posted January 25, 2009 12:29 AM           

Here's my natal chart:

What do you guys think? I'm new to Astrology so I'm confuse how to interpret it. Am I doomed? Would the Cradle make Grand Cross even worse?

Notice that if my Saturn is quincunx to my Venus and Mars, it would make a Yod. If that's the case, is there a name for this symmetrical planetary configuration that involves a Yod, a Cradle and a Grand Cross?

I will appreciate any kind of help.

posted January 25, 2009 12:43 PM         

And thank you for posting perhaps the most intriguing chart ever, imo

Were you born in the Philippines? And of interest to me, why Juno only as an inclusion? Don't get me wrong about adding it, what I mean is why her alone?

posted January 25, 2009 12:56 PM         

No one is EVER doomed by an astrological chart. The natal chart is a map of potentials -- how you respond to those challenges and successes is up to you.

From Bill Herbst: http://www.billherbst.com/ ~

Human beings are not signs of the zodiac, and astrology neither reveals nor determines the quality of our consciousness. The expresson of our charts is largely a function of our maturity, rather than the other way around. Our species is chock full of human beings who are mired in seemingly permanent adolescence, no matter what their age or elevation in culture. In terms of spiritual development, you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink. Nonetheless, the water exists. We choose.

**The Truth About Astrology** (from “The Changing Sky” by Steven Forrest) ~

Astrology is humanity’s oldest and most precise mindmap. It cannot, however, accurately predict events. The planets hold half the cards; you hold the rest. Choices you make within the astrological environment determine what actually happens to you.

We are free. No rigid, fatalistic prediction can bind us. There is no astrological event so baleful that creativity, intelligence and honest self-appraisal cannot turn it to constructive uses – and there is no configuration so glorious that selfishness and laziness cannot sour it.

The purpose of modern predictive astrology is to help people make better choices, to clarify the nature of the psychological terrain through which they are passing, and to serve as their ally in the endless, unpredictable task of creating the future.

A good GC link:
http://www.indigoray.net/grandcross.html

Other LL GC threads:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014975.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/005396.html

Please have a look at this thread:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012497.html

posted January 25, 2009 01:09 PM         

Sometimes, once in a Blue Moon, you count it, but it's more than 7 degrees and that's just too much.

Other astrologers might say that it counts and it just might, on a windy day, but if I was looking at your chart, I would mention a very loose Grand Square only if through discussion we discovered it was working in your life.

Also, stressful aspects are not harbingers of doom. They suggest action, hard work and much needed lessons in life. Always remember that this is an earth school and it's not supposed to be easy the whole time so reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelaaaaaaaaaxxx.....

posted January 25, 2009 06:20 PM           

I do felt doomed. It is just that Neptune and Chiron (they are conjunct) has been making turbulent transits with my Moon (opposite), Mercury (square) and Saturn (square).

The Grand Square I was pertaining to was the one that involves my Saturn, ASC (not Jupiter), Mercury and Moon.

Node:
I can say I'm still a newbie, coz my interest in Astrology only started last year. And I was born in the Philippines. How did you know that?

You're right, I don't have the yod with Saturn, Venus and Mars. I asked the question what if I do have it, then all of the planets and the ASC will be all aspected. I'm very interested about this, because my ex-boyfriend's Sun is conjunct my Saturn and it quincunxed both my Venus and Mars therefore creating a yod.

Here's our interaspect table:

About adding Juno, I was primarily interested in synastry and since they don't use the asteroids much, I haven't pay much attention to them. I had been reading articles at the Magi Astrology website and they use Juno a lot, so as Chiron.

I have been reading about Vesta lately, though. And boy, when I added it on my natal chart, it formed two Grand Trine Kites almost forming a Star of David if only I have that one planet that would complete it. I read it symbolizes the family and the home to which we are devoted and commited, but Magi Astrology says something different though. They gave Vesta bad reputation.

Azalaksh:
Thanks, those are very uplifting. I know I have read those before especially the one with leading a horse to water, I just can't remember where.

Also, thanks for the links. So far, I have only checked indigoray.net and read this:

"When the Fixed Cross is triggered by transits or progressions, this Grand Cross of four planets react by digging their heels well into the dirt to resist any of the external energy that may change the status quo. When the Fixed Cross decides to take action, its action is much like a steamroller and anything in its path can be flattened. It’s hard to stop the action taken by this quad once organized and initiated."

As I have wrote above, I do have Neptune and Chiron transiting on my Grand Cross. I just wish it would be over (I hope it gets better from there), but then, it would take months or probably years because those two are very slow.

posted January 26, 2009 12:05 AM         

and I hear you about the transits, good will eventually come of it.