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FistOfLegend
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posted January 23, 2009 09:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I think she was talking about Sun and Jupiter.
If I wanted to know the timing of events, I'd have to go to the significators, the Sun and Jupiter (ruler of the fifth house- love). They're seven-eight degrees away from exact conjunction. Since the Sun is cardinal and in a cadent house, time is in months (7-8 months).
But you see, Jupiter is a different story. It's in a fixed sign and fixed house: years.
So that's where she and I are confused. Hmm.

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FistOfLegend
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posted January 23, 2009 09:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Oh, and here's the informative site I learned this from: http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/horary_astrology.htm

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FistOfLegend
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posted January 23, 2009 09:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Then again, when I asked a friend for an interpretation, she said the Moon conjuncts Saturn and is found in the second house.
Well the second house is supposed to represent the near future, right?
Very mixed reviews here. Someday I'll sit down and study horary completely.

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leapinglemur14
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posted January 23, 2009 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leapinglemur14     Edit/Delete Message
then you'll teach me?

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MyVirgoMask
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posted January 23, 2009 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Fist, I talked to my horary friend - he's getting moved and won't be able to do the interpretation for a whole week. Sorry

I'm posting you tarot reading right now. Let me know if it makes sense or is completely off, please. And if there are additional questions.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted January 23, 2009 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
DELETE:

Ok, I wanted to take this down because it felt funny for others to see it before you. So let me know when you're on again, Fist, and I'll paste up the read .

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ErickaF
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posted January 24, 2009 12:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message
FOL...I just had to reply because either you are really deperate to find love or you really want to learn horary:-).
I am a romantic too, I completely understand.
To find love I would look at transits, or your progressed chart. Look at those first.

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leapinglemur14
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posted January 24, 2009 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for leapinglemur14     Edit/Delete Message
hell im not Fisty and i felt that rang true.

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FistOfLegend
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posted January 24, 2009 09:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Or solar return. I've looked at all those.
I'm not desperate, but I do want to know the situation. I'm talking about love, real love. Not crushes, infatuations, stalkers, etc.

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FistOfLegend
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posted January 24, 2009 09:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I'm ready to read it.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted January 24, 2009 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Fist

Okay, so I am extremely limited here in what I'm seeing. I only work with first names, so it's hard to get a vibe to start, but I tried my best and soooo this is what I've gotten. I just did a layout to look over the entire love situation, and try and answer some of your questions. Here's what I got:

Presently: You're looking for love, but also it looks like you're looking for things to be more simple, because currently they are not, emotionally. It feels like a lot of hard work internally, in some way. You're showing as frustrated, wanting to be open, but also closed. You retreat into a closed state a lot, maybe sometimes without realizing. So, in a way, it looks like you're at odds with yourself and what you want. Part of you wants one thing, but is reacting to the subject in another way.
I feel there was a relationship in the past, one in particular, that made you happy. I don't know much about it. I just see that it was rather intense and somehow took you 'out of your head'. But I'm also seeing that you have a distinct tendency to overthink things and get on the defensive in love, and sometimes you do it without realizing. So, when you're open, you always wonder how long can I be in this state, and then you shut again very strongly. It feels like the break was pretty bad. You don't get into a lot of relationships, and you don't often take big chances in love. It's not your style.
I do feel this person you were with cared a great deal, but I also feel that she was at times closed off as well. She still thinks about you. I feel you two were a lot alike but essentially very different. I daresay she was even more closed off than you, and this created problems.
There's another who does think about you as well, but she's looking less of the serious type, and very sweet. I don't know, not getting much on her, only that she wished you were more open with her in the past.
So there's *2* people when I look who view you in a loving way still. One still holds a grudge though (and boy can she ever) and can be extremely prideful, the other feels like she wants forgiveness or something. Odd. I want to say her energy feels younger in some way.

Anyway - as for relationships. I keep sensing that the next relationship will be someone who you befriend first. I'm not getting that you're the type to jump into relationships. I see that you build the thing in stages. And sometimes when a certain stage doesn't go well, you end up having severe doubts and even thinking of scrapping the whole thing since it's just not adding up to the big picture you had in mind.So you end up testing people a lot, sometimes without them knowing it
I get 6 months for the next relationship coming in, and I get it starting very oddly. It's a friendship that is built in small stages and you seem to approve of - thing is, you are looking very hesitant, but this person is looking very excited LOL. So the pacing is going to be strange. You'll somehow being asked to relax your defenses with this person though, because she is very trustworthy. She's not your average type. She's different. Something about her just seems very ... Aquarian LOL. Not saying she is, but it's more of an eccentricity. And she's very forthright as well, sometimes brutally honest. I think you will like this, and maybe even be taken aback by it. But you will eventully approve.
I see that someone else from the past will try to contact you around this time. I don't know why. It seems like it though.
All you really need to remember here is to stop overthinking things, because you'll find yourself thinking into the realm of stupid. Sometimes a thing is really how it looks, no more, no less.
So, there's a degree of simplicity here which is revealed in this new relationship, which I find is going to be really healing on a lot of levels as well. And it does feel long-term, though it's being built in tiny stages.
Hope this makes sense. If I'm completely off, I am sorry...I tried

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FistOfLegend
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posted January 24, 2009 12:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message
It's funny. You could have told me I was a fun, flamboyant party animal that resembles a monkey. Instead you told me I was cautious, SLOW, steady, and testing when it comes to love. And darn you're right.
I don't waste time in the realms of the heart. I'm very serious, and I think it puts people off.
You mentioned I had a serious relationship before that somehow broke off and left me in a bad state. I think you're talking about a friendship I once had. We were tight, like brothers, but the butthead walked out and......yeah. Not fun. Years later I confronted him about it and injected a whole lot of guilt into him. If that's him you're talking about, I guess it worked.
I'd probably be a good war buddy, defending and battling for my friends, but once I get into a relationship with you, you're mine. There is now way out.
It's funny you mention a future Aquarian relationship. I recently met this girl with Venus and Mars conjunct Uranus. When I finally asked her a question, all I heard was, "Meow, meow, meow."
Very strange, but I had to laugh.
So I'm going to listen to your directions. Don't overthink, don't be so cautious, take it for what it is. That's good stuff. I wish someone would beat that into me.
Thanks a lot MVM. You've got heart.


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leapinglemur14
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posted January 24, 2009 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leapinglemur14     Edit/Delete Message
hahaha. I just had this mental image of Fisty being a spider and trapping people on his web.

I had a friend do that to me once. When i confronted her about it, man i had never felt worse about myself in my entire life.....

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted January 24, 2009 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah!! That was fabulous, MVM!!

And why am I only seeing your Tarot Card talent NOW!!! It's funny to me, I wonder why people who are great psychics or great at Tarot or both even bother with astrology. You are really good.

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FistOfLegend
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posted January 24, 2009 12:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Leapinglemur, I feel ya. The confrontation I had with him was one of the most tense things in my life. I wanted to punch him rather than tell him, word-by-word, how I felt. It was aggravating.

You know, MVM, I decided to print that whole thing out. That'll be my review sheet for the day. I'll be reading that at the train station, on the toilet, wherever.
How exactly did you gather that information? Not by intuition only, I believe. By cards? By an internet system?
I want all those powers transferred to my brain.

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Lara
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posted January 24, 2009 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
When you stop looking and focus on yourself instead

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MyVirgoMask
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posted January 24, 2009 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Gosh thank you guys
Thanks, Geocosmic
I don't like to think of myself as psychic because it's very inconsistent with me. But I think I can be empathic. Still, sometimes I connect, and sometimes not at all.

Fist, LMAO at meow meow meow. heheh
I wish I can take my own advice most of the time...easier said than done, etc., right?
I was getting weird inconsistencies with what I was seeing. You were asking about love, so I was thinking girl, but of course good friends can be included...duh.

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FistOfLegend
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posted January 24, 2009 03:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I thought about your words on my walk today, and I resonated a lot with what you said. Pushing down my feelings, never letting anyone know I like them, and being a pretty tough nut to crack. Likewise, I get the same reactions.
No one ever tells me when they're attracted to me. They can on for years, daydreaming about me, fantasizing, maybe even building a shrine in my name. Haha. I won't even notice. Then one LUCKY day, they spill their beans and reveal their feelings for me. This has happened more than once. Quite too many times.
This sort of makes me insecure, never knowing what's going on. Who thinks what, and how do they feel? But I guess this is what I'm giving out, like you mentioned on another thread. I can't blame others for their behavior when I should be looking at mine.
It's hard to break your tendencies, you know. It's very, very hard.
Can you tell me how you got that info, though? I'd one day like to depend on myself for knowledge, instead of asking you.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted January 24, 2009 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Fist, don't worry about it too much.
The whole approachability thing that keeps people at arm's length is hard in general I think.
It's hard to relax boundaries.
I had about 5-6 years of being called 'ice queen' and had a lot of people tell me I was unapproachable and it kinda broke my heart, because the thing for me at least was trust, I just didn't trust anyone. Now I give everyone the same level of trust upfront pretty much. It's up to them what they do with it; either earn more or get it taken away. You either hang yourself with the rope I give you, or climb out of a hole. You choose.
It sounds kinda basic but it didn't feel easy to learn (ok, so maybe I'm slow )
But damn do I learn the hard way LOL

Btw- how did I get what info specifically?

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FistOfLegend
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posted January 24, 2009 07:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message
How did you get that whole analysis? THAT is what I want to learn.
And I'm so glad I caught you here.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted January 24, 2009 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
You mean the analysis of the emotional pattern?
If that's what you mean...I don't know how at all, I feel like I can read into it sometimes. I just see a pattern, or a tendency toward that. It's kind of part of my job, maybe that's it.
I'm trying to narrow it down to see how...hmmm...gotta think about that one.
It's like an energy thing or something, I have no idea.

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FistOfLegend
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posted January 24, 2009 08:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Are you saying you could feel my energy transferred through the computer?
There's no way you could have known all that by chatting with me online.

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Lara
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posted January 24, 2009 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Fisty, did you see my posty?

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FistOfLegend
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posted January 24, 2009 08:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message
What, to focus on myself?

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MyVirgoMask
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posted January 24, 2009 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
LOL. I don't know how, Fist. I do it all the time online. With my online job, my clients text me in a box and I read for them according to what energy I get from their first name alone. If they want a reading about someone they are with, they give me the other person's first name too, and I tell them how the relationship is going and what the other person's going through.
Sometimes I connect when I 'look', other times I don't. If I can't get a connection, I just let them know and refer them elsewhere.
I don't use tarot alone, I just go by what I get. Tarot helps a lot though, and spells out the situation.
Maybe it's because I've gotten pretty used to reading online for the past few years. It's often harder to read in person.

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