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Knowflake

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posted January 22, 2009 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message
I have a few questions about a specific composite chart, but if anyone has questions or comments about their own composite feel free to ask them here.

I have a few aspects which I have never before encountered in a composite:

1) Composite Neptune (in the 10th/Sagg) conjunct the MC (how would Neptune affect the couple in this placement, esp. in this case as Ascendant is in Pisces?)

2) Neptune (10th) and Pluto (7th/Libra) forming a yod with the apex point being Jupiter in the 2nd (which widely conjuncts Venus in the 3rd/Taurus)

3) Jupiter is also exactly (almost to the minute) conjunct composite South Node

To me, this is a very clear aspect pattern although one I have never encountered in my own composites. And since I work far more with synastry, I am curious to hear what interpretations people might have.

Thanks!

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posted January 22, 2009 04:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message
<<1) Composite Neptune (in the 10th/Sagg) conjunct the MC (how would Neptune affect the couple in this placement, esp. in this case as Ascendant is in Pisces?) >>
Dreamy love, the couple will feel each other's soul-connection. Any secret between the couple will be revealed through dreams.

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2) Neptune (10th) and Pluto (7th/Libra) forming a yod with the apex point being Jupiter in the 2nd (which widely conjuncts Venus in the 3rd/Taurus)
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Expand together by living life to the fullest and be willing to undergo harmonious transformational changes [they will occur anyway]

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3) Jupiter is also exactly (almost to the minute) conjunct composite South Node
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Give up the mistakes of the past and use Jovian wisdom to identify these past mistakes and grow towards the North Node principles.

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Knowflake

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posted January 22, 2009 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks IQ! Muchly appreciated.

I have to say, it's the nicest composite I think I've ever had with someone. The synastry seems a bit challenging, but the composite is super-dreamy for the most part. I can't ever remember having a yod in a composite before.

Would planets conjuncting a composite South Node also indicate specific past life connections? Or would you ignore those types of conjunction/past life meanings when using mid points?

*Edit* Also, I've noticed when looking at this composite as well as those of friends recently, that there are quite a few 3rd house stelliums. This seems like an excellent location in terms of communication. I wonder if it makes for a more friend-like relationship than if you had a 5th house stellium...? Or are aspects more important in defining that?

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posted January 24, 2009 04:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Yes, the South Node will show prominent past life connections, just like Saturn and Asteroid Karma. I wont ignore them in a midpoint composite.

We need to see all aspects before deciding what kind of communication the 3rd House stellium would enhance. 3rd + 5th = Romantic and Joyful/Adventurous Communication, 3rd + 11th = Very friendly and social communication.

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posted January 24, 2009 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
IQ

In that case, how do you translate Saturn conjunct SN in synastry?

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Lara
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posted January 24, 2009 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
and also pluto conjunct SN please IQ?

EDIT
composite please

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posted January 24, 2009 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nyah     Edit/Delete Message
...what about this in composite:
AC conj True Node and DC conj South Node?

AC 6°14'51 Leo, True Node 6°19'08 Leo
DC 6°14'51 Aqua, South Node 6°19'08 Aqua

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posted January 24, 2009 05:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message
From my experience:
Saturn conj SN will reinforce that which holds you down. It is fated, and is designed to make you learn the lessons of several lifelines in one shot. A Saturn Person conj SN in Cancer for instance will create fears of poverty and security in you such that you may actually become bankrupt [using Law of Attraction, if you focus on poverty, you will attract it.] Only when one has nothing to lose will one change for sure, which is why there are several rags to riches stories. Opposing Saturn's fears and focusing on your NN will elevate your life.

SN conj Pluto shows your controller in past lifelines. Who tried to decide your life for you in the past? What factors relating to the Pluto Person prevented your core spiritual transformation in the past?

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Knowflake

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posted January 24, 2009 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message
PA ~

This is about composite charts but this is one interpretation for synastry: "Saturn conjunct SN: it might be that the South Node person asks too much of Saturn and they end up blocking each other. This is a frustrating aspect, but it can work favorably if the Saturn person is the guide or adviser of the SN. These two people have many lessons to teach each other about their past lives together and, more than anything, they should not limit each other in any way. The house Saturn rules will show how he/she can help SN."

Lara ~ not sure if you're looking for synastry info as well or composite, but this synastry link might give an idea of how the planet would affect the couple/relationship on the whole.

You can see the other planets referenced here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/002849-2.html

IQ ~ 3rd + 5th = Romantic and Joyful/Adventurous Communication" <--- This is what we have actually, for the most part. Best communication in my life with a man thus far!

Valentine is also exactly conjunct our comp Ascendant and Juno and Vertex are conjunct the Descendant. Pluto's in the 7th and NN/Uranus in the 8th.

Since Valentine is on the Ascendant, would we just appear as a couple very much in love? Or would it permeate the relationship on a deeper level? Valentine/AC does trine Moon and NN...

Seeing as the synastry between us is a little more challenging, would I understand this to mean that although we have challenges between us as individuals, our relationship, on the whole, would be a mostly romantic/joyful adventure?

I also wondered that since we have Jupiter (widely conjunct Venus) on our South Node. It seems possible too that we already learned that lesson in another life. We are very jovial around one another. Ha! In fact, sometimes we're too sweet!


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posted January 24, 2009 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks LOVE
it was composite but interesting thread!

Thanks IQ
so SN conjunct moon would be emotional past life or sacrifice?
and SN conjunct jupiter would be a beneficial pas life?

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posted January 24, 2009 05:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message
<<Since Valentine is on the Ascendant, would we just appear as a couple very much in love? Or would it permeate the relationship on a deeper level? Valentine/AC does trine Moon and NN... >>
Valentine conj Asc trine NN and Moon is a Lottery Jackpot Aspect for happiness. This is one of the best Soul Mate aspects. You will also find a strong Juno, Union or Karma aspect, pls check.

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posted January 24, 2009 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Love & IQ - thanks for the brilliant information. Much appreciated. Cool.

Love - that composite sounds out of this world. Wow!

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Knowflake

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posted January 24, 2009 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks once again for your reply IQ

Ok. This is not every aspect, but the closet ones:

Juno: Trine Jupiter, sextile NN and conjunct Descendant

Union: trine Chiron and Eros, biQuintile Mars and Venus, oppose Isis and quincunx Osiris

Karma: squares Psyche and conjuncts Pluto. It also seems to be the focal point of another yod. Jupiter/South Node are sextile to Ascendant/Valentine and the point of the yod is Pluto/Karma in the 7th house.

It seems so specific!


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Knowflake

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posted January 24, 2009 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message
PA ~ Yeah there are a lot of really great things about it! It's certainly one of the most interesting composites I've experienced.
And besides that, we're crazy about each other. But not in a crazy way. It feels pretty healthy! Yay

I'm just not always sure how to interpret aspects like squares when it's Valentine or Union squaring another asteroid.

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posted January 25, 2009 10:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message
IQ,

"Saturn conj SN will reinforce that which holds you down. It is fated, and is designed to make you learn the lessons of several lifelines in one shot.

That is interesting. My parents share this conjunction. My mother`s Saturn is conjunct my father`s SN (2° orb).
They have been married for 35 years now.
Which seems to be surprising given the Saturn-SN conjunction.
Or could it be - in this case- that they need that long time (maybe even their whole life) to learn the lesson that comes with it?

I must add that they have been pretty happy (there are ups and downs of course) and are still very much in love with each other and are partners as well as lovers and friends.

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posted January 25, 2009 01:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Saturn conj SN is also a fated match. When a couple learns the lesson by focusing on the opposite [North Node], they automatically find happiness in each other.

Asc conj NN is a signal to pursue the relationship seriously. Much good and happiness can come out of it.

<<SN conjunct moon would be emotional past life or sacrifice?>>
Sometimes it can even hint that there was a maternal relationship in the past life.

<<and SN conjunct jupiter would be a beneficial pas life? >>
Yes, or even teacher-student relationship.

How to interpret squares for Valentine?
Triggering energy. "I hate you" and "I love you" are exactly the same thing. Love with more pretense of hate is how I think of a Valentine square.

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posted January 25, 2009 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
neptune conjuct MC may also mean that people will not know what is exactly going on between the two of you....they may see an overly romanticized picture of you...or may view you as an ideal devoted couple

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posted January 25, 2009 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
iqhunk

what abt valentine opposite mars or venus in synastry?

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posted January 25, 2009 05:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message
IQ,

"Saturn conj SN is also a fated match."
I have always seen that conjunction as a hint, that two people may have collected some heavy karma in a past life, maybe been doing each other wrong.
What do you think of this?

" When a couple learns the lesson by focusing on the opposite [North Node], they automatically find happiness in each other."
That`s something I didn`t know! But it makes sense.
In the case of my parents my mum`s Jupiter is conjunct my Dad`s NN and my Dad`s Psyche conjuncts her NN. Maybe that helped them to find a good balance.


"<<SN conjunct moon would be emotional past life or sacrifice?>>
Sometimes it can even hint that there was a maternal relationship in the past life."
Who would have been the mother? The Moon-person?

"How to interpret squares for Valentine?
Triggering energy. "I hate you" and "I love you" are exactly the same thing. Love with more pretense of hate is how I think of a Valentine square."
So, it would trigger a "Love-hate"-kind of interaction or feeling?


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posted January 26, 2009 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message
<<<<<<How to interpret squares for Valentine?
Triggering energy. "I hate you" and "I love you" are exactly the same thing. Love with more pretense of hate is how I think of a Valentine square.>>>>>>>>

Hmmmm. Well in synastry, we have Valentine square Ascendant double whammy, 0 degrees both ways. And of course in the composite we have Valentine conjunct Ascendant, exact.

Does this mean that a love of the other's self and/or physical appearance might technically turn to hate given the synastry aspects?


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posted January 26, 2009 08:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message
DD, your parent's charts would be a phenomenal case study for the correct application of synastry! The Moon person is considered to play the maternal role in past lifelines.

Valentine opp Mars or Venus is a very strong love trigger. Her Valentine aspect his Venus or His Valentine aspect her Mars would be very powerful.

Love,
It would be the opposite. Whatever causes strong reactions would in time lead to unbreakable bonds of love.

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posted January 26, 2009 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
So his valentine square his mars/psyche/union by 1 degree would also be very powerful? or are squares too much friction?

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Iqhunk
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posted January 26, 2009 09:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Nothing would ever get done without squares.
Trines, conjunctions etc are all like the finest cuts of meat. Oppositions are the spice and Squares are needed to cook the fine course meal i.e happy marriage.

[wife is making roast beef, am inspired
which reminds me, she and I have Asc square Asc and Saturn square Saturn in synastry.]

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posted January 26, 2009 09:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message
IQ,

I would like to look at my parents`synastry.

Which asteroids should I use?

Karma
Juno
Valentine
Union
Amor
Eros
Psyche
Isis
Osiris
Siva
Kaali


Too many? Or am I missing important ones?


And I guess the emphasis would be on Sun, Moon, Venus, mars, Saturn, Pluto, True Node, Chiron and ASC?
(plus the mentioned asteroids of course)

Would that be a start?

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posted January 26, 2009 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emma_duncan     Edit/Delete Message
thanks iqhunk

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