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Lara
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posted January 31, 2009 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
DD,

thought it best to start a thread instead of take-over Vesta's one

Well i have said to him on occasion that l have to end our 'buddy' arrangement cos basically l can't do it anymore due to wanting more out of it. He just ignores whatever he doesn't want to discuss. Very stubborn he is!
He won't ever let me give him up though... he will just contact me when the dust settles again.

Then he will say something like "i miss you" etc etc

The weird thing is, l can send him kisses and hearts on his Facebook wall and he doesn't delete them! So weird...

I don't understand why he has such a hold on me. I literally feel like l am unable to break away and i'm hoping he will dump me to give me the strength, which is so unlike me!

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Lara
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posted January 31, 2009 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
The other day he invited me skiing and l couldn't go. He asked me if we could stay with my Uncle and l said "if you were my boyfriend we could but you're not".
He said "you never asked me to be your boyfriend"... l was like what??

So l asked him "what would happen if l did?"
He didn't text me for a week and then ignored it lol

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alvarella777
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posted January 31, 2009 07:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Lara, theses sketches you're giving here do "ring a bell" in my mind ... because ... I have experienced some similar game playing, maybe. Unfortunately I don't know about the background of that story - don't know which thread your are alluding to. Can you post more info?

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darkdreamer
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posted January 31, 2009 07:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Hmm, that doesn`t sound too good to me, actually.

Either he don`t want to choose, or he is just using you for his personal gratification (sorry, if I am so blunt, I hope it doesn`t offend you).

Do you want to know what I think or shall I rather shut up now?

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Lara
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posted January 31, 2009 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
How do you mean "which thread?"

Sure..

brief history. He is the guy l met end of last July. He asked me to be his buddy and l stupidly said yes!

He's the one who once told me "my perfect woman is 'you without kids' which was ok cos we were only buddies"

I have tried to break up with him about 10 times. Each time he ignores it and then comes back a few weeks later.

I am unable to date anyone else because l find myself comparing how l feel with Andy (his name) to anyone else. I have even told him this!!

It's like i'm glued to him or something and l can't escape. It's really affecting my life now and l really need to move on.

I deleted him from my Facebook tonight cos l can't deal with it all, it's getting upsetting. I must have strong feelings for him.

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Lara
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posted January 31, 2009 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
sure, tell me DD

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Lara
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posted January 31, 2009 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
could his sun opp my sun/moon mp and his venus sq my venus/mars mp be causing me to feel like this?

Mybe it's simply an astrological thing that l can get beyond!

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darkdreamer
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posted January 31, 2009 08:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message
You deserve more than being a toy or even a sex-buddy.

Actually it makes me kinda upset that he is doing that to you. Or maybe I am misjudging the situation.

But he sounds pretty selfish to me, and I think you did a good thing when you deleted his name from your account.
Either he wants you, all of you (including your children), or not.

I can`t imagine that anything but a reliable stable relationship makes you happy.

But I also understand how it is to have strong feelings for someone you can never "have". It`s depressing and tormenting.
You will find the strength to move on.
But you have to really WANT to move on. Only then you can break the ties, I think.

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Lara
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posted January 31, 2009 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I do really want to move on. The guy l had dinner with on Thursday l really like.

I'm telling myself that my buddy is dead now and have deleted him off everything - email/phone.

You are right - l really don't do this type of relationship well and l don't want to.

Thanks DD for your honesty

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tikkun
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posted January 31, 2009 08:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I agree move on and never look back. Do it!

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tikkun
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posted January 31, 2009 08:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message
We all think we're going to live forever. If it isn't right ,move on. Do it now. You don;t have any time. I don;t care how young you may be. Move on now.The rioght person may be around the bend. jump now. No more waiting for anyone. no more self deception.Now id thwe time .Jump sweetness and have faith. Life will save you!
I promise!~

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Lara
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posted January 31, 2009 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I know Tikkun, and l agree 100%
I have had this attitude my whole life... this guy has a hold on me though and maybe it's that he is unattainable!

I am moving on - l have to get him out of my mind as l am missing all these opportunities in my life!

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alvarella777
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posted January 31, 2009 08:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Lara - it is late over here, I must go to bed soon, but I'll be back on this soon.

Just a certain coincidence: I had experienced a love affair loaded with (mean) "mindgames" as well - certainly a different story, all in all - but that's why I mentioned that "bell ringing in my mind" thing. And now dig this: This Ex-lover just contacted me via Facebook as well! About 3 weeks ago. Before that there were 9 months without any direct contact between us (we had split in April - it was me then who had said "I won't take these psycho-games anymore" - since then he kinda had "stalked" me via the internet). Anyway: It went a bit to and thro now via Facebook again - but luckily enough time had passed since our (hurtful) break-up - I am so fed up with his tactics - and I also DELETED him from my account there, just last wednesday. I just didn't feel comfortable with him being able to have any insight into my actual private life anymore. He was just too selfish, mean, had "used" me in a way - I kinda was delighted by these games, I must admit. I am not "innocent", but was willing to "play along" for a while ... difficult to explain. But: Such a thing is NO GOOD - just draining.

So ... somehow we have something in common here in a way;-) Wish you strength that you stay away from him. There my be some flashbacks haunting you - but it IS possible to draw that line. You did the right thing.

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augentier
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posted January 31, 2009 09:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Just a certain coincidence: I had experienced a love affair loaded with (mean) "mindgames" as well - certainly a different story, all in all - but that's why I mentioned that "bell ringing in my mind" thing. And now dig this: This Ex-lover just contacted me via Facebook as well! About 3 weeks ago. Before that there were 9 months without any direct contact between us (we had split in April - it was me then who had said "I won't take these psycho-games anymore" - since then he kinda had "stalked" me via the internet). Anyway: It went a bit to and thro now via Facebook again - but luckily enough time had passed since our (hurtful) break-up - I am so fed up with his tactics - and I also DELETED him from my account there, just last wednesday. I just didn't feel comfortable with him being able to have any insight into my actual private life anymore. He was just too selfish, mean, had "used" me in a way - I kinda was delighted by these games, I must admit. I am not "innocent", but was willing to "play along" for a while ... difficult to explain. But: Such a thing is NO GOOD - just draining.

wow..i went thru/am going thru this same situation and yes, within the past two weeks he had come back into contact with me wanting to get together and acting much more affectionate and loving this time around..but now he's at the ignoring game again. wtf? mercury retrograde anyone?

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alvarella777
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posted January 31, 2009 09:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Mercury retrograde: YES! I believe that there must be something about that!

Just because: During the last Mercury rx-phase (in Octobre) it was ME who felt such a strong urge to contact him (my Ex-BF) again ... I almost did it! Despite the nasty things that had happened 6 months before... Luckily I was able to talk about that urge over here (and with my real life friends of course) - and people warned me: This is just a sort of "flashback effect". After all ... I behaved! And then, a few weeks later, when Mercury went "forward" again, I felt SUCH relief that I had NOT given in to my temporary need to "speak to him" again.

I bet that this time ... it might be my EX who has experienced that urge ... to "clarify" some things, maybe??? And that this might have been the reason for his Facebook-approach. But, after all: What is a contact via Facebook??? This is so ridiculous - when you had something real before! I strongly felt that this is a lukewarm thing, not "honest" in a way. His approach didn't convince me.

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vesta-sister
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posted February 01, 2009 01:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Lara, not to " take over " your thread

But as we discussing earlier and now unable to break away!

I looked at my chart with the guy and found

His nessus exactly conjunct my SN with my
lachesis ( fate)
My nessus exactly opp his vertex
He has my name in his chart opp his vertex on my nessus.

in the other thread Tigerlily posted some info about nessus and those were some of the things I experienced.

The shock, jolt - transformation, ghosts, emotional pain ect...

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koiflower
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posted February 01, 2009 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
I've started thinking about Nessus conjunct the Nodes, vesta-sister. 'Jolt' and 'Transformation' seem to be good descriptive words to start with.

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vesta-sister
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posted February 01, 2009 02:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Kioflower,
In the nessus thread " where I will move this conversation to" I read that nessus is karmic. I guess the nodes would make sense.

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Lara
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posted February 01, 2009 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
No Nessus in our chart Vesta.

I think i've found why l can't let go...

My sun/moon trine his karma EXACT
My venus/mars square his venus EXACT
His sun/moon opp my sun EXACT
His sun/moon square my AC EXACT
His sun/moon mp conjunct my juno/karma EXACT

Look at the karma links... grrrr
I guess trines to mp's maybe don't count

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posted February 01, 2009 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lara, I'm sorry to hear about your current situation with this guy! I hope you don't mind me saying, but it sounds a bit like he's stringing you along...keeping you on the rope as a backup, but will never truly make a commitment. I've experienced this first hand, and it doesn't feel very good.

You deserve so much better than him! I know it can be hard cause just when you start to forget him, you'll get a txt message or call wanting to see you. But you have to make it clear that you do not want to hear from him at all anymore..then block all his calls and messages. Rip off the bandaid quickly.

Whatever happened to the hot guy with the guns? I would think if anyone can help you forget this guy, it would be him!

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Lara
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posted February 01, 2009 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Hey gemgemgem

yeah, i had a lesson to learn with that guy which is why l let him string me along a bit... of course l would also phone him and demand him
I have cut him out of everything now and hope that works!

The guy with the gun l met last Thursday and he's really polite and sweet... we had a really lovely dinner and we are planning to meet up soon. He's a kind, gentle guy too which is good for me

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posted February 01, 2009 12:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message
There is an additional reason for the hold, besides the karmic links.
His electromagnetic signature is embedded in your Aura because of the sexual links.
They will manifest as psychic cords from his Etheric Body to yours.
These need to be cleansed and relased to your Higher Self. Infact, these have to cleansed for every relationship you have had. I will email some notes to you.

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Lara
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posted February 01, 2009 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks so much IQ


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GemGemGem
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posted February 01, 2009 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
IQ, can you post those notes on a thread. I would love to know how to cleanse psychic chords from past relationships.

Lara, I'm so happy that this new guy turned out to be sweet and gentle! I hope all goes well with him. Keep us updated!

From what IQHunk says, it looks like you have some pretty intense connections with this past guy. I hope the cleansing works for you.

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posted February 01, 2009 01:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message
IQHunk i would love to know how to cut the cord as well. i need to.

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