesn't oppose his Moon, my Saturn does. His Saturn is in 0 degree in Virgo, his Moon is in 22 deg. Pisces (along with my own Moon btw 21 deg Pisces), while my Saturn is in 23 deg. Virgo. His Moon is at the end of his second house. Here's his chart, so you can see it for yourself. http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3250/himsj5.gif

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Consider the meaning of Saturn in the 8th House on it's own, whether natal or synastry. When I think about it I feel right controls, feeling that other's have no value (how does he treat other people? What does he think of them?), what is his relationship like with his father (if there's any way for you to know, check it out?).

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As you already know, I do well for my Scorpio reputation, so I always know things am not suppose to about the objects of my obsessions. No really, for this one I'm completely innocent. The information just comes and finds me. People who know him just tell me things about him out of the blue. I never mention him, never ask anything about him. No one even knows I think of him that way. I believe most people would be shocked to find out about my little infatuation.

I know firsthand he's quite the snob, so I guess he doesn't think highly of others. He's very materialistic, he values expensive things and people with power and money. His friends, his social life is about all that stuff. Expensive clothes, glam parties, vacations that others only dream of. He's not that rich really, but he finds a way to live this lifestyle. About his dad, I know for a fact that when he was younger he blamed his unfaithfulness for the unhappiness and coldness of his mother . Apparently when he got older, he changed his point of view and blamed his father's infidelity to his mother's indifference.

posted January 21, 2009 06:55 PM            

In fact, this would be at least my third relationship where my Saturn has fallen into another's 8th house and my second where my Saturn has conjuncted another's Vertex in their 8th.

One of those relationships lasted 7 years and it did end badly although we managed to stay friends for a while and now we're just 'friendly'. He was the one who broke up with me, however. And my Saturn conjuncted his Mercury and Venus, although the Venus conjunction was a 9 degree orb.

In the second former relationship it only lasted 6 months and although the break up was mutual, it's hard to say who was more devastated. My Saturn also squared his Sun with a 7 degree orb and sextiled his Venus exactly.

posted January 21, 2009 10:24 PM            

I have a lot of Pluto in my chart so the intensity of the 8th house is my version of normal

posted January 22, 2009 01:34 AM            

Don't want to highjack this thread but I'm curious: Any married couples with Saturn square Chiron in your synastry research?

posted August 07, 2018 03:34 PM            

I would reckon Pluto/Mars interacting with Moon/Venus would indicate an ugly breakup.

I always think that people who come to resent each other deeply, must have loved each other deeply.

Perhaps they held each other to unrealistic standards and so when the partner could not cut it. There was an immediate sense of being disappointed and let down.

The ugliest breakup to date(and am usually quite peaceful close to the end) was with someone whom had Saturn/Pluto on my Moon by square.

I resented him so much and told him to f*** off and pretend we never knew each other. Reason? He and a very good friend of mine were hooking up throughout my relationship with him.

posted August 07, 2018 05:10 PM            

NO single interaspect or synastry placement, no matter how undesirable, determines relational outcomes, that it will or must end "badly." WE are the ones working with those energies, consciously or unconsciously, and it is we who determine or co-create the outcome with the other person. Planetary placements can no more 'happen to us' than our own subconscious happens to us.

But a certain number of people will stay stuck in using astrology to explain what was totally under their own control: how we treat others, furthering the notion that astrology or the planets somehow 'happen to us'. We use the energies well or not. We behave admirably or not.

We can use astrology to inform ourselves and take on the challenge of creating peace and harmony in a relationship, and learning the lessons therein, or just say, "Oh, well, guess it had to end ugly with that placement." Thus, we undermine our own power and responsibility, remaining unenlightened.

This belongs in Interpersonal Synastry. Moving it there.

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